Re: [hugin-ptx] Control point detecthion problems with 2015.0.0?

2015-10-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 30 October 2015 at 22:38:26 -1000, David W. Jones wrote:
> On 10/30/2015 09:09 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> I've just upgraded from 2012.0.0 to 2015.0.0, and I'm having
>> unexpected difficulties: the control point detectors "don't work".
>>
>> My understanding is that I should now use the fast preview window to
>> access the Assistant tab.  Fine, add the images, and it goes off,
>> tries to align, and comes back with a message that it has not found
>> any control points, and that I should create control points using the
>> Control Points tab.  But there's no way to do that!  I assume this
>> should refer to the Photos tab.  So I go there and try again.  Both
>> CPFind and Panomatic find good control points, but the distances are
>> in the order of 700 or so: all the images are on top of each other.
>>
>> While investigating this problem, I've come across a number of things
>> that are not the reason:
>>
>> - This happens in the same way with 2013.0.0, so it's not a new
>>   problem.
>> - This happens under both Microsoft and FreeBSD, so it's not an OS
>>   problem.
>> - It happens with almost all images I have tried, so it's not a lens
>>   or camera problem.
>>
>> This is something so basic that I'm completely baffled.  Any ideas?
>>
>> I can provide sample images if anybody cares, but until proof of the
>> contrary, I'm assuming that I'm making some basic blunder.
>
> Hmm, after you upgraded, did you go to File > Preferences > Control
> Point Detectors and click on Load Defaults? IIRC, that's the usual
> recommendation.

No.  Good point.  In any case, I blew away ~/.hugin, and it recreated
it.  But it still didn't work correctly.  In the end I created a
completely new home directory (simpler than it sounds, since this is a
test box), and things were much better.  It seems that configuration
information is stored elsewhere as well, though I couldn't see where
from running ktrace.

The current situation is that I can stitch normal panoramas, including
the one in my example.  About the only remaining surprise in this area
is that when I load the images with the Assistant, it loads the images
but doesn't try to align them.  Is that expected behaviour?

On Saturday, 31 October 2015 at  1:51:25 -0700, T. Modes wrote:
>
> Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 08:10:01 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:
>>
>> My understanding is that I should now use the fast preview window to
>> access the Assistant tab.  Fine, add the images, and it goes off,
>> tries to align, and comes back with a message that it has not found
>> any control points, and that I should create control points using the
>> Control Points tab.  But there's no way to do that!  I assume this
>> should refer to the Photos tab.
>
> It refers to the control points tab in the panorama editor. I
> changed the text.

I spent some time looking for the panorama editor.  It doesn't have
that text on the title bar in FreeBSD, though I see that it does on
Microsoft.

> When you can add control points with cpfind or panomatic this part
> is okay.  So we have to find why the assistant is not working.  Go
> to preferences, check "copy log messages to clipboard" on tab
> "General".  Now try again. When the error appears, please copy the
> log from the clipboard. Maybe this gives us some hints what's going
> wrong.
>
> Go to preferences, check "copy log messages to clipboard" on tab
> "General".  Now try again. When the error appears, please copy the
> log from the clipboard.

This is under X.  What do you mean by "clipboard"?  I did that, but
nothing appears in the cut buffer.

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[hugin-ptx] Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

2015-10-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
While investigating problems that I will report in a while, I
installed 2015.0.0 on a Microsoft 7 machine.  I then accessed it via
rdesktop, my usual way of interaction with that machine, and Hugin
didn't like that: it disabled the fast panorama window.

OK, I can understand that.  But how do I reenable it?  I can't find a
menu option, and "load defaults" doesn't help.

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[hugin-ptx] Control point detecthion problems with 2015.0.0?

2015-10-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
I've just upgraded from 2012.0.0 to 2015.0.0, and I'm having
unexpected difficulties: the control point detectors "don't work".

My understanding is that I should now use the fast preview window to
access the Assistant tab.  Fine, add the images, and it goes off,
tries to align, and comes back with a message that it has not found
any control points, and that I should create control points using the
Control Points tab.  But there's no way to do that!  I assume this
should refer to the Photos tab.  So I go there and try again.  Both
CPFind and Panomatic find good control points, but the distances are
in the order of 700 or so: all the images are on top of each other.

