Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Kerr
one possibility would be to not attempt to teach physics but to make a game
good for introduction and also for teamwork

see
http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html
http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html
http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/physics-games-screenshots_14.html

http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/physics-games-screenshots_14.htmlthinking
of extending to making a video of the game as per your suggestion here
Caroline

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
 wrote:

 Physics is so cool! One of the students today did a really great job with
 it:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nseWyxaN6g
 Does anyone have an idea for a 1 hour or so lesson I could do with
 Physics that would teach a Physics concept and still be incredibly engaging?

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Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:17, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying... all I said was we need
 more data from the field

Well, I also understood that you said that it wasn't obvious enough.
Which surprised me after all the noise lately about getting feedback.

Anyway, I'm seeing feedback coming right now and also efforts to
organize feedback gathering. So, let's do it!

Regards,

Tomeu

 I am in no way blaming anyone for not getting feedback, on the contrary, I
 am frustrated that the calls for feediback are not being heard enoguh, and I
 am well aware of people's efforts to try and get this feedback. What I am
 saying is that the feedback is not coming through does this make sense?
 Or are you saying the feedback is getting through and I'm just not seeing
 it?

 regards,
 David

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 15:51, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  H... I have to agree with Christoph here. I didn't really see it as
  being dramatic at all, but quite factual in fact. The western small
  deployments really don't give us any useful stats on what is happening
  on a
  larger scale in the third world.

 Ok, but will give some other interesting information, or not at all?

  And its important to acknowledge the
  differences between these, which Christoph listed quite concretely.

 And isn't this stating the obvious?

  I think
  what may not have come across obviously enough was that we need way more
  data from the field, in places where Sugar is being used on a large
  scale,
  and this data is just not getting to us. I for one, would love to have
  some
  cold hard facts about Sugar as used in South America and Africa.

 I'm quite appalled by this, you don't read the mailing lists where we
 make regular calls for feedback? Short from taking a plane and
 visiting school by school, I don't see what else I can do to get that
 feedback.

 You understand Spanish, search the olpc-sur mailing list for posts by
 Walter and me and tell here again if we don't ask for feedback.

 It's really frustrating that we are here spending our savings and time
 on this project, and not only the people deploying our software don't
 want to talk to us despite our requests, but other people still think
 we don't want to know about them.

 Frustratedly yours,

 Tomeu

  kind Regards,
  David Van Assche
 
  On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:21 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Christoph
  Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
   Sean DALY schrieb:
   IMHO, close study of small deployments makes them incredibly useful
   to
   all teachers and Learners. The observations and take-aways need to
   be
   triaged of course, starting with what can/should be done by Sugar
   Labs, but I am convinced many learnings will benefit large
   deployments. Until reliable means of sharing experiences and
   feedback
   (polls, questionnaires, council of deployers, etc.) can be put in
   place, microscopic study of a classroom using Sugar is well worth
   the
   effort, in particular for revealing blockers.
  
   I'm not sure I really agree with this statement...
 
  Christoph please keep the dramatic headlines to olpcnews.
 
  In the above paragraph, Walter notes that many lessons can be learned
  from controlled environments which can then be applied to larger
  scaled, less controlled environments.
 
  Please note, this does not _exclude_ anyone from providing feedback
  from large scale deployments.  Nor does it _prevent_ anyone from
  creating small scale deployments anywhere in the world.  _all_ it
  states is that it is often cost effective to start small and grow as
  lessons have been learned.
 
  And yes, Christoph I _am_ holding your writing to a higher standard.
  Several times, you have described yourself as the voice of the
  project.
 
  david
 
   Extrapolating the data and drawing conclusions based on observations
   in
   a trial that represents less than 0,01% of all current Sugar
   installations is a risky endeavor at best and a serious mistake at
   worst. Even more so when the environment between the trial (in this
   case
   GPA) and the global deployments really couldn't be more different in
   just about every way imaginable (SoaS vs. XO, summer classes vs.
   regular
   year-long classes, Boston connectivity vs. Rwanda connectivity, 25
   installations in a school vs. 1000 installations in a school, US
   power
   infrastructure vs. Nepali power infrastructure, having a team
   consisting
   of Walter / Greg / Caroline supporting the efforts vs. being lucky to
   maybe have a single person who has used a computer before, 25 pupils
   in
   a classroom vs. 80 pupils in a classroom, users that were raised in
   urban North America vs. users who don't have electricity at home, and
   I
   could go on...).
  
