Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread Jan Martin
Is it just me, or is there really no way to get the original images with
EXIF intact?
Also I do not want to download 100 images one by one.

Jan

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I set the number of CPU down to 1, still fails after 6 photos (4948 bit
 wide each).  If I reduce the resolution of each photo to 1600 (268kb file
 size each), I can load 140+ pictures no sweat.  At a resolution of  3200
 bits wide and I was able to load close to 100 photos before it fails.

 If anybody wants to try, the pictures are located at:


 https://picasaweb.google.com/116295145477369704246/HuginTest?authkey=Gv1sRgCPeHl_-Wmci06QE



 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:16:27 PM UTC-7, Steeve wrote:

 An error happened while loading image :  caught exception: bad
  allocation
 Hasn't this problem already been discussed on this newsgroups?

 In summary on computers with multiple cores/processors images are
 being loaded in parallel which consumes too much memory.. The error is
 not coming from the memory which is currently being used, but from the
 additional memory it wants to allocate.. You can find a better
 explanation by search the newsgroup for bad allocation

 The workaround was to reduce the number of CPUs Hugin uses..

 In Hugin look at file-preferences- number of CPUs. On my machine
 this was set to 4 I had to reduce it to 1.

 With 4 I'd typically get this error after 10 images (I've got a
 smaller camera sensor)
 With 2 I'd still occassionally got this error
 So I end up having to reduce this to 1.

 Regards
 Steve





 On May 30, 5:01 am, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:
  For my case, this is the newly available 64 bit version of Hugin (w new
  GUI), running under Windows 7, 8G of real memory, plenty of disk space
 for
  temp, and the max amount of memory used by Hugin appears to be less
 than
  1.5G.  The failure occurs with ramdon set of photos at widths of 4948
 bits
  each.  Most cases I tried, the failure occurs after a handful of
 pictures -
  around 4 to 5.  The error message simply says  An error happened
 while
  loading image :
   caught exception: bad  allocation.   If I scale the pictures down to
 1087
  bits, there is no issue.  I can process over a hundred files no
 problem.
   What else info can I provide to help?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:53:12 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote:
 
   It would help if you provide a *detailed* description of when things
 go
   wrong instead of just saying Hugin crashes. Which version, which
 OS, 32
   or 64 bit, amount of RAM, *specific error message*, all of those may
   matter. Moreover, giving incorrect information (which you did, I
 guess not
   purposefully but nonetheless) can steer your fellow group members in
 the
   wrong direction. Being precise can save everyone some time - and a
 little
   frustration. Please keep that in mind.
 
   Also, I asked which program crashed a couple replies back. Please do
 read
   answers carefully when people are offering you a hand. We are all
   volunteers here.
 
   Could you try to see which image the cp generators are crashing on
   exactly? If you find it, you may want to post it somewhere so we can
 have a
   look at it. Maybe one of your images is broken which may cause all
 kinds of
   unexpected behavior.
 
   --
   Bart
 
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:02:36 PM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote:
 
   Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure is
 not
   when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've
 tried
   changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner
 than
   others).
 
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:
 
   On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote:
I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load
 photos
at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before
running into the dreadful An error happened while loading image
 :
caught exception: bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory
 -
according to the Task Manager.
 
   Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the
 Hugin
   Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space in
 your
   TEMP directory?
 
   With kind regards
 
   Stefan Peter
 
   --
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   practice there is.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
I have the raw file but when Picasa sync with web site, it automatically 
converts them to jpg and strips the EXIF.  I'll see if there's a way to 
include the EXIF.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:00:04 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:

 Is it just me, or is there really no way to get the original images with 
 EXIF intact?
 Also I do not want to download 100 images one by one.

 Jan

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I set the number of CPU down to 1, still fails after 6 photos (4948 bit 
 wide each).  If I reduce the resolution of each photo to 1600 (268kb file 
 size each), I can load 140+ pictures no sweat.  At a resolution of  3200 
 bits wide and I was able to load close to 100 photos before it fails.

 If anybody wants to try, the pictures are located at:


 https://picasaweb.google.com/116295145477369704246/HuginTest?authkey=Gv1sRgCPeHl_-Wmci06QE
  


 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:16:27 PM UTC-7, Steeve wrote:

 An error happened while loading image :  caught exception: bad 
  allocation 
 Hasn't this problem already been discussed on this newsgroups? 

 In summary on computers with multiple cores/processors images are 
 being loaded in parallel which consumes too much memory.. The error is 
 not coming from the memory which is currently being used, but from the 
 additional memory it wants to allocate.. You can find a better 
 explanation by search the newsgroup for bad allocation 

 The workaround was to reduce the number of CPUs Hugin uses.. 

 In Hugin look at file-preferences- number of CPUs. On my machine 
 this was set to 4 I had to reduce it to 1. 

