Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] volunteer translators needed
A selection of these materials are available for localization via our Pootle server now, with more to come. http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/Waveplace/ cjl On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Timothy Falconer tee...@waveplace.orgwrote: Hi partners and friends, We're looking for a little help with our Waveplace courseware. We're hoping to get it all translated into: Haitian Creole French Spanish Portuguese Our funds are limited, so I wanted to know if you have any volunteers who could possibly help in this effort. Our courseware is located at http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Courseware. So far, the lessons we have finished are: General--Basic Etoys http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Basic+Etoys (needs outlines and projects translated) Language Arts--Storytellinghttp://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Storytelling (needs outlines translated) Mathematics--Geometry http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Geometry (needs outlines and projects translated) Science-- Motion http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Motion (needs projects translated) Health-- Clean water http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Clean+Water (unfinished but can translate what projects are finished) Health-- Malaria http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Malaria (unfinished but can outlines in the meantime) Technology--Sugar http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Sugar (needs outlines translated) As you can see, it's a bit of work. Many things are already translated into Haitian Creole, but not everything. Please let me know if you can offer any help to us! Thanks so much! -- Timothy Falconer Waveplace Foundation http://waveplace.org + 1 610 797 3100 x33 ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Photos from EduJAM!
Here's my codew'z photostream for the EduJAM! 2011 event: http://codewiz.org/wiki/pictures/conf/EduJAM-2011 Many thanks to the organizers for their quality work, it was a very productive and fun event. -- Bernie Innocenti Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] OERs and collaboration
How to generate the best collaborative environment to provide educators with effective access and adaption of resources across a broad spectrum of curriculum areas and age-appropriate activities? Oh, yes - it must allow for casual contributions without the need for labor intensive moderation and editing and dispute resolution. Everyone talks about OERs - collaboration, adoption. adaption but there isn't really as much activity as there ought to be given the interest, time and money that have gone into discussion these education revolutionizing ideas. This is something that has been needed for many years and still hasn't materialized. Perhaps the Replacing Textbooks program can address some of the functionality. A wiki-based solution could work. Although people are willing to contribute and collaborate, there is a reluctance to change the work of others without some explicit authority to do so. This has been a frustration with WikiEducator - even with notations that collaboration is invited, there are no contributions. There is a frustration with Wikipedia contributions that are promptly removed by the editor. Perhaps there is some middle ground. The idea of comments on a blog post works out pretty well. The commenter augments the information in the post, without modifying the original text. In the Sugar Labs wiki, there are entries for all the Activities which could serve as the basis for the collaborative framework. How about a forms/template based contribution function that will add sections to a wiki entry? For example, I came up with a sixth grade math activity based on Turtle Art and I would like to share it. It would be nice to add this to an inventory of middle school math activities connected to Turtle Art. Others could then find my activity and others based on a search for middle school, math and/or Activity:Turtle Art. Just thinking... Would something like this overcome potential contributors' resistance and get the ball rolling? ;o) Other ideas? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Valerie Taylor vtay...@gmail.com wrote: How to generate the best collaborative environment to provide educators with effective access and adaption of resources across a broad spectrum of curriculum areas and age-appropriate activities? Oh, yes - it must allow for casual contributions without the need for labor intensive moderation and editing and dispute resolution. Everyone talks about OERs - collaboration, adoption. adaption but there isn't really as much activity as there ought to be given the interest, time and money that have gone into discussion these education revolutionizing ideas. This is something that has been needed for many years and still hasn't materialized. Perhaps the Replacing Textbooks program can address some of the functionality. A wiki-based solution could work. Although people are willing to contribute and collaborate, there is a reluctance to change the work of others without some explicit authority to do so. This has been a frustration with WikiEducator - even with notations that collaboration is invited, there are no