Re: [hugin-ptx] Help My Skies

2012-06-11 Thread Calvin McDonald
Carlos:

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.  Your tips will help me out.

I do play with masking a bit but I wouldn't call it methodical at all.  I 
kind of do a hit-and-miss approach as I have little skill at it.  
Occasionally I generate improvement with masks but usually not.  I haven't 
tried using other images.  I'll give that a try.  My PS skills improve with 
every pano I make.  However, I have a long way to go to fully use the 
capability of the tool.  Thanks for the image editing pointers - they will 
help.

Calvin



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help My Skies

2012-06-11 Thread Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
When using other images notice that you can repeat the same image as many
times as you need and do masks so that only the sky on it is used.

Another approach would be to substitute the whole sky for another... a sky
is a sky :)

Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://cartola.org/panoforum



2012/6/11 Calvin McDonald c...@ckmcdonald.com

 Carlos:

 Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.  Your tips will help me out.

 I do play with masking a bit but I wouldn't call it methodical at all.  I
 kind of do a hit-and-miss approach as I have little skill at it.
 Occasionally I generate improvement with masks but usually not.  I haven't
 tried using other images.  I'll give that a try.  My PS skills improve with
 every pano I make.  However, I have a long way to go to fully use the
 capability of the tool.  Thanks for the image editing pointers - they will
 help.

 Calvin



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help My Skies

2012-06-11 Thread Carl von Einem
In the upper areas of an equirectangular image the information is so 
compressed that it's not easy to use clone tools etc.
Usually it helps to reproject to cube faces which have a rectilinear 
projection and cover 90 x 90 degrees. Especially for the zenith (also 
the nadir) that helps a lot!


So with Hugin, you can load your equirect back into a new project as 
your input file (lens type: equirectangular, 360 degrees hfov).


In Images tab set pitch to -90 degrees (in the Fast preview window you 
can now see the zenith in the center).


In Stitcher tab set projection to rectilinear and fov to 90 x 90.
Press calculate optimal size and stitch.

With the original panotools this could be done in Photoshop but I bet 
this would also possible with Kays Python scripts, right?


Here is a HowTo for the nadir:
http://panospace.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/edit-the-nadir/

Here is more about it in the panotools wiki:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Extracting_and_inserting_rectilinear_Views

Cheers,
Carl

Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) schrieb am 11.06.12 16:52:

When using other images notice that you can repeat the same image as
many times as you need and do masks so that only the sky on it is used.

Another approach would be to substitute the whole sky for another... a
sky is a sky :)

Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://cartola.org/panoforum



2012/6/11 Calvin McDonald c...@ckmcdonald.com mailto:c...@ckmcdonald.com

Carlos:

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.  Your tips will help
me out.

I do play with masking a bit but I wouldn't call it methodical at
all.  I kind of do a hit-and-miss approach as I have little skill at
it.  Occasionally I generate improvement with masks but usually
not.  I haven't tried using other images.  I'll give that a try.  My
PS skills improve with every pano I make.  However, I have a long
way to go to fully use the capability of the tool.  Thanks for the
image editing pointers - they will help.

Calvin



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help My Skies

2012-06-11 Thread Tim Nugent
erect2cubic might help here:

erect2cubic
Takes an equirectangular image and produces a .pto file suitable for
extracting six cube faces.

Usage:
   /usr/local/bin/erect2cubic --erect=myerectangular.tif --ptofile=cubic.pto

Options:
   --filespec (panotools format, defaults to 'TIFF_m')
   --roll (degrees)
   --pitch(degrees, use -90 if nadir is in centre)
   --yaw  (degrees, adjust position of first cubeface)
   --face (cubeface size in pixels, defaults to optimum)


On 11 June 2012 16:16, Carl von Einem c...@einem.net wrote:

 In the upper areas of an equirectangular image the information is so
 compressed that it's not easy to use clone tools etc.
 Usually it helps to reproject to cube faces which have a rectilinear
 projection and cover 90 x 90 degrees. Especially for the zenith (also the
 nadir) that helps a lot!

 So with Hugin, you can load your equirect back into a new project as your
 input file (lens type: equirectangular, 360 degrees hfov).

 In Images tab set pitch to -90 degrees (in the Fast preview window you
 can now see the zenith in the center).

 In Stitcher tab set projection to rectilinear and fov to 90 x 90.
 Press calculate optimal size and stitch.

