Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-11 Thread Gnome Nomad 

Bruno Postle wrote:

On Fri 11-Nov-2011 at 10:50 -1000, Gnome Nomad wrote:


Now if only there was a way to check and easily tell when masks on 
different images overlap.


This checkbox will indicate when there are 'include' masks in other 
photos that alter the current photo:


  Mask tab -> Options -> Show extent of active masks and crop


Cool - thanks!

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-11 Thread Bruno Postle 

On Fri 11-Nov-2011 at 10:50 -1000, Gnome Nomad wrote:


Now if only there was a way to check and easily tell when masks on 
different images overlap.


This checkbox will indicate when there are 'include' masks in other 
photos that alter the current photo:


  Mask tab -> Options -> Show extent of active masks and crop

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-11 Thread Gnome Nomad 

Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:

2011/11/5 kfj <_...@yahoo.com >



On 5 Nov., 07:22, Greg 'groggy' Lehey mailto:groog...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 > > Have you tried hugin masks?
 >
 > As I was going to say.  But in my experience, only exclude masks
 > work.  Has anybody got include masks to work as well?

They work for me as well, though I don't use them so much. It only
took me a while to understand what precisely they do and how to employ
that. Include masks basically put exclude masks on all other images
that coincide with the mask and leave the image with the include mask
unmasked. That's the only way to do it since the blending stage has no
notion of masks, only of alpha channels, so you can only take away
bits from images. And that's also the reason why overlapping include
masks don't work - you get holes in the pano. The content is taken
from the bit that's masked with the include mask, excluding all other
content other images could provide for that area.

So that's what was happening sometimes when I used include masks. 
Couldn't Hugin rather use a more intuitive logic: merge the parts where 
two include masks overlap? This could be achieved by setting the alpha 
channel to 0 only if the pixel is not part of an include mask.


That would be great!

Now if only there was a way to check and easily tell when masks on 
different images overlap.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-11 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria 
2011/11/5 kfj <_...@yahoo.com>

>
>
> On 5 Nov., 07:22, Greg 'groggy' Lehey  wrote:
>
> > > Have you tried hugin masks?
> >
> > As I was going to say.  But in my experience, only exclude masks
> > work.  Has anybody got include masks to work as well?
>
> They work for me as well, though I don't use them so much. It only
> took me a while to understand what precisely they do and how to employ
> that. Include masks basically put exclude masks on all other images
> that coincide with the mask and leave the image with the include mask
> unmasked. That's the only way to do it since the blending stage has no
> notion of masks, only of alpha channels, so you can only take away
> bits from images. And that's also the reason why overlapping include
> masks don't work - you get holes in the pano. The content is taken
> from the bit that's masked with the include mask, excluding all other
> content other images could provide for that area.
>

So that's what was happening sometimes when I used include masks. Couldn't
Hugin rather use a more intuitive logic: merge the parts where two include
masks overlap? This could be achieved by setting the alpha channel to 0
only if the pixel is not part of an include mask.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-10 Thread JohnPW 
Yeah Kay & Daniel,
Thanks. I did find the zoom setting. Unfortunately I also found some
bugs with its function on Macs and also with the mask editing
features. I did report them on the Hugin bug site though.

On Nov 8, 12:48 pm, dkloi  wrote:
> I can zoom in the mask tab (use the zoom menu). I have no problems
> with the size of the cursor or mask.
>
> Try ctrl left and right mouse clicking to add and remove points to a
> mask. The Help has a more comprehensive desription.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel.
>
> On Nov 5, 7:41 am, JohnPW  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > They work for me too. The mask interface is very well thought out int
> > terms of indicating how it effects overlapping areas in the other
> > layers. My only gripe is that i wish the mask drawing tool were more
> > usable. The cursor and outline seem overly large for the task, you
> > cant zoom while drawing the mask (or even after one has drawn the
> > mask,) and frustratingly you can't add or remove points to an existing
> > mask although you can move existing points. It's possible I just
> > haven't figured out how to do do these things yet. I only just
> > stumbled onto how to zoom the planosphere in the fast preview a week
> > or two ago. :-)
> > The guys who have made this software have put a lot of thought into it
> > and it's always getting better.
>
> > On Nov 5, 1:22 am, Greg 'groggy' Lehey  wrote:
>
> > > On Friday,  4 November 2011 at  6:39:59 -0200, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho 
> > > (Cartola) wrote:
>
> > > > Em sexta-feira, 4 de novembro de 2011, 
> > > > TinCanFury escreveu:
> > > >> I have a series of photos I'm trying to merge, two of them contain an
> > > >> object in the overlapping area where I would like to have one image be
> > > >> used for that space and not the other image that also contains that
> > > >> space, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that.
> > > >> Everything I've tried still has the image I don't want to be used for
> > > >> that space being used.
>
> > > > Have you tried hugin masks?
>
> > > As I was going to say.  But in my experience, only exclude masks
> > > work.  Has anybody got include masks to work as well?
>
> > > Greg
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[hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-10 Thread dkloi 
I can zoom in the mask tab (use the zoom menu). I have no problems
with the size of the cursor or mask.