contributions. There is a frustration with Wikipedia contributions that are promptly removed by the editor. Perhaps there is some middle ground. The idea of comments on a blog post works out pretty well. The commenter augments the information in the post, without modifying the original text. In the Sugar Labs wiki, there are entries for all the Activities which could serve as the basis for the collaborative framework. How about a forms/template based contribution function that will add sections to a wiki entry? For example, I came up with a sixth grade math activity based on Turtle Art and I would like to share it. It would be nice to add this to an inventory of middle school math activities connected to Turtle Art. Others could then find my activity and others based on a search for middle school, math and/or Activity:Turtle Art. I would love to see what you have been doing. I assume you have seen Tony Forster's blog and the pages we have made in the wiki regarding different TA projects around STEM? regards. -walter Just thinking... Would something like this overcome potential contributors' resistance and get the ball rolling? ;o) Other ideas? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: Sugar Lab
Noy Shoung says he has about a hundred Cambodians ready and willing to work on localization and translation projects, for which he will be Administrator/Project Manager/Training Manager/whatever. I am blogging a bit more information, which will appear shortly on Planet Sugar. More news to follow. -- Forwarded message -- From: Noy Shoung noysho...@gmail.com Date: Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:35 Subject: Sugar Lab To: ខ្មែរជុំឡា khmerjoomla.org khmerjoo...@googlegroups.com, khme...@googlegroups.com, khmerfoss khmerf...@googlegroups.com Cc: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Dear all members and colleagues I am very proud of Edward Cherlin, who is always trying to help education tools for children around the world for example OLPC, Sugar Localization project FLOSS Manuals Textbook replacing etc Please help to make it happen by contributing your time here http://translate.flossmanuals.net http://translate.sugarlabs.org/km/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks If you need any help please contact me directly or contact Edward in this cc copy email Your value time and input, hard work will credit forever, Best regards Noy -- Noy Shoung POOR CAN HELP, BUT LAZY CAN'T HELP Phnom Penh, Cambodia skype: noyshoung mobile +855-1771- email noysho...@gmail.com GOD WILL HELP YOU IF YOU HELP YOURSELF -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [learningfromeachother] Qato platform for knowledge sharing; Africa?
Does anybody here know about Qato? Does anybody know of a Free Software alternative? Math Future has some interest in the Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks project, but has not grasped the importance of Free Software in all phases of the work. -- Forwarded message -- From: m...@ms.lt Date: Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:51 Subject: [learningfromeachother] Qato platform for knowledge sharing; Africa? To: learningfromeachot...@yahoogroups.com Cc: droujk...@gmail.com, pam54...@googlemail.com Pamela, I saw this letter by Maria Droujkova and I thought of you. Maria leads Math Future, http://www.naturalmath.com which is an organic and extensive community of math educators and students, online and locally. This might give you ideas how technology is developing and may become relevant for your online workspace http://www.dadamac.net I also introduce you to Maria in case she has projects that link up with Africa, especially Nigeria. Andrius Kulikauskas, m...@ms.lt --- http://groups.google.com/group/mathfuture/ I am happy to announce Math Future received a corporate sponsorship offer from DZone, a technology publishing company. We will now have an instance of their new, enterprise-class platform for knowledge sharing, called Qato. This answers to the needs of Math Future as a network of communities. Consider the network structure of Math Future, which I won't attempt to diagram because of multiple dimensions. It consists of groups with dense connections (everybody talking with everybody), but also more loose and distributed conversations among the groups, as well as some communities with distributed conversations within. Between groups formed by projects, communities and topics of interest, there is much overlap, as people participate in multiple threads. Groups may be long-term, such as the math game group, or short-term, such as School of the Math Future courses that run for a few weeks. The are also flash mobs that get together around a one-time topic. It is frustrating trying to have that sort of communication through a forum structure, such as email groups, as many of you noted. When people communicate, they need to subscribe to multiple groups and topics, but not all of them: following a book making or a book review group, a seminar, a presentation discussion, a brainstorm about a math game, and so on. Larger topics and groups need to form sub-topics and sub-groups, which in turn may not involve everybody. Some of the groups involved with Math Future use our webinar room for their one-time or regular meetings, which any project organizer is welcome to do as long as meetings are open. This is supported by Web 2.0 Labs and