While investigating this problem, I've come across a number of things
that are not the reason:

- This happens in the same way with 2013.0.0, so it's not a new
  problem.
- This happens under both Microsoft and FreeBSD, so it's not an OS
  problem.
- It happens with almost all images I have tried, so it's not a lens
  or camera problem.

This is something so basic that I'm completely baffled.  Any ideas?

I can provide sample images if anybody cares, but until proof of the
contrary, I'm assuming that I'm making some basic blunder.

Greg
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[hugin-ptx] Re: tiff package error

2015-10-31 Thread T. Modes


Am Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015 07:51:43 UTC+1 schrieb Brandon:
>
> When I go to work with libpano-hg it does not find the tiff paths 
> correctly.(probably my problem, but the tiff stuff did compile with no 
> errors.) What should the correct entry for TIFF_LIBRARIES_RELEASE and 
> TIFF_LIBRARY_RELEASE look like? 
>

/libtiff/libtiff_i.lib 

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Problems building 2005.0.0

2015-10-31 Thread T. Modes


Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 06:05:58 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:
>
>
> I still don't understand what is going on here.  I've read the name 
> lookup rules at 
> http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/unqualified_lookup , and I'm 
> still not 100% convinced I understand them.  In any case, it seems 
> that the templates in v1/mutex get looked at before the locally 
> defined lock.  Maybe there's some cast that can be used to force it to 
> look at the definition, but changing the name works as well.  I'm 
> attaching patches. 
>

The cluprit is probably "using namespace std;" so that all functions in std 
namespace can be used without adding "std::"
This is already fixed in default branch.

>
> Another issue I had was in 
> src/hugin1/icpfind/AutoCtrlPointCreator.cpp.  It has conditional code 
> for GCC, but it seems that clang defines __GNUC__ anyway.  I've made 
> this conditional on __FreeBSD__, though this is probably not the right 
> way to go. 
>

Thanks for patch. It is now fixed in default branch. 

>
> clang finds many causes for warnings while building Hugin.  I'd like 
> to remove the more obvious ones (like using the obsolete 'register' 
> keyword), but I don't want to do it every time.  If I submit patches, 
> will they be incorporated into the tree? 
>

Yes. But please submit patches against default branch and not against 
2015.0.
 

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

2015-10-31 Thread T. Modes


Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 07:57:33 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:
>
> OK, I can understand that.  But how do I reenable it?  I can't find a 
> menu option, and "load defaults" doesn't help. 
>

Start Hugin with pressed ctrl key. 

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Control point detecthion problems with 2015.0.0?

2015-10-31 Thread T. Modes


Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 08:10:01 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:
>
>
> My understanding is that I should now use the fast preview window to 
> access the Assistant tab.  Fine, add the images, and it goes off, 
> tries to align, and comes back with a message that it has not found 
> any control points, and that I should create control points using the 
> Control Points tab.  But there's no way to do that!  I assume this 
> should refer to the Photos tab. 


It refers to the control points tab in the panorama editor. I changed the 
text.
 

>  So I go there and try again.  Both 
> CPFind and Panomatic find good control points, but the distances are 
> in the order of 700 or so: all the images are on top of each other. 
>

That's expected behaviour when you only created control points. After 
create control points you need to optimize the positions to get the current 
error distance.
The assistant does this automatically.

When you can add control points with cpfind or panomatic this part is okay. 
So we have to find why the assistant is not working.
Go to preferences, check "copy log messages to clipboard" on tab "General".
Now try again. When the error appears, please copy the log from the 
clipboard. Maybe this gives us some hints what's going wrong.

 
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Control point detecthion problems with 2015.0.0?

2015-10-31 Thread David W. Jones

On 10/30/2015 09:09 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

I've just upgraded from 2012.0.0 to 2015.0.0, and I'm having
unexpected difficulties: the control point detectors "don't work".

My understanding is that I should now use the fast preview window to
access the Assistant tab.  Fine, add the images, and it goes off,
tries to align, and comes back with a message that it has not found
any control points, and that I should create control points using the
Control Points tab.  But there's no way to do that!  I assume this
should refer to the Photos tab.  So I go there and try again.  Both
CPFind and Panomatic find good control points, but the distances are
in the order of 700 or so: all the images are on top of each other.

