Re: [hugin-ptx] 360 degree panorama *very* distorted

2012-08-20 Thread Marcus Sundman
On Monday, August 20, 2012 3:13:18 AM UTC+3, Luís Henrique Camargo Quiroz 
wrote:

   Hi Marcus!

   Have you checked if the first and last images have control points 
 linking them togheter?


Yes.
 

   Many times I do my first optimization of yaw and pitch only, leaving 
 roll=0, perhaps this could help you; further optimizations can/should 
 consider roll, of course, but your values seen fine 


I did that. First only yaw for all except my position anchor image, then 
only pitch, then both yaw and pitch, then yaw, pitch and roll. Then I 
deselect yaw, pitch and roll when I optimize the other values, then 
deselect the other values and re-optimize yaw, pitch and roll, etc.
 

 HAHA! please, turn off the translations X, Y and Z, they should be used 
 only for flat images, aka mosaics.


Why? I thought they were for if I move the location of the camera between 
taking the pictures, which I indeed did (although not by very much in 
relation to the distance of what I took pictures of).

Anyway, doing the whole optimization from scratch for the fourth time, now 
leaving x, y and z zeroed, seemed to have fixed it.

Cheers,
Marcus

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Re: [hugin-ptx] 360 degree panorama *very* distorted

2012-08-20 Thread Marcus Sundman
On Monday, August 20, 2012 7:25:58 AM UTC+3, Groogle wrote:

 On Sunday, 19 August 2012 at 15:57:27 -0700, Marcus Sundman wrote: 
  Hi, 
  
  This is probably something simple, but I really can't figure out what 
 I'm 
  doing wrong. 
  In hugin I have 15 images connected using 421 control points (mean error 
  0.2px, max 2.4). 
  After the optimization the images range from yaw=-133.7 to yaw=173.4. 
  That's ~307 degrees, but why not 360? 

 It's difficult to say without knowing how you took these images.  The 
 yaw values in the image tab suggest that you did not space them 
 equally.  That could be part of the bug, of course.

 
They are not spaced equally. Some are even completely on top of each other 
(but with different exposure, for exposure fusion).

Clearly something has gone wrong with the control point detection, 
 something that the detector doesn't recognize.  Try looking at the 
 control point window to see the control points between adjacent images 
 (i.e. start with images 0 and 1, then move on until you get to the end 
 (14 and 0).

 
Nope. Before I even started to optimize things I went through *all* control 
points for all 120 combinations of image pairs (including pairs of the 
same image). Some bad points I removed, some I refined, and then I also 
added some points.

 The final image becomes extremely distorted. After changing the field of 
  view to 360x80 the stiching produces this: 
  ... 

 What does the fast panorama preview look like before and after?


It looked the same before, just a smaller part of the image.

Anyway, doing the optimizations a fourth time from scratch fixed it for me. 
I don't know what the problem was but now it's gone. :)

Cheers,
Marcus

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[hugin-ptx] 360 degree panorama *very* distorted

2012-08-19 Thread Marcus Sundman
Hi,

This is probably something simple, but I really can't figure out what I'm 
doing wrong.
In hugin I have 15 images connected using 421 control points (mean error 
0.2px, max 2.4).
After the optimization the images range from yaw=-133.7 to yaw=173.4. 
That's ~307 degrees, but why not 360?
307 degrees is close, but now when I press Calculate Field of View on the 
Stitcher tab it gives 180x76 which is nowhere close to 360 degrees 
horizontally.
The final image becomes extremely distorted. After changing the field of 
view to 360x80 the stiching produces this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kANvDRS4djc/UDFuiSY4NAI/ACY/ZHbUS-XaFcc/s1600/DienteDeInca_blended_fused.png
This is supposed to be a landscape, but is so distorted you can't even see 
that.

The image list looks like this:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jPTWT3bvgHk/UDFuqXKOfUI/ACg/TYIq-RCOD9E/s1600/image-list.png
Any ideas?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] 360 degree panorama *very* distorted

2012-08-19 Thread Luís Henrique Camargo Quiroz
  Hi Marcus!

  Have you checked if the first and last images have control points
linking them togheter?
  Once I had the same problem of not getting 360 deg field of view, in a
row of pictures, using automatic control points. But I can´t recall my pano
being so distorted as yours. Many times I do my first optimization of yaw
and pitch only, leaving roll=0, perhaps this could help you; further
optimizations can/should consider roll, of course, but your values seen
fine  HAHA! please, turn off the translations X, Y and Z, they should
be used only for flat images, aka mosaics.

   Good luck!

   Luís Henrique

2012/8/19 Marcus Sundman sundman.mar...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 This is probably something simple, but I really can't figure out what I'm
 doing wrong.
 In hugin I have 15 images connected using 421 control points (mean error
 0.2px, max 2.4).
 After the optimization the images range from yaw=-133.7 to yaw=173.4.
 That's ~307 degrees, but why not 360?
 307 degrees is close, but now when I press Calculate Field of View on
 the Stitcher tab it gives 180x76 which is nowhere close to 360 degrees
 horizontally.
 The final image becomes extremely distorted. After changing the field of
 view to 360x80 the stiching produces this:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kANvDRS4djc/UDFuiSY4NAI/ACY/ZHbUS-XaFcc/s1600/DienteDeInca_blended_fused.png
 This is supposed to be a landscape, but is so distorted you can't even see
 that.

 The image list looks like this:


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jPTWT3bvgHk/UDFuqXKOfUI/ACg/TYIq-RCOD9E/s1600/image-list.png
 Any ideas?





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Re: [hugin-ptx] 360 degree panorama *very* distorted

2012-08-19 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 19 August 2012 at 15:57:27 -0700, Marcus Sundman wrote:
 Hi,

 This is probably something simple, but I really can't figure out what I'm
 doing wrong.
 In hugin I have 15 images connected using 421 control points (mean error
 0.2px, max 2.4).
 After the optimization the images range from yaw=-133.7 to yaw=173.4.
 That's ~307 degrees, but why not 360?

It's difficult to say without knowing how you took these images.  The
yaw values in the image tab suggest that you did not space them
equally.  That could be part of the bug, of course.

Clearly something has gone wrong with the control point detection,
something that the detector doesn't recognize.  Try looking at the
control point window to see the control points between adjacent images
(i.e. start with images 0 and 1, then move on until you get to the end
(14 and 0).

 The final image becomes extremely distorted. After changing the field of
 view to 360x80 the stiching produces this:
 ...

What does the fast panorama preview look like before and after?

You might like to take a look at a related problem I had recently:
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-aug2012.php?topics=p#D-20120813-000547
and
http://.lemis.com/grog/diary-aug2012.php?topics=p#D-20120814-235244
(they're both on the same page, so you can just page down from the
first).  I don't mention it there, but these images were all taken
with an 18 mm equivalent wide-angle lens spaced at 45 degrees.

Greg
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