LearnCentral (Steve Hargadon) sponsorship. During the events, as we ask project leaders The Question, What does your project need and how can people help? their answers involve spreading the word and aggregating communication. Some of the projects don't have any social platforms, or only have email lists, though leaders usually participate in other projects' communities. Currently, Math Future members help with such needs by hand, so to speak, through email or their blogs and microblogs. This is better than nothing, but it does not scale well. Qato supports Quora-like interface, but also groups and subgroups within the community. People can follow particular groups for ongoing collaborations, and tags for inter-group communication, and individual topics for one-time discussions. This architecture will allow us to support the book projects, conferences, and mathematics education communities much better, because it matches the way Math Future rolls. Excited and hopeful, Maria Droujkova Make math your own, to make your own math. Each letter sent to Learning From Each Other enters the PUBLIC DOMAIN unless it explicitly states otherwise http://www.ethicalpublicdomain.org Please be kind to our authors!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/learningfromeachother/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/learningfromeachother/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: learningfromeachother-dig...@yahoogroups.com learningfromeachother-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: learningfromeachother-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
Hello Everybody! I'm studying at the University of teacher education in graz in austria to become a teacher for primary school. For my final thesis I'm working in a class with olpcs to find out which programmes can be used in the subjects of science. I worked with FotoToon, Labyrinth, InfoSlicer and many more. The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! And we have no chance to print out anything we worked on! Can anybody help us? Nice greets Johanna Wener ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
You can save your work in Fototoon as a image to print in another computer. Press the secondary mouse button in the Keep button. What is not working saving screenshots and sending by mail? You cant create the screenshot or you can't send a attachment? Have you tried copying in a pen drive? Gonzalo On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Johanna Wener johanna.we...@chello.atwrote: Hello Everybody! I’m studying at the University of teacher education in graz in austria to become a teacher for primary school. For my final thesis I’m working in a class with olpcs to find out which programmes can be used in the subjects of science. I worked with FotoToon, Labyrinth, InfoSlicer and many more. The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail – doesnt work! And we have no chance to print out anything we worked on! Can anybody help us? Nice greets Johanna Wener ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
Excerpts from Johanna Wener's message of Thu May 12 21:08:31 +0200 2011: The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. I expect others to reply to the educational part of that sentence (i.e. is there a better way to reach your goals than consuming lots of energy, water and trees?). We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! What exactly have you tried and how did it fail? Walters brand-new Portfolio activity [1] has support for exporting selected, annotated Journal entries as HTML. You could save it to a USB stick, open the HTML file on a computer with an attached printer and print from within the browser. If you install CUPS on the system running Sugar (probably an XO judging from the subject), you can use a browser other than Browse to print locally. Or you can copy the Journal entry to the regular file system using copy-to-journal and print using the lpr command from within Terminal. A whole bunch of other options would combine the following: 1. Acquiring a printable file: a) take a screenshot by pressing Alt+1 b) some activities can export as PDF c) some activities can export as HTML d) some activities use a file format that can be read by non-Sugar applications (e.g. Write uses ODT, native file format of LibreOffice nee OpenOffice) e) Write 73 can export to PDF, so you could try using the clipboard to import content into Write and export as PDF 2. Transferring the file to Gnome or a different computer: a) copy to a USB stick, SD card or USB hard disk using the Journal b) using copy-from-journal from within Terminal to copy the Journal entry to the home directory (so Gnome can access it) c) using datastore-fuse [3] to access the Journal entry from within Gnome (experimental - you might need help from a techie) d) uploading the files to some web site (Moodle, wiki, photo gallery like Flickr, pastebin site, ...) and accessing that site from the computer with the printer. 