 With the original panotools this could be done in Photoshop but I bet this
 would also possible with Kays Python scripts, right?

 Here is a HowTo for the nadir:
 http://panospace.wordpress.**com/2008/03/18/edit-the-nadir/http://panospace.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/edit-the-nadir/
 **

 Here is more about it in the panotools wiki:
 http://wiki.panotools.org/**Extracting_and_inserting_**rectilinear_Viewshttp://wiki.panotools.org/Extracting_and_inserting_rectilinear_Views
 

 Cheers,
 Carl

 Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) schrieb am 11.06.12 16:52:

 When using other images notice that you can repeat the same image as
 many times as you need and do masks so that only the sky on it is used.

 Another approach would be to substitute the whole sky for another... a
 sky is a sky :)

 Cheers,

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum



 2012/6/11 Calvin McDonald c...@ckmcdonald.com mailto:c...@ckmcdonald.com
 


Carlos:

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.  Your tips will help
me out.

I do play with masking a bit but I wouldn't call it methodical at
all.  I kind of do a hit-and-miss approach as I have little skill at
it.  Occasionally I generate improvement with masks but usually
not.  I haven't tried using other images.  I'll give that a try.  My
PS skills improve with every pano I make.  However, I have a long
way to go to fully use the capability of the tool.  Thanks for the
image editing pointers - they will help.

Calvin



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help My Skies

2012-06-11 Thread Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
Yes, I also use erect2cubic, but to have it you need to install Bruno
Postle's Panotools::Script http://search.cpan.org/dist/Panotools-Script/.
If someone need it for windows I have it already compiled as a portable
version.

Cheers,

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360
http://cartola.org/panoforum



2012/6/11 Tim Nugent timnug...@gmail.com

 erect2cubic might help here:

 erect2cubic
 Takes an equirectangular image and produces a .pto file suitable for
 extracting six cube faces.

 Usage:
/usr/local/bin/erect2cubic --erect=myerectangular.tif
 --ptofile=cubic.pto

 Options:
--filespec (panotools format, defaults to 'TIFF_m')
--roll (degrees)
--pitch(degrees, use -90 if nadir is in centre)
--yaw  (degrees, adjust position of first cubeface)
--face (cubeface size in pixels, defaults to optimum)


 On 11 June 2012 16:16, Carl von Einem c...@einem.net wrote:

 In the upper areas of an equirectangular image the information is so
 compressed that it's not easy to use clone tools etc.
 Usually it helps to reproject to cube faces which have a rectilinear
 projection and cover 90 x 90 degrees. Especially for the zenith (also the
 nadir) that helps a lot!

 So with Hugin, you can load your equirect back into a new project as your
 input file (lens type: equirectangular, 360 degrees hfov).

 In Images tab set pitch to -90 degrees (in the Fast preview window you
 can now see the zenith in the center).

 In Stitcher tab set projection to rectilinear and fov to 90 x 90.
 Press calculate optimal size and stitch.

 With the original panotools this could be done in Photoshop but I bet
 this would also possible with Kays Python scripts, right?

 Here is a HowTo for the nadir:
 http://panospace.wordpress.**com/2008/03/18/edit-the-nadir/http://panospace.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/edit-the-nadir/
 **

 Here is more about it in the panotools wiki:
 http://wiki.panotools.org/**Extracting_and_inserting_**rectilinear_Viewshttp://wiki.panotools.org/Extracting_and_inserting_rectilinear_Views
 

 Cheers,
 Carl

 Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) schrieb am 11.06.12 16:52:

 When using other images notice that you can repeat the same image as
 many times as you need and do masks so that only the sky on it is used.

 Another approach would be to substitute the whole sky for another... a
 sky is a sky :)

 Cheers,

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum



 2012/6/11 Calvin McDonald c...@ckmcdonald.com mailto:c...@ckmcdonald.com
 


Carlos:

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.  Your tips will help
me out.

I do play with masking a bit but I wouldn't call it methodical at
all.  I kind of do a hit-and-miss approach as I have little skill at
it.  Occasionally I generate improvement with masks but usually
not.  I haven't tried using other images.  I'll give that a try.  My
PS skills improve with every pano I make.  However, I have a long
way to go to fully use the capability of the tool.  Thanks for the
image editing pointers - they will help.

Calvin



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