Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Stereo image alignment
Maybe I read too much into Vladimir's recommendation: https://wiki.panotools.org/Talk:Align_image_stack *->* http://vndlinuxphoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/stereo-image-alignment-in-hugin.html *->* align_image_stack -p aligned.pto -a aligned -m -i -P -C *right.jpg left.jpg* He names two files and puts them in a specific order - right then left, rather than the more logical left then right, so I assumed that's what you had to do. Checking the documentation I now see that the -S, _A and -P options don't mention files, so I assume the answer is probably the last one of those I suggested in my previous post - it makes no assumptions about L and R and just matches them all together. The order could be modifed by the options --align-to-first and/or --use-given-order On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 9:57:42 PM UTC+1 Chris wrote: > Yes, I understood that, but this thread is about stereo image alignment. > You need 2 images for that, so how does it pick 2 out of for example 10 > images? Or does it assume the first one in order is the left-hand image and > then treat all the others as right-hand ones and match them to it? Or does > it make no assumptions about L and R and just match them all together? > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 8:50:21 PM UTC+1 bruno...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, 20:33 Chris wrote: >> >>> OK. It wouldn't have occurred to me do this because there could be ten >>> files in the "glob". Would it just take the first 2, and assume that the >>> first one was the right-hand image and the second the left-hand? >> >> >> align_image_stack will align as many images as you like. It was >> originally devised for creating HDR images from bracketed exposure stacks, >> which typically have five or more photos. >> >> -- >> Bruno >> > -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/b30fcb73-cce3-4139-9c16-baec394d752dn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Purpose of this list
[image: davi...@gmail.com's profile photo] davi...@gmail.com Thank you for your careful reading of my posts, your understanding of the reason behind my questions and your support. Chris On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:15:02 AM UTC+1 davi...@gmail.com wrote: > Le 18/04/2024 à 09:19, Greg 'groggy' Lehey a écrit : > > On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 at 23:39:07 -0700, Chris wrote: > > T.Modes, Wie du sicher weißt, bedeutet das deutsche Wort "Gift" etwas ganz > anderes als das englische Wort "gift" :). > Vielleicht sind die Worte "impliziert" und "implies" falsche Freunde - sie > haben etwas unterschiedliche Bedeutungen. > > (As I am sure you are aware, the German word "Gift" means something quite > different to the English word "gift" :). > Perhaps the words "impliziert" and "implies" are false friends - they have > rather different meanings.) > On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 7:33:51 AM UTC+1 Chris wrote: > > > Chris, I've seen a lot of messages from you. This one seems to be the > second one with identical content. And most of them seem to have > nothing to do with the software. > > If you feel that you have to attack T.Modes, please do it privately. > > > Greg, > > Chris has repeatedly stated that his questions and remarks were about the > documentation. While I agree they don't have anything to do with the > coding, they do have to do with the software because documentation IMO > should be considered as being part of the software. If a documentation > tells me something (I am not speaking of the Hugin documentation here) and > the software does something else, then this is a bug. I agree this would be > a documentation bug, not a coding bug, but it would still be a bug. Or > maybe the word "bug" is not appropriate here. Anyhow documentation issues > should be addressed just like coding bugs should be fixed. > > About your second paragraph: I don't feel that Chris has attacked Thomas. > I saw Chris insisting on documentation issues. It happens that Thomas was > almost the only one to answer, but I did not feel anything personal in > Chris' mails. > > I am glad that someone is checking the exact formulation of the > documentation. I don't know who wrote the documentation (although I would > not be surprised if it was Thomas), but I know that developers are seldom > good documentation writers. I am a software developer, I have tried to > write documentation and I don't think I ever achieved something which was > simultaneously short enough, clear enough and unambiguous. It is very > difficult for a developer to realize that people could understand what he > wrote differently from what he meant. It is even more difficult for him to > find all the sentences where such gap could exist. > > I know that all the documentation was written by volunteers doing it on > their free time (just like the code). Improving the documentation takes > time, and the resources are limited. I guess that Thomas enjoys much more > coding than writing documentation (I do!). > > I enjoyed this discussion up to now because it has taught me a few things > about English. And I would appreciate improving the documentation in this > way because I am always wary about what I am understanding from a > documentation written by someone whose native language is probably not > English, even more so because it is not mine either. > > > > -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/aa65b98a-9993-4539-86a2-4c316ee90439n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Stereo image alignment
