Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
Hi all, Jan, I don't run such a cluster, but if I where running this, without effective cooling, I would choose motherboards like Jetway JNC96-525 Fanless Dual Core Atom Mini-ITX Board with 12V DC Input. You can put 4 GB DDR2 per motherboard which I think is enough. Processors is low power, so you can put a bunch of these on one single standard atx PSU (I think it's about 40W per motherboard at max power consumption, one -600W sold- PSU should run 8 motherboards), see this link : http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/cluster/default.asp?page=1 . For interconnects, a gigabit ethernet switch can be used since the board embeds gigabit controler. I do not know anything about the performance such setup can get, but the performances of such processors are far lower than traditional desktop chips, so it could be expensive to build efficient setup on this base. If you have a good cooling and supply solution, you should consider AMD Athlon II X2 270 AM3 (~65€) with Asrock N68-S3 UCC (max memory of 8 GB DDR3) (~40€). I'd be pleased to know that such a setup (10 motherboards to follow your suggestion, no mater if it's atom or amd X2 based) can run 6 times faster than a six cores AMD. I just know that with a good scaling ratio on professional software, in order to divide computing time of one computer by two (just little fewer than two), you need to take two similar computers (with 40Gb/s link between, of course). Tip : for computation only, if you run linux, I think that you can just boot all nodes with PXE or similar boot over ethernet, but I've no experience that way. Sorry if it seems brain-dead, I'm quite tired 8-| . Cheers, legranblon Jan Martin wrote: It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment. Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only. Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6 core AMD PC for USD 750. What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and CPUs, that provides a better performance per Dollar. Not a fast PC on a budget. Something like 10 boards of 150 USD each that provide 6 times the performance, bust just cost twice. Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
i think you sent this to the wrong person i just tried to post a question about hugin that's probably where you got mu email from On 1/12/2012 7:35 PM, Chris Erskine wrote: how much ram is it using? and have you tried running muiltiple renders on your 6 core amd? my first thought is your transfer speed may become a bottleneck. my thought would be to get an intel 2600 enough ram to cover 8 jobs at once and an ssd that good at multitreaded read. though it may run faster to disable hyperthreading and just run 4 jobs at once. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Tim Nugent timnug...@gmail.com mailto:timnug...@gmail.com wrote: Have a look at Xbox (and maybe PS3 - not sure if these still let you run Linux) clusters. Lots of people are going to be building clusters using Raspberry Pi's when they go on sale hopefully later this month (700Mhz ARM/Linux machines for ~$25). Whether or not you get the performance you're after, it'd be a fun project putting something like that together. I have quite a lot of experience with Sun Grid Engine on very large/expensive compute clusters and Hugin jobs run fine. Tim On 12 January 2012 14:49, Jan Martin janmar...@diy-streetview.org mailto:janmar...@diy-streetview.org wrote: It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment. Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only. Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6 core AMD PC for USD 750. What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and CPUs, that provides a better performance per Dollar. Not a fast PC on a budget. Something like 10 boards of 150 USD each that provide 6 times the performance, bust just cost twice. Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com mailto:hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:hugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com mailto:hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:hugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
have you seen this? http://helmer.sfe.se/ its a couple of years old now, and I'd prob do it now something like the 2600. or i guess more of them with a cheaper chip. but that it a good cpu for the price the other option you can go is something like a 4p opteron system with either 32 or 48 cores. if you get the base cpu they work out quite well price/performance. though you would need a fast storage to feed it. and you probably would want to make a bunch of virtual machines out of it. I'm not sure which hugin would prefer but your work load is probably more suited to more low end nodes. here's a list cpu's value/performance http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Zachary rock...@circleoaks.com wrote: i think you sent this to the wrong person i just tried to post a question about hugin that's probably where you got mu email from On 1/12/2012 7:35 PM, Chris Erskine wrote: how much ram is it using? and have you tried running muiltiple renders on your 6 core amd? my first thought is your transfer speed may become a bottleneck. my thought would be to get an intel 2600 enough ram to cover 8 jobs at once and an ssd that good at multitreaded read. though it may run faster to disable hyperthreading and just run 4 jobs at once. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Tim Nugent timnug...@gmail.com wrote: Have a look at Xbox (and maybe PS3 - not sure if these still let you run Linux) clusters. Lots of people are going to be building clusters using Raspberry Pi's when they go on sale hopefully later this month (700Mhz ARM/Linux machines for ~$25). Whether or not you get the performance you're after, it'd be a fun project putting something like that together. I have quite a lot of experience with Sun Grid Engine on very large/expensive compute clusters and Hugin jobs run fine. Tim On 12 January 2012 14:49, Jan Martin janmar...@diy-streetview.orgwrote: It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment. Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only. Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6 core AMD PC for USD 750. What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and CPUs, that provides a better performance per Dollar. Not a fast PC on a budget. Something like 10 boards of 150 USD each that provide 6 times the performance, bust just cost twice. Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
