Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How can I locate a control point in remapped images?

2011-04-08 Thread Terry Duell

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:48:48 +1000, Erik Krause erik.kra...@gmx.de wrote:


Am 08.04.2011 03:18, schrieb Tduell:

I would like to be able to locate a control point in each of a  pair
of remapped images.
Is there a way of extracting the coordinates from Hugin?


Wasn't pano_trafo made for this?



I have tried pano_trafo and it puts out pano coords, not the coords of the  
remapped image.

Is there a way to derive the remapped image coords from the pano coords?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How can I locate a control point in remapped images?

2011-04-08 Thread Bruno Postle

On Sat 09-Apr-2011 at 08:30 +1000, Terry Duell wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:48:48 +1000, Erik Krause erik.kra...@gmx.de wrote:

Am 08.04.2011 03:18, schrieb Tduell:

I would like to be able to locate a control point in each of a  pair
of remapped images.
Is there a way of extracting the coordinates from Hugin?


Wasn't pano_trafo made for this?


I have tried pano_trafo and it puts out pano coords, not the coords 
of the remapped image.


There is a pano_trafo -r option that should reverse the 
transformation.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How can I locate a control point in remapped images?

2011-04-08 Thread Terry Duell

Hullo Bruno,

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 08:38:48 +1000, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote:



Wasn't pano_trafo made for this?


I have tried pano_trafo and it puts out pano coords, not the coords of  
the remapped image.


There is a pano_trafo -r option that should reverse the transformation.


Not sure how that would help.
I can get control point coords from each image of a pair, then optimise  
and save remapped images. I want to get the coords of those same points in  
the remapped images.
It looks to me as though pano_trafo translates between the original images  
and the stitched pano (and wicki-werka), certainly looks that way by the  
numbers it has been producing.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How can I locate a control point in remapped images?

2011-04-08 Thread Bruno Postle

On Sat 09-Apr-2011 at 08:44 +1000, Terry Duell wrote:

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 08:38:48 +1000, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote:


There is a pano_trafo -r option that should reverse the transformation.


Not sure how that would help.
I can get control point coords from each image of a pair, then 
optimise and save remapped images. I want to get the coords of those 
same points in the remapped images.
It looks to me as though pano_trafo translates between the original 
images and the stitched pano (and wicki-werka), certainly looks that 
way by the numbers it has been producing.


The panorama coordinates should be the same as the remapped images 
coordinates, or will be unless you have cropped TIFF output set.


If you want to keep using cropped TIFF output, you can read the 
offsets with tiffinfo and subtract them (you have to convert from 
inches to pixels which is a bit of an annoyance).


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How can I locate a control point in remapped images?

2011-04-08 Thread Terry Duell

Hullo Bruno,
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 08:58:05 +1000, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote:




The panorama coordinates should be the same as the remapped images  
coordinates, or will be unless you have cropped TIFF output set.


I'm not using cropped TIFF output...or didn't think I was.
When I tried pano_trafo the x coords being returned were way outside the  
range of those of each of the remapped images.
Maybe I'm having another bad day and misunderstood what I was seeing, I'll  
try again.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How can I locate a control point in remapped images?

2011-04-08 Thread Terry Duell
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:05:12 +1000, Terry Duell tdu...@iinet.net.au  
wrote:



Hullo Bruno,
When I tried pano_trafo the x coords being returned were way outside the  
range of those of each of the remapped images.
Maybe I'm having another bad day and misunderstood what I was seeing,  
I'll try again.


pano_trafo is definitely returning coords from the point in the stitched  
pano, not the coords in the remapped image.
I have a work-around for this issue for the small number of cases I'm  
trying, but it is a bit cumbersome, and it would be nice to get the coords  
directly.
What I have done is find control points, then choose one and get the  
coords in each image. I then load the original images into gimp and at the  
point location paint a small white cross hair. Then load the altered  
images back into hugin, align and save the remapped images, each of which  
now have the small white cross hair. As I said, cumbersome or perhaps more  
correctly, tedious, but I can now use the altered originals and remapped  
images for a number of experiments. I shouldn't have to do too  
often...well not at my current rate of progress!


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Terry Duell

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