   Yes, some of 

Re: [IAEP] Yet more feedback from Boston! - Chat and Speak

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:28, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote:
 Neither wind nor rain nor flaming emails will deter me from telling you
 about what happened with kids and Sugar today in Boston! You however are
 free to use your delete key at any time.
 Today, working with 6th grade students at the Museum of Science Computer
 Clubhouse I learned not to start a Sugar intro session with chat.  It was
 hard for us to believe but the kids spent 3 hours really wanting to do
 nothing but use chat to talk to other kids in the same room!!  We did get
 them to use other things but
 next time I will end with Chat, not start with it :)
 We used both Chat and Speak.  Chat was more robust.
 I suggest that Speak be limited to about 4 participants. It seemed die a lot and if someone typed a lot of garbdy gook it would try to say it all and get behind.  What do other people think of this idea? Should I ticket it?

Think so, we have had some discussion lately about this.

 I started the lesson by creating a chat, sharing it and showing the students
 how to join from their neighborhood. That worked fairly well.
 However, some of the students wanted to create a private chat.  It could be
 done but it was very challenging workflow.  The problem is if two kids
 decide they want to chat the natural thing for them to do is both goto Home
 and click on Chat and share that with the neighborhood.  This results in two
 chats and much confusion.  I don't know how to solve this, as I'm not gifted
 at UI design, but its clearly a problem.  Perhaps when you start chat you
 have a UI inside of chat that lets you join other existing chats directly.

Even if we have the discussion in the mailing list, would be nice to
have a ticket about this as well.

Thanks!

Tomeu

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[IAEP] community support

2009-08-14 Thread David Farning
http://getsatisfaction.com/sugarlabs is getting some questions from users.

If you are interest in community support, here is your chance:)

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Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread David Van Assche
Ok, I think what's happening here is a breakdown in communication. When I
used the term obvious, I was talking about Christoph's email... I was
stating that perhaps the message, as I understood it, was that we need more
data from the field... and that _the message_ was not obvious enough in the
email. I never meant that the feedback was not obvious enough... or that
developers were not doing enough to keep us informed.

I really hope this makes sense. I'm a little concerned that I have to be so
careful about wording. I sort of get the feeling that should one make any
type of constructive criticism, this is immediately construed as a threat,
and the person writing the criticism is forced to walk on egg shells.

I understand that talking about what can be done better, or what should have
been done that wasnt, etc causes very emotional responses because of the
time people have given to the project, but should we really just shut up
about this stuff? Or is there value to hearing people's opinions on how
things could be improved?

And on that note, I'd like to hear how I can improve gathering feedback for
our Autonomous region, based on methods currently in place elsewhere. What
I'm asking for is links to documentation that show how this has been done
till now in South America, Nepal and Asia, Africa, Europe. I've looked
around, but there is not too much information on the web. My idea is to try
and automate this as much as possible by creating a set of scripts, or
plugins that can measure stats and then send these (probably via xmpp)

Someone mentioned munin, but this doesn't really give user statistics much
though... its more of a network tool for servers for measuring performance,
resource usage, and graphing these. What I am talking about is digitising
the current manual feedback that is happening elsewhere (how many users
running which apps, lesson plans being used, languages, how many computers
requiring repairs, general problems people are running into, and generally
people's feelings on sugar usage, maybe even surveys)

kind regards,
David Van Assche

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:17, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying... all I said was we
 need
  more data from the field

 Well, I also understood that you said that it wasn't obvious enough.
 Which surprised me after all the noise lately about getting feedback.

 Anyway, I'm seeing feedback coming right now and also efforts to
 organize feedback gathering. So, let's do it!

 Regards,

 Tomeu

  I am in no way blaming anyone for not getting feedback, on the contrary,
 I
  am frustrated that the calls for feediback are not being heard enoguh,
 and I
  am well aware of people's efforts to try and get this feedback. What I am
  saying is that the feedback is not coming through does this make
 sense?
  Or are you saying the feedback is getting through and I'm just not seeing
  it?
 
  regards,
  David
 
  On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 15:51, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   H... I have to agree with Christoph here. I didn't really see it
 as
   being dramatic at all, but quite factual in fact. The western small
   deployments really don't give us any useful stats on what is happening
   on a
   larger scale in the third world.
 
  Ok, but will give some other interesting information, or not at all?
 
   And its important to acknowledge the
   differences between these, which Christoph listed quite concretely.
 
  And isn't this stating the obvious?
 
   I think
   what may not have come across obviously enough was that we need way
 more
   data from the field, in places where Sugar is being used on a large
   scale,
   and this data is just not getting to us. I for one, would love to have
   some
   cold hard facts about Sugar as used in South America and Africa.
 
  I'm quite appalled by this, you don't read the mailing lists where we
  make regular calls for feedback? Short from taking a plane and
  visiting school by school, I don't see what else I can do to get that
  feedback.
 
  You understand Spanish, search the olpc-sur mailing list for posts by
  Walter and me and tell here again if we don't ask for feedback.
 
  It's really frustrating that we are here spending our savings and time
  on this project, and not only the people deploying our software don't
  want to talk to us despite our requests, but other people still think
  we don't want to know about them.
 
  Frustratedly yours,
 
  Tomeu
 
   kind Regards,
   David Van Assche
  
   On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:21 PM, David Farning 
 dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
   wrote:
  
   On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Christoph
   Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
Sean DALY schrieb:
IMHO, close study of small deployments makes them incredibly
 useful
to

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 17:12, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, I think what's happening here is a breakdown in communication. When I
 used the term obvious, I was talking about Christoph's email... I was
 stating that perhaps the message, as I understood it, was that we need more
 data from the field... and that _the message_ was not obvious enough in the
 email. I never meant that the feedback was not obvious enough... or that
 developers were not doing enough to keep us informed.

Ok, I'm sorry about that. The thread was about feedback from GPA not
being relevant for the 99.99% of Sugar users, in case that helps
explain my reply.

 I really hope this makes sense. I'm a little concerned that I have to be so
 careful about wording. I sort of get the feeling that should one make any
 type of constructive criticism, this is immediately construed as a threat,
 and the person writing the criticism is forced to walk on egg shells.

 I understand that talking about what can be done better, or what should have
 been done that wasnt, etc causes very emotional responses because of the
 time people have given to the project, but should we really just shut up
 about this stuff? Or is there value to hearing people's opinions on how
 things could be improved?

I think you are right in that criticism is very important and I didn't
welcomed it properly, hope to improve on this.

 And on that note, I'd like to hear how I can improve gathering feedback for
 our Autonomous region, based on methods currently in place elsewhere. What
 I'm asking for is links to documentation that show how this has been done
 till now in South America, Nepal and Asia, Africa, Europe. I've looked
 around, but there is not too much information on the web. My idea is to try
 and automate this as much as possible by creating a set of scripts, or
 plugins that can measure stats and then send these (probably via xmpp)

 Someone mentioned munin, but this doesn't really give user statistics much
 though... its more of a network tool for servers for measuring performance,
 resource usage, and graphing these. What I am talking about is digitising
 the current manual feedback that is happening elsewhere (how many users
 running which apps, lesson plans being used, languages, how many computers
 requiring repairs, general problems people are running into, and generally
 people's feelings on sugar usage, maybe even surveys)

I would start by listing the kind of parameters for which we could use
quantitative data, then think about how we could gather it.

I remember an interesting thread in olpc-sur about assessment of the
plan ceibal, may be interesting to ask there for opinions.

Regards,

Tomeu

 kind regards,
 David Van Assche

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:17, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying... all I said was we
  need
  more data from the field

 Well, I also understood that you said that it wasn't obvious enough.
 Which surprised me after all the noise lately about getting feedback.

 Anyway, I'm seeing feedback coming right now and also efforts to
 organize feedback gathering. So, let's do it!

 Regards,

 Tomeu

  I am in no way blaming anyone for not getting feedback, on the contrary,
  I
  am frustrated that the calls for feediback are not being heard enoguh,
  and I
  am well aware of people's efforts to try and get this feedback. What I
  am
  saying is that the feedback is not coming through does this make
  sense?
  Or are you saying the feedback is getting through and I'm just not
  seeing
  it?
 
  regards,
  David
 
  On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 15:51, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   H... I have to agree with Christoph here. I didn't really see it
   as
   being dramatic at all, but quite factual in fact. The western small
   deployments really don't give us any useful stats on what is
   happening
   on a
   larger scale in the third world.
 
  Ok, but will give some other interesting information, or not at all?
 
   And its important to acknowledge the
   differences between these, which Christoph listed quite concretely.
 
  And isn't this stating the obvious?
 
   I think
   what may not have come across obviously enough was that we need way
   more
   data from the field, in places where Sugar is being used on a large
   scale,
   and this data is just not getting to us. I for one, would love to
   have
   some
   cold hard facts about Sugar as used in South America and Africa.
 