Try ctrl left and right mouse clicking to add and remove points to a
mask. The Help has a more comprehensive desription.

Cheers,
Daniel.

On Nov 5, 7:41 am, JohnPW  wrote:
> They work for me too. The mask interface is very well thought out int
> terms of indicating how it effects overlapping areas in the other
> layers. My only gripe is that i wish the mask drawing tool were more
> usable. The cursor and outline seem overly large for the task, you
> cant zoom while drawing the mask (or even after one has drawn the
> mask,) and frustratingly you can't add or remove points to an existing
> mask although you can move existing points. It's possible I just
> haven't figured out how to do do these things yet. I only just
> stumbled onto how to zoom the planosphere in the fast preview a week
> or two ago. :-)
> The guys who have made this software have put a lot of thought into it
> and it's always getting better.
>
> On Nov 5, 1:22 am, Greg 'groggy' Lehey  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Friday,  4 November 2011 at  6:39:59 -0200, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho 
> > (Cartola) wrote:
>
> > > Em sexta-feira, 4 de novembro de 2011, TinCanFury 
> > > escreveu:
> > >> I have a series of photos I'm trying to merge, two of them contain an
> > >> object in the overlapping area where I would like to have one image be
> > >> used for that space and not the other image that also contains that
> > >> space, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that.
> > >> Everything I've tried still has the image I don't want to be used for
> > >> that space being used.
>
> > > Have you tried hugin masks?
>
> > As I was going to say.  But in my experience, only exclude masks
> > work.  Has anybody got include masks to work as well?
>
> > Greg
> > --
> > Sent from my desktop computer
> > Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key.
> > See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
> > This message is digitally signed.  If your Microsoft MUA reports
> > problems, please readhttp://tinyurl.com/broken-mua
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[hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-08 Thread kfj 
On 5 Nov., 08:41, JohnPW  wrote:

> They work for me too.
>...
> It's possible I just
> haven't figured out how to do do these things yet.

http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Mask_tab

Kay

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[hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-06 Thread JohnPW 
They work for me too. The mask interface is very well thought out int
terms of indicating how it effects overlapping areas in the other
layers. My only gripe is that i wish the mask drawing tool were more
usable. The cursor and outline seem overly large for the task, you
cant zoom while drawing the mask (or even after one has drawn the
mask,) and frustratingly you can't add or remove points to an existing
mask although you can move existing points. It's possible I just
haven't figured out how to do do these things yet. I only just
stumbled onto how to zoom the planosphere in the fast preview a week
or two ago. :-)
The guys who have made this software have put a lot of thought into it
and it's always getting better.

On Nov 5, 1:22 am, Greg 'groggy' Lehey  wrote:
> On Friday,  4 November 2011 at  6:39:59 -0200, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho 
> (Cartola) wrote:
>
> > Em sexta-feira, 4 de novembro de 2011, TinCanFury 
> > escreveu:
> >> I have a series of photos I'm trying to merge, two of them contain an
> >> object in the overlapping area where I would like to have one image be
> >> used for that space and not the other image that also contains that
> >> space, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that.
> >> Everything I've tried still has the image I don't want to be used for
> >> that space being used.
>
> > Have you tried hugin masks?
>
> As I was going to say.  But in my experience, only exclude masks
> work.  Has anybody got include masks to work as well?
>
> Greg
> --
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[hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?

2011-11-05 Thread kfj 


On 5 Nov., 07:22, Greg 'groggy' Lehey  wrote:

> > Have you tried hugin masks?
>
> As I was going to say.  But in my experience, only exclude masks
> work.  Has anybody got include masks to work as well?

They work for me as well, though I don't use them so much. It only
took me a while to understand what precisely they do and how to employ
that. Include masks basically put exclude masks on all other images
that coincide with the mask and leave the image with the include mask
unmasked. That's the only way to do it since the blending stage has no
notion of masks, only of alpha channels, so you can only take away
bits from images. And that's also the reason why overlapping include
masks don't work - you get holes in the pano. The content is taken
from the bit that's masked with the include mask, excluding all other
content other images could provide for that area.

Kay

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