So your 5x GoPro 360 pano rig is working out well then, Jan? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
You're in a country with fast internet. Get a faster internet connection :) You can also mail Amazon your hard disks (yes really) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
Ok, :) if you want a normal pc, -core i7 -24GB ram -SSD x2 -cheap gpu -good psu should be about 800 euro or less. should be very very fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment. Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only. Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6 core AMD PC for USD 750. What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and CPUs, that provides a better performance per Dollar. Not a fast PC on a budget. Something like 10 boards of 150 USD each that provide 6 times the performance, bust just cost twice. Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
Have a look at Xbox (and maybe PS3 - not sure if these still let you run Linux) clusters. Lots of people are going to be building clusters using Raspberry Pi's when they go on sale hopefully later this month (700Mhz ARM/Linux machines for ~$25). Whether or not you get the performance you're after, it'd be a fun project putting something like that together. I have quite a lot of experience with Sun Grid Engine on very large/expensive compute clusters and Hugin jobs run fine. Tim On 12 January 2012 14:49, Jan Martin janmar...@diy-streetview.org wrote: It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment. Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only. Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6 core AMD PC for USD 750. What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and CPUs, that provides a better performance per Dollar. Not a fast PC on a budget. Something like 10 boards of 150 USD each that provide 6 times the performance, bust just cost twice. Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
how much ram is it using? and have you tried running muiltiple renders on your 6 core amd? my first thought is your transfer speed may become a bottleneck. my thought would be to get an intel 2600 enough ram to cover 8 jobs at once and an ssd that good at multitreaded read. though it may run faster to disable hyperthreading and just run 4 jobs at once. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Tim Nugent timnug...@gmail.com wrote: Have a look at Xbox (and maybe PS3 - not sure if these still let you run Linux) clusters. Lots of people are going to be building clusters using Raspberry Pi's when they go on sale hopefully later this month (700Mhz ARM/Linux machines for ~$25). Whether or not you get the performance you're after, it'd be a fun project putting something like that together. I have quite a lot of experience with Sun Grid Engine on very large/expensive compute clusters and Hugin jobs run fine. Tim On 12 January 2012 14:49, Jan Martin janmar...@diy-streetview.org wrote: It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment. Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only. Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6 core AMD PC for USD 750. What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and CPUs, that provides a better performance per Dollar. Not a fast PC on a budget. Something like 10 boards of 150 USD each that provide 6 times the performance, bust just cost twice. Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?
It uses max. 4 GB of RAM. It runs 6 times in parallel on a six core machine. According to the gnome-system-monitor all 6 cores are at 100% nearly all the time. Jan On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Chris Erskine stupid.tour...@gmail.comwrote: how much ram is it using? and have you tried running muiltiple renders on your 6 core amd? my first thought is your transfer speed may become a bottleneck. my thought would be to get an intel 2600 enough ram to cover 8 jobs at once and an ssd that good at multitreaded read. though it may run faster to disable hyperthreading and just run 4 jobs at once. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Tim Nugent timnug...@gmail.com wrote: Have a look at Xbox (and maybe PS3 - not sure if these still let you run Linux) clusters. Lots of people are going to be building clusters using Raspberry Pi's when they go on sale hopefully later this month (700Mhz ARM/Linux machines for ~$25). Whether or not you get the performance you're after, it'd be a fun project putting something like that together. I have quite a lot of experience with Sun Grid Engine on very large/expensive compute clusters and Hugin jobs run fine. Tim On 12 January 2012 14:49, Jan Martin janmar...@diy-streetview.orgwrote: It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment. Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only. Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6 core AMD PC for USD 750. What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and CPUs, that provides a better performance per Dollar. Not a fast PC on a budget. Something like 10 boards of 150 USD each that provide 6 times the performance, bust just cost twice. Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- http://www.DIY-streetview.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