While investigating this problem, I've come across a number of things
that are not the reason:

- This happens in the same way with 2013.0.0, so it's not a new
   problem.
- This happens under both Microsoft and FreeBSD, so it's not an OS
   problem.
- It happens with almost all images I have tried, so it's not a lens
   or camera problem.

This is something so basic that I'm completely baffled.  Any ideas?

I can provide sample images if anybody cares, but until proof of the
contrary, I'm assuming that I'm making some basic blunder.

Greg


Hmm, after you upgraded, did you go to File > Preferences > Control 
Point Detectors and click on Load Defaults? IIRC, that's the usual 
recommendation.


I've been using 2015.0.0 on Aptosid (Debian Sid) for quite a while now, 
and the few times it failed to find control points is usually when I've 
cleverly shot one frame very focused and the next frame very unfocused.


The Control points tab isn't in the Fast Preview Window, it's in the 
first Hugin window. I have mine set for the Expert interface, I don't 
remember if both of the non-expert interfaces show that tab, but I'd 
expect them to.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

2015-10-31 Thread Terry Duell

Hello Greg,

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 09:31:25 +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey  
<groog...@gmail.com> wrote:


[snip]



Reinstall.  This time it runs and produces a completely broken
panorama.  The test images I'm using here are at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/tmp/20151031/, and 00---07.pto is the PTO
file generated by the Microsoft version.



I grabbed the first two images and they are handled OK here  
(hugin-2015.1.0, Fedora)...control points found OK and aligned OK.

So it looks like your MS version is broken.
The PTO uses different image filenames to those you posted, but that's a  
minor issue and probably unrelated.

As it looks like an MS issue I'm not any help I'm afraid.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

2015-10-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 31 October 2015 at  1:32:22 -0700, T. Modes wrote:
>
> Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 07:57:33 UTC+1 schrieb Groogle:
>>
>> OK, I can understand that.  But how do I reenable it?  I can't find
>> a menu option, and "load defaults" doesn't help.
>
> Start Hugin with pressed ctrl key.

OK, I'm a Microsoft novice, but how do I start it?  I've tried holding
down the Ctrl key and clicking on the icon on the root window, and
also from the start menu.  In each case Hugin starts, but the fast
panorama preview is still disabled.

So I removed Hugin from the machine (using Control Panel/Programs and
Features and selecting "clean registry settings") and reinstalled from
sourceforge.  I couldn't get it to work at all!  When selecting files
it didn't wait for me to click on "Open" and loaded only a single
file.  When I tried again, it crashed, repeatedly.  It's interesting
to note that although I cleaned registry settings, it remembered the
path to my images.

Reinstall.  This time it runs and produces a completely broken
panorama.  The test images I'm using here are at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/tmp/20151031/, and 00---07.pto is the PTO
file generated by the Microsoft version.

I'll add other files as I answer the other messages.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

2015-10-31 Thread 'Brandon' via hugin and other free panoramic software
I did not download and test the images with the pto. Just looking at the 
pto, it looks like there are no control points in it yet. In what way is it 
broken? I do note that most of the images have different yaw settings. Did 
you move them around, apply a preset to them or did hugin do that? If so at 
what point did hugin do it?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

2015-10-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 31 October 2015 at 15:42:12 -0700, Hugin developers list wrote:
> I did not download and test the images with the pto. Just looking at
> the pto, it looks like there are no control points in it yet. In
> what way is it broken? I do note that most of the images have
> different yaw settings. Did you move them around, apply a preset to
> them or did hugin do that? If so at what point did hugin do it?

This is the breakage with Microsoft, right?  The images were spread
randomly across the fast panorama preview window.  What I did:

- Load files with the Assistant.
- Let it do its thing.

The result is at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/Day/20151101/Microsoft-preview.png .  I've
also put the pto file there as Microsoft.pto , and there are also
comparison files 2012-preview.png and 2012.pto showing what the 2012
version of Hugin does under FreeBSD.

I'm still looking at the 2015 issues.  Watch this space.

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