 With 4 I'd typically get this error after 10 images (I've got a 
 smaller camera sensor) 
 With 2 I'd still occassionally got this error 
 So I end up having to reduce this to 1. 

 Regards 
 Steve 





 On May 30, 5:01 am, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote: 
  For my case, this is the newly available 64 bit version of Hugin (w 
 new 
  GUI), running under Windows 7, 8G of real memory, plenty of disk space 
 for 
  temp, and the max amount of memory used by Hugin appears to be less 
 than 
  1.5G.  The failure occurs with ramdon set of photos at widths of 4948 
 bits 
  each.  Most cases I tried, the failure occurs after a handful of 
 pictures - 
  around 4 to 5.  The error message simply says  An error happened 
 while 
  loading image : 
   caught exception: bad  allocation.   If I scale the pictures down to 
 1087 
  bits, there is no issue.  I can process over a hundred files no 
 problem. 
   What else info can I provide to help? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:53:12 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote: 
  
   It would help if you provide a *detailed* description of when things 
 go 
   wrong instead of just saying Hugin crashes. Which version, which 
 OS, 32 
   or 64 bit, amount of RAM, *specific error message*, all of those may 
   matter. Moreover, giving incorrect information (which you did, I 
 guess not 
   purposefully but nonetheless) can steer your fellow group members in 
 the 
   wrong direction. Being precise can save everyone some time - and a 
 little 
   frustration. Please keep that in mind. 
  
   Also, I asked which program crashed a couple replies back. Please do 
 read 
   answers carefully when people are offering you a hand. We are all 
   volunteers here. 
  
   Could you try to see which image the cp generators are crashing on 
   exactly? If you find it, you may want to post it somewhere so we can 
 have a 
   look at it. Maybe one of your images is broken which may cause all 
 kinds of 
   unexpected behavior. 
  
   -- 
   Bart 
  
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:02:36 PM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote: 
  
   Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure 
 is not 
   when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've 
 tried 
   changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner 
 than 
   others). 
  
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote: 
  
   On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote: 
I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load 
 photos 
at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos 
 before 
running into the dreadful An error happened while loading image 
 : 
caught exception: bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free 
 memory - 
according to the Task Manager. 
  
   Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the 
 Hugin 
   Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space 
 in your 
   TEMP directory? 
  
   With kind regards 
  
   Stefan Peter 
  
   -- 
   In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In 
   practice there is.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread Stefan Peter
Dear ecs1749

On 30.05.2012 16:58, ecs1749 wrote:
 I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to see
 how many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no problem.

What setting are you talking about? Please bear in mind that all these
emails will be preserved for eternity and a gazillion Hugin users may
search for a solution to the the exact same problem you had. Wouldn't it
be nice for them to get a solution? Something in the way of I did this
and this, and now it works? Not to mention the fact that in order to
solve these problems in Hugin, the developers and contributors to the
project are eager to know what to do to fix the problems found by their
users.
So, please, what did you do _exactly_ in order to be able to create your
pano?

WKR

Stefan Peter



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the tool actually works in the first place :)
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
I followed the steps you posted and was able to process 100 or so photos.   
Here's a repost of your procedure:

If your problem is with the CP detecors, there seems to be a solution at 
least for CPFind. Can you please give this a try: 

o Open the Preferences dialog of Hugin 
o Select the Control Point Detectors tab 
o Press the Load defaults button in the lower left corner. 
o Select the entry named Hugins CPFind (Default) from the list of CP 
  detectors available. 
o Press the Edit ... button on the right. You will be presented 
  with the Parameters for Control Point Detectors dialog. 
o Add --ncores 1 to the Arguments entry. It should read now 
  --ncores 1 --multirow -o %o %s 
o Leave this screen by pressing OK 
o Use the Apply button to apply your changes. 
o Redo your panorama 
o Let us know how it went.  


On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:18:02 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 Dear ecs1749 

 On 30.05.2012 16:58, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to see 
  how many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no problem. 

 What setting are you talking about? Please bear in mind that all these 
 emails will be preserved for eternity and a gazillion Hugin users may 
 search for a solution to the the exact same problem you had. Wouldn't it 
 be nice for them to get a solution? Something in the way of I did this 
 and this, and now it works? Not to mention the fact that in order to 
 solve these problems in Hugin, the developers and contributors to the 
 project are eager to know what to do to fix the problems found by their 
 users. 
 So, please, what did you do _exactly_ in order to be able to create your 
 pano? 

 WKR 

 Stefan Peter 



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread Stefan Peter
Dear ecs1749

On 30.05.2012 21:59, ecs1749 wrote:
 I followed the steps you posted and was able to process 100 or so
 photos.   Here's a repost of your procedure:

Thank you very much for confirming that this has helped wit CPFind. If I
recall correctly, this issue has been fixed already in the current
development version, so it should not resurface in any Hugin version 
2011.04. However, the situation for CP detectors other than CPFind has
to be reevaluated because you mentioned that these have failed you. too.
Can you, by any chance, remember what other CPDs you tried without success?