Yes, I understood that, but this thread is about stereo image alignment. You need 2 images for that, so how does it pick 2 out of for example 10 images? Or does it assume the first one in order is the left-hand image and then treat all the others as right-hand ones and match them to it? Or does it make no assumptions about L and R and just match them all together? On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 8:50:21 PM UTC+1 bruno...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, 20:33 Chris wrote: > >> OK. It wouldn't have occurred to me do this because there could be ten >> files in the "glob". Would it just take the first 2, and assume that the >> first one was the right-hand image and the second the left-hand? > > > align_image_stack will align as many images as you like. It was originally > devised for creating HDR images from bracketed exposure stacks, which > typically have five or more photos. > > -- > Bruno > -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/674044d9-5062-43db-a7db-9a58f7a9300cn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Purpose of this list
Le 18/04/2024 à 09:19, Greg 'groggy' Lehey a écrit : On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 at 23:39:07 -0700, Chris wrote: T.Modes, Wie du sicher weißt, bedeutet das deutsche Wort "Gift" etwas ganz anderes als das englische Wort "gift" :). Vielleicht sind die Worte "impliziert" und "implies" falsche Freunde - sie haben etwas unterschiedliche Bedeutungen. (As I am sure you are aware, the German word "Gift" means something quite different to the English word "gift" :). Perhaps the words "impliziert" and "implies" are false friends - they have rather different meanings.) On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 7:33:51 AM UTC+1 Chris wrote: Chris, I've seen a lot of messages from you. This one seems to be the second one with identical content. And most of them seem to have nothing to do with the software. If you feel that you have to attack T.Modes, please do it privately. Greg, Chris has repeatedly stated that his questions and remarks were about the documentation. While I agree they don't have anything to do with the coding, they do have to do with the software because documentation IMO should be considered as being part of the software. If a documentation tells me something (I am not speaking of the Hugin documentation here) and the software does something else, then this is a bug. I agree this would be a documentation bug, not a coding bug, but it would still be a bug. Or maybe the word "bug" is not appropriate here. Anyhow documentation issues should be addressed just like coding bugs should be fixed. About your second paragraph: I don't feel that Chris has attacked Thomas. I saw Chris insisting on documentation issues. It happens that Thomas was almost the only one to answer, but I did not feel anything personal in Chris' mails. I am glad that someone is checking the exact formulation of the documentation. I don't know who wrote the documentation (although I would not be surprised if it was Thomas), but I know that developers are seldom good documentation writers. I am a software developer, I have tried to write documentation and I don't think I ever achieved something which was simultaneously short enough, clear enough and unambiguous. It is very difficult for a developer to realize that people could understand what he wrote differently from what he meant. It is even more difficult for him to find all the sentences where such gap could exist. I know that all the documentation was written by volunteers doing it on their free time (just like the code). Improving the documentation takes time, and the resources are limited. I guess that Thomas enjoys much more coding than writing documentation (I do!). I enjoyed this discussion up to now because it has taught me a few things about English. And I would appreciate improving the documentation in this way because I am always wary about what I am understanding from a documentation written by someone whose native language is probably not English, even more so because it is not mine either. -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/312e2b1c-fa56-492f-8617-a77e6664780d%40gmail.com.
[hugin-ptx] Purpose of this list (was: align_image_stack parameters)
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 at 23:39:07 -0700, Chris wrote: > T.Modes, Wie du sicher weißt, bedeutet das deutsche Wort "Gift" etwas ganz > anderes als das englische Wort "gift" :). > Vielleicht sind die Worte "impliziert" und "implies" falsche Freunde - sie > haben etwas unterschiedliche Bedeutungen. > > (As I am sure you are aware, the German word "Gift" means something quite > different to the English word "gift" :). > Perhaps the words "impliziert" and "implies" are false friends - they have > rather different meanings.) > On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 7:33:51 AM UTC+1 Chris wrote: Chris, I've seen a lot of messages from you. This one seems to be the second one with identical content. And most of them seem to have nothing to do with the software. If you feel that you have to attack T.Modes, please do it privately. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger groog...@gmail.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/ZiDJiKyiuTFmlRcd%40hydra.lemis.com. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