3. Printing from within Gnome or on a different computer running a desktop system other than Sugar: a) for PDF and ODT just opening the file and printing from within the PDF viewer resp. word processor should usually work well enough. b) for HTML use a browser. You might need to tweak some options to get pretty output. I've seen browsers cutting a line of text in half; hopefully that's fixed by now. c) Gimp is pretty good for printing images, though it could be a bit overwhelming. d) CUPS understands several file formats natively (including images); just type lpr name_of_the_file.jpg (without the quotes). I'd love to tell you to download the Print activity [2] and print directly from within Sugar, but unfortunately I haven't managed to get it to work yet. However, the above options hopefully get you unblocked now; we can work on better solutions later. Sascha [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4437 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-August/thread.html#18173 [3] http://git.sugarlabs.org/datastore-fuse -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Valerie Taylor vtay...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it was Tony's blog that got me thinking about how to make the wiki entries more additive with templates/forms (rather than wiki-style edit everything). His blog entry would be great as a section or page or link associated with Activity:Turtle Art. More connectivity and networking to facilitate retrieval, adoption, adaption, contribution and collaboration. Annotated bookmarks Diigo, Delicious address some of the problems associated with making existing OERs retrievable but it is hard to limit vocabulary or require all categories types be provided. I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, and build on that in a systematic way. We are not exactly systematic about it, but Tony links to his most relevant blog posts in the wiki. Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Tutorials and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors As far as how to make these posts have more impact, we are open to suggestions. thanks. -walter It wouldn't diminish the contribution that Tony is making via his own blog, but it would focus activities of retrieval and casual contribution into a really useful framework with examples, guided contributions, peer review, adaptive uses, technical support... On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Valerie Taylor vtay...@gmail.com wrote: How to generate the best collaborative environment to provide educators with effective access and adaption of resources ... -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [FM Discuss] Fwd: Sugar Lab
This is excellent work. Well done. Tim McNamara | @timClicks http://twitter.com/timClicks | timmcnamara.co.nz On 13 May 2011 04:56, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Noy Shoung says he has about a hundred Cambodians ready and willing to work on localization and translation projects, for which he will be Administrator/Project Manager/Training Manager/whatever. I am blogging a bit more information, which will appear shortly on Planet Sugar. More news to follow. -- Forwarded message -- From: Noy Shoung noysho...@gmail.com Date: Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:35 Subject: Sugar Lab To: ខ្មែរជុំឡា khmerjoomla.org khmerjoo...@googlegroups.com, khme...@googlegroups.com, khmerfoss khmerf...@googlegroups.com Cc: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Dear all members and colleagues I am very proud of Edward Cherlin, who is always trying to help education tools for children around the world for example OLPC, Sugar Localization project FLOSS Manuals Textbook replacing etc Please help to make it happen by contributing your time here http://translate.flossmanuals.net http://translate.sugarlabs.org/km/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks If you need any help please contact me directly or contact Edward in this cc copy email Your value time and input, hard work will credit forever, Best regards Noy -- Noy Shoung POOR CAN HELP, BUT LAZY CAN'T HELP Phnom Penh, Cambodia skype: noyshoung mobile +855-1771- email noysho...@gmail.com GOD WILL HELP YOU IF YOU HELP YOURSELF -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ Discuss mailing list disc...@lists.flossmanuals.net http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
Sascha, I am afraid Johanna is merely being honest to what is a very widespread misconception. Even Walter Bender has challenged me to invent a charcoal-based printer. And that was in response to my assertion, which I am happy to repeat any time it is needed, that the lack of printer support by the XO is indeed a very valuable feature, not a bug. I do agree with you about the huge and totally unnecessary waste of energy and water that printing would entail. However, most teachers and so-called education systems are paper-based. That is one among many ugly realities we have to deal with, a cognitive dissonance that hinders the success to a new POV for education. Moreover, even when digital-based, people are not on the same page, a still valid expression... It was recently mentioned by a Uruguayan teacher that the forms that are being sent to be filled out by teachers by their national administration are MS Office documents, thus cannot be worked (easily) in the XO! Of course I insist you are right that from a real education point of view printing is mostly irrelevant, *compared to* the possibilities of collaboration, the web, etc. But that is, *compared*... :-(. If teachers and students are not using those opportunities either, then it is only natural that only what is inked on paper is worth anything. So, are they using those opportunities? a simple example: by the end of 2009, Uruguay had over 366.000 laptop http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Ceibals or so in the hands of teachers and students, and available to be used by their families, etc. *However*, by May 15 of 2010, there were only 162 Wikipedia http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_en_espa%C3%B1ol#Colaboradores colaboradores from Uruguay! One for every hundred teachers, or one per every 2.000 students and their families... As long as we cannot change this kind of approach to the XO or any other such tool, teachers will, indeed, need to print. On 05/12/2011 03:19 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Johanna Wener's message of Thu May 12 21:08:31 +0200 2011: The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. I expect others to reply to the educational part of that sentence (i.e. is there a better way to reach your goals than consuming lots of energy, water and trees?). We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! What exactly have you tried and how did it fail? Walters brand-new Portfolio activity [1] has support for exporting selected, annotated Journal entries as HTML. You could save it to a USB stick, open the HTML file on a computer with an attached printer and print from within the browser. If you install CUPS on the system running Sugar (probably an XO judging from the subject), you can use a browser other than Browse to print locally. Or you can copy the Journal entry to the regular file system using copy-to-journal and print using the lpr command from within Terminal. A whole bunch of other options would combine the following: 1. Acquiring a printable file: a) take a screenshot by pressingAlt+1 b) some activities can export as PDF c) some activities can export as HTML d) some activities use a file format that can be read by non-Sugar applications (e.g. Write uses ODT, native file format of LibreOffice nee OpenOffice) e) Write 73 can export to PDF, so you could try using the clipboard to import content into Write and export as PDF 2. Transferring the file to Gnome or a different computer: a) copy to a USB stick, SD card or USB hard disk using the Journal b) using copy-from-journal from within Terminal to copy the Journal entry to the home directory (so Gnome can access it) c) using datastore-fuse [3] to access the Journal entry from within Gnome (experimental - you might need help from a techie) d) uploading the files to some web site (Moodle, wiki, photo gallery like Flickr, pastebin site, ...) and accessing that site from the computer with the printer. 3. Printing from within Gnome or on a different computer running a desktop system other than Sugar: a) for PDF and ODT just opening the file and printing from within the PDF viewer resp. word processor should usually work well enough. b) for HTML use a browser. You might need to tweak some options to get pretty output. I've seen browsers cutting a line of text in half; hopefully that's fixed by now. c) Gimp is pretty good for printing images, though it could be a bit overwhelming. d) CUPS understands several file formats natively (including images); just type lpr name_of_the_file.jpg (without the quotes). I'd love to tell you to download the Print activity [2] and print directly from within Sugar, but unfortunately I haven't managed to get it to work yet. However, the above
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
Thanks, Sascha. All of this goes into The Undiscoverable, and later into Sugar documentation. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable On Thu, May 12, 2011 4:19 pm, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Johanna Wener's message of Thu May 12 21:08:31 +0200 2011: The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. I expect others to reply to the educational part of that sentence (i.e. is there a better way to reach your goals than consuming lots of energy, water and trees?). We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! What exactly have you tried and how did it fail? Walters brand-new Portfolio activity [1] has support for exporting selected, annotated Journal entries as HTML. You could save it to a USB stick, open the HTML file on a computer with an attached printer and print from within the browser. If you install CUPS on the system running Sugar (probably an XO judging from the subject), you can use a browser other than Browse to print locally. Or you can copy the Journal entry to the regular file system using copy-to-journal and print using the lpr command from within Terminal. A whole bunch of other options would combine the following: 1. Acquiring a printable file: a) take a screenshot by pressing Alt+1 b) some activities can export as PDF c) some activities can export as HTML d) some activities use a file format that can be read by non-Sugar applications (e.g. Write uses ODT, native file format of LibreOffice nee OpenOffice) e) Write 73 can export to PDF, so you could try using the clipboard to import content into Write and export as PDF 2. Transferring the file to Gnome or a different computer: a) copy to a USB stick, SD card or USB hard disk using the Journal b) using copy-from-journal from within Terminal to copy the Journal entry to the home directory (so Gnome can access it) c) using datastore-fuse [3] to access the Journal entry from within Gnome (experimental - you might need help from a techie) d) uploading the files to some web site (Moodle, wiki, photo gallery like Flickr, pastebin site, ...) and accessing that site from the computer with the printer. 3. Printing from within Gnome or on a different computer running a desktop system other than Sugar: a) for PDF and ODT just opening the file and printing from within the PDF viewer resp. word processor should usually work well enough. b) for HTML use a browser. You might need to tweak some options to get pretty output. I've seen browsers cutting a line of text in half; hopefully that's fixed by now. c) Gimp is pretty good for printing images, though it could be a bit overwhelming. d) CUPS understands several file formats natively (including images); just type lpr name_of_the_file.jpg (without the quotes). I'd love to tell you to download the Print activity [2] and print directly from within Sugar, but unfortunately I haven't managed to get it to work yet. However, the above options hopefully get you unblocked now; we can work on better solutions later. Sascha [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4437 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-August/thread.html#18173 [3] http://git.sugarlabs.org/datastore-fuse -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
On Thu, May 12, 2011 9:05 pm, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: Sascha, I am afraid Johanna is merely being honest to what is a very widespread misconception. Even Walter Bender has challenged me to invent a charcoal-based printer. And that was in response to my assertion, which I am happy to repeat any time it is needed, that the lack of printer support by the XO is indeed a very valuable feature, not a bug. Agreed. I do agree with you about the huge and totally unnecessary waste of energy and water that printing would entail. However, most teachers and so-called education systems are paper-based. That is one among many ugly realities we have to deal with, a cognitive dissonance that hinders the success to a new POV for education. Moreover, even when digital-based, people are not on the same page, a still valid expression... It was recently mentioned by a Uruguayan teacher that the forms that are being sent to be filled out by teachers by their national administration are MS Office documents, thus cannot be worked (easily) in the XO! I don't suppose PLAN Ceibal can influence other parts of the government when it would upset their careful arrangements. But what will happen when these millions of children get out of school and into the world of work and government? Of course I insist you are right that from a real education point of view printing is mostly irrelevant, *compared to* the possibilities of collaboration, the web, etc. But that is, *compared*... :-(. If teachers and students are not using those opportunities either, then it is only natural that only what is inked on paper is worth anything. So, are they using those opportunities? a simple example: by the end of 2009, Uruguay had over 366.000 laptop http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Ceibals or so in the hands of teachers and students, and available to be used by their families, etc. *However*, by May 15 of 2010, there were only 162 Wikipedia http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_en_espa%C3%B1ol#Colaboradores colaboradores from Uruguay! One for every hundred teachers, or one per every 2.000 students and their families... Yama, you and I should create a set of lesson plans in English and Spanish for language students to translate Wikipedia pages, and for students of every subject to improve Wikipedia pages in Spanish. My plan is that in the beginning, every student gets assigned the same page to improve, and the class votes on which of the various improvements gets made as a class contribution. Individual students and whole classes should have user accounts in order to provide correct attribution of contributions. Later on, students can be assigned to pick a page needing work, with a requirement to show what needed improving, what improvements were made, and how the student knows that they are improvements. The last requirement will require students to learn how to evaluate source material, among other things. As long as we cannot change this kind of approach to the XO or any other such tool, teachers will, indeed, need to print. On 05/12/2011 03:19 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Johanna Wener's message of Thu May 12 21:08:31 +0200 2011: The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. It is straightforward to share Journal entries between XOs. That needs to be a lesson for children, and part of teacher training also. Printing is not necessary. I expect others to reply to the educational part of that sentence (i.e. is there a better way to reach your goals than consuming lots of energy, water and trees?). We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! What exactly have you tried and how did it fail? Walters brand-new Portfolio activity [1] has support for exporting selected, annotated Journal entries as HTML. You could save it to a USB stick, open the HTML file on a computer with an attached printer and print from within the browser. If you install CUPS on the system running Sugar (probably an XO judging from the subject), you can use a browser other than Browse to print locally. Or you can copy the Journal entry to the regular file system using copy-to-journal and print using the lpr command from within Terminal. A whole bunch of other options would combine the following: 1. Acquiring a printable file: a) take a screenshot by pressingAlt+1 b) some activities can export as PDF c) some activities can export as HTML d) some activities use a file format that can be read by non-Sugar applications (e.g. Write uses ODT, native file format of LibreOffice nee OpenOffice) e) Write 73 can export to PDF, so you could try using the clipboard to import content into Write and export as PDF 2. Transferring the file to Gnome or a different computer: a) copy to a USB stick, SD card or USB hard disk using the