With kind regards

Stefan Peter


 
 If your problem is with the CP detecors, there seems to be a solution at 
 least for CPFind. Can you please give this a try: 
 
 o Open the Preferences dialog of Hugin 
 o Select the Control Point Detectors tab 
 o Press the Load defaults button in the lower left corner. 
 o Select the entry named Hugins CPFind (Default) from the list of CP 
   detectors available. 
 o Press the Edit ... button on the right. You will be presented 
   with the Parameters for Control Point Detectors dialog. 
 o Add --ncores 1 to the Arguments entry. It should read now 
   --ncores 1 --multirow -o %o %s 
 o Leave this screen by pressing OK 
 o Use the Apply button to apply your changes. 
 o Redo your panorama 
 o Let us know how it went.  
 
 
 On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:18:02 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:
 
 Dear ecs1749
 
 On 30.05.2012 16:58, ecs1749 wrote:
  I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to see
  how many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no
 problem.
 
 What setting are you talking about? Please bear in mind that all these
 emails will be preserved for eternity and a gazillion Hugin users may
 search for a solution to the the exact same problem you had.
 Wouldn't it
 be nice for them to get a solution? Something in the way of I did this
 and this, and now it works? Not to mention the fact that in order to
 solve these problems in Hugin, the developers and contributors to the
 project are eager to know what to do to fix the problems found by their
 users.
 So, please, what did you do _exactly_ in order to be able to create
 your
 pano?
 
 WKR
 
 Stefan Peter
 
 
 
 -- 
 In summary, I think you are trying to solve a problem that may not
 need to be solved, using a tool that is not meant to solve it, without
 understanding what is causing your problems and without knowing how
 the tool actually works in the first place :)
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
Hugin;s CPFind + Celeste
Autopano-SIFT-C
Autopano
Panomatic
Align Image stack
CPFind (multirow/stacked)
Autopano-SIFT-C (multirow/stack)
Vertical lines

I tried them all.  Some I get a .exe file not found.  Others fail the same 
way.  I will provide more information once I finish with the pano I've been 
working on.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:57:24 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 Dear ecs1749 

 On 30.05.2012 21:59, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I followed the steps you posted and was able to process 100 or so 
  photos.   Here's a repost of your procedure: 

 Thank you very much for confirming that this has helped wit CPFind. If I 
 recall correctly, this issue has been fixed already in the current 
 development version, so it should not resurface in any Hugin version  
 2011.04. However, the situation for CP detectors other than CPFind has 
 to be reevaluated because you mentioned that these have failed you. too. 
 Can you, by any chance, remember what other CPDs you tried without 
 success? 


 With kind regards 

 Stefan Peter 


  
  If your problem is with the CP detecors, there seems to be a solution at 
  least for CPFind. Can you please give this a try: 
  
  o Open the Preferences dialog of Hugin 
  o Select the Control Point Detectors tab 
  o Press the Load defaults button in the lower left corner. 
  o Select the entry named Hugins CPFind (Default) from the list of CP 
detectors available. 
  o Press the Edit ... button on the right. You will be presented 
with the Parameters for Control Point Detectors dialog. 
  o Add --ncores 1 to the Arguments entry. It should read now 
--ncores 1 --multirow -o %o %s 
  o Leave this screen by pressing OK 
  o Use the Apply button to apply your changes. 
  o Redo your panorama 
  o Let us know how it went.   
  
  
  On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:18:02 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote: 
  
  Dear ecs1749 
  
  On 30.05.2012 16:58, ecs1749 wrote: 
   I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to 
 see 
   how many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no 
  problem. 
  
  What setting are you talking about? Please bear in mind that all 
 these 
  emails will be preserved for eternity and a gazillion Hugin users 
 may 
  search for a solution to the the exact same problem you had. 
  Wouldn't it 
  be nice for them to get a solution? Something in the way of I did 
 this 
  and this, and now it works? Not to mention the fact that in order 
 to 
  solve these problems in Hugin, the developers and contributors to 
 the 
  project are eager to know what to do to fix the problems found by 
 their 
  users. 
  So, please, what did you do _exactly_ in order to be able to create 
  your 
  pano? 
  
  WKR 
  
  Stefan Peter 
  
  
  
  -- 
  In summary, I think you are trying to solve a problem that may not 
  need to be solved, using a tool that is not meant to solve it, 
 without 
  understanding what is causing your problems and without knowing how 
  the tool actually works in the first place :) 
  Jeffrey J. Kosowsky on the backuppc mailing list 
  
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