  I'm quite appalled by this, you don't read the mailing lists where we
  make regular calls for feedback? Short from taking a plane and
  visiting school by school, I don't see what else I can do to get that
  feedback.
 
  You understand Spanish, search the olpc-sur mailing list for posts by
  Walter and 

[IAEP] IN 5 MIN: Contributors Program Mtg! (Fri 2PM Boston time, #olpc-meeting)

2009-08-14 Thread Holt
Please join us in 5min reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community 
projects over IRC Live Chat:  (2PM EDT Boston Time Friday)

http://forum.laptop.org/chat

Then type at bottom:
/join #olpc-meeting


AGENDA:

* New projects  libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects#XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries

* Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring?!
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects
 http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27

* Fast Review of the 3 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please
 join us advocating for and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals:



1. Waadookodaading OLPC/Ojibwe Laptop Library - Wisconsin, USA
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=45715
  
http://www.waadookodaading.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=49Itemid=31


  Requests 10 XO's over 9+ months

  Project Objectives:
  Provide Children in grades K - 5 with
  computers they can check out and take home with them.

  These activities could be monitored by the check out
  procedures themselves.


2. MMEduGamePack Project - Brazil
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=45775
  http://www.mmeduproject.org (upcoming)
  http://sourceforge.net (to be announced)

  Requests 4 XO's over 15 months

  Project Objectives:
  1 - Integrate SDL and OpenCV to provide a multimodal interface using 
the laptop integrated video camera.

  2 - Build a multimodal SDL library for basic multimodal input routines.
  3 - Create a parser to generate SDL or PyGame source code (C++ or 
Python).
  4 - Develop a package of Multimodal Educational Mini Games 
(initially, 4 games).

  5 - Simplify the design process for game developers.
  6 - Simplify and expand user interaction using a multimodal interface
  7 - Give to the poor children a chance to interact with multimodal 
educational games using XO machines.



3. OLPC Bayern Library - Munich/Munchen, Germany (SECONDARY REVIEW WITH 
REPAIR SHOP, after last week's conditional approval)

  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=45454
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bayern (NEEDS REVISING)

  Requests 15 XO's over 18 months

  Project Objectives:
  Translate the english manuals into a German/understandable version.
  Examine the look and feel of the laptop and how to provide more
  useful online help on the laptop for the different target groups (eg.
  developer, child, teacher, other people...)
  Test the help and search for improve potential
  The idea of OLPC is good. To see what potential is possible in
  technical writer environment we will look on the system and
  seek to write useful help text for user.
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[IAEP] Google logo, Aug 14 Hans Christian Ørsted

2009-08-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
http://www.google.com/logos/

Compare

Jul 10, 2009

Birthday of Nikola Tesla - (Global)

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[IAEP] Request for new features for Measure

2009-08-14 Thread Claudia Urrea
Hello,

I have been working with the Measure activity for a while now, using
some un-expensive sensors (humidity, temperature, light, magnet, etc),
which can be connected to the Mic port. I would like to get two other
features added to measure.

1) Invert the curve of the reading of sensor:  Some of the resistive sensors
are Negative Temperature Coefficient (NTC), which means that the value
decrease in resistance when subjected to an increase in temperature,
humidity, etc. If teachers are working with young children, the value
may not be as important as the effect of the value rising at higher temp,
humidity, etc.

2) feedback when recording: While recording sensor value, there is no
feedback on the values that get recorded, and I often get questions from
teachers regarding this.. they asked me how they know that the values
that are saved into the .txt file are the values they see in Measure as they
never saw such values while playing with the sensors.

Please send me any questions... I hope these are things easy to
implement. I will be happy to give you some feedback and show you
some of the learning activities I have developed.

Thanks!

Claudia
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Re: [IAEP] Request for new features for Measure

2009-08-14 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Claudia Urreaclau...@laptop.org wrote:
 Hello,

 I have been working with the Measure activity for a while now, using
 some un-expensive sensors (humidity, temperature, light, magnet, etc),
 which can be connected to the Mic port. I would like to get two other
 features added to measure.

I'll add tickets for these.


 1) Invert the curve of the reading of sensor:  Some of the resistive sensors
 are Negative Temperature Coefficient (NTC), which means that the value
 decrease in resistance when subjected to an increase in temperature,
 humidity, etc. If teachers are working with young children, the value
 may not be as important as the effect of the value rising at higher temp,
 humidity, etc.

Shouldn't be too difficult to add.

 2) feedback when recording: While recording sensor value, there is no
 feedback on the values that get recorded, and I often get questions from
 teachers regarding this.. they asked me how they know that the values
 that are saved into the .txt file are the values they see in Measure as they
 never saw such values while playing with the sensors.

What sort of feedback do you mean? Is not the real-time display of the
data feedback? Or is it simply that they want reassurance that the
data is actually being recorded?


 Please send me any questions... I hope these are things easy to
 implement. I will be happy to give you some feedback and show you
 some of the learning activities I have developed.

 Thanks!

 Claudia
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[IAEP] New sugar meeting channel in Spanish

2009-08-14 Thread Pilar Saenz
Hi,

Thinking about how to involve more Spanish speakers into IRC meetings,
it's available a transbot between #sugar-meeting and the new
#sugar-reunion channels.
Spanish users can join #sugar-reunion and all sentences will be
translated to english into #sugar-meeting channel and vice versa.

Documentation in spanish
http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Transbot

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote:
 [snip]
  Or are you saying the feedback is getting through and I'm just not seeing
  it?
 
 We all seem to agree that feedback is important.
 
 We mostly agree that there is value in feedback from all deployments,
 big and small.
 
 We are currently getting valuable feedback from the field: Sur, the
 Ceibal blogs, reports from Nepal, Greg's reports from GPA, et al.
 
 We need more feedback and therefore we are exploring additional means
 of getting it. You ideas are welcome!
 

Perhaps a section in Sugar Digest with links to highlights of what went
on in deployments during the week?

Wearing a deployer-hat I must confess that we could (Paraguayan
Deployment Team) do a better job filing tickets, giving feedback, etc. 

Will try to keep discipline from now on :-)


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Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Kerr
I might try these next week and see how they go:
does altering the size of an object affect its drop time?
does joining objects together (large and small) affect drop time?
does altering the length of a pendulum affect its swing time?

before doing the above say what you think will happen
after doing the above say whether you think the physics program reflects
real world behaviour
(possibility of follow up real world experiments here)

design a catapult system to accurately hit
(a) stationary distant target (b) moving target (c) close target

build a complex or elegant building that doesn't fall down

other ideas along these lines?

*extra features I would like to see in physic*s:
copy shapes
move them while in setup mode
a timer

*icons*:
I think it would be better if the polygon icon looked like an irregular
shape rather than a regular hexagon

btw if there was a regular hexagon then you could use it to do some work
with tessellations in setup mode using the triangle, square, hexagon - if
you had the move feature in setup mode
eg. make a tessellation in setup mode and then support it so it doesn't fall
apart under gravity


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
 wrote:

 Yes, I think thats a good idea.  Also maybe its engineering principals not
 Physics that should be the learning objectives.
 What I'm realizing is that really I'm giving demos to teachers about h0w to
 use Sugar to support learning.  So what I want is a bunch of lessons using
 various different activities that are clearly aligned with any common
 curriculum objective.

 For Physics I think I want a really simple challenge that I can demo then
 have students solve it fairly quickly.  then I want a couple levels of
 additional challenge where students can solve problems in different ways.




 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote:

 one possibility would be to not attempt to teach physics but to make a
 game
 good for introduction and also for teamwork

 see
 http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html
  http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html
 http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/physics-games-screenshots_14.html

 http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/physics-games-screenshots_14.htmlthinking
 of extending to making a video of the game as per your suggestion here
 Caroline

  On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Caroline Meeks 
 carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote:

  Physics is so cool! One of the students today did a really great job
 with it:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nseWyxaN6g
 Does anyone have an idea for a 1 hour or so lesson I could do with
 Physics that would teach a Physics concept and still be incredibly engaging?

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Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-14 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 14 Aug 2009 7:40:30 pm Caroline Meeks wrote:
 For Physics I think I want a really simple challenge that I can demo then
 have students solve it fairly quickly.  then I want a couple levels of
 additional challenge where students can solve problems in different ways.
For best results, pick something from the students' immediate environment and 
get them to analyze it in detail. The fun is in creating models of real-life 
events and predicting their behavior under changes. Often times, getting a 
'false' answer reveals more than getting the 'right' answer so I wouldn't aim 
for a quick solution. See

 http://sikshana.blogspot.com/2008/09/magic-straw-of-kallahalli.html

It could be a bouncing baseball (why do subsequent peaks reduce in size. Is 
there a pattern in reduction?), building a pile of books (staircase style), 
why does it collapse? play of light on shadows, motion of strikers on carrom 
coins and so on.

Subbu
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