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
On Thu, May 12, 2011 3:08 pm, Johanna Wener wrote: Hello Everybody! I'm studying at the University of teacher education in graz in austria to become a teacher for primary school. For my final thesis I'm working in a class with olpcs to find out which programmes can be used in the subjects of science. I would like to offer my help. My degree is in Mathematics Philosophy, including philosophy and history of science, and courses in Physics, Biology, and Chemistry. Ich kann auch etwas Deutsch. I worked with FotoToon, Labyrinth, InfoSlicer and many more. Calculator, Measure, Record, the Python and Smalltalk programming languages, SocialCalc, Physics, Turtle Blocks...I particularly like Measure for acoustics. You can set it to frequency domain and show the overtones of any note on any musical instrument. The fundamental discovery of Pythagoras was that harmonious intervals on a plucked string corresponded to ratios of small integers. The octave is a ratio of 2 to 1, and the fifth (C to G, for example) is a ratio of 3 to 2 in length (and 2 to 3 in frequency). See Alan Kay's use of turtle graphics in Smalltalk to make a simulation of constant acceleration, Record to capture a video of a falling object, and Smalltalk or Scratch to select frames from the video at fixed intervals. The results of the simulation and the video show the same pattern. I expanded this in Turtle Art (now Turtle Blocks) to show the effect of adding constant sideways motion, which gives parabolas, and added photos of parabolic water fountains. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/0e/Gravity.odt The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. This turns out not to be the case. While printing is useful for making public exhibitions, it is not required for sharing anything that you can save in the Journal. The Collaboration feature allows students to share a session and save a copy to their own Journals. We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! The Undiscoverable http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable Screen capture An important use case for the Keep button. How do we store just the image, without the software state? Some Activities, including Turtle Art, have a button for this purpose. Alt + 1 captures the screen and stores a screenshot in the Journal. See this discussion thread for techniques useful for special situations when a time-delayed capture may be needed, http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg17591.html And we have no chance to print out anything we worked on! Can anybody help us? Nice greets Johanna Wener ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Free laptops all very well but ..
On Wed, May 11, 2011 7:08 pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/free-laptops-all-very-well-but-how-best-to-use-them-in-testing-times-20110511-1eitv.html initiatives that focus primarily on the provision of computers are not successful because the computers aren't used to their full potential ... Putting computers in classrooms is a good first step. But it's the easiest step. If we genuinely want this technology to help students then we must look beyond the rhetoric of the computer companies and the politicians. I'm with you so far. The federal government needs to start working with schools to map how computers can be successful in the complicated environments in which they have been placed. No, emphatically no, neither in Australia, or the US, or anywhere else except possibly Bhutan. The US Federal government hasn't a clue what real education is. They cannot fund the research we need, because they have, officially, no imagination in this area. Things were different in the heyday of DARPA, but nobody gets to hand out money any more just because somebody has an interesting idea. I cannot believe from external indications that the Australian government has any more of a clue on this. We've got the equipment. Let's shift focus to the real stuff, learning, and how we can realistically take that to the next level. Absolutely. But keep governments out of it until after we know what we are trying to do. Maybe even then. For the sake of our students, the government must clarify the type of learning it wants to take place in our schools, and how computers can be used to support this. And please, let's not allow these decisions to be made without consulting schools, teachers and students. You see, there is the contradiction. Let us consult with schools, teachers, and students ourselves. This is the aim of the Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks project, which aims to create Open Education Resources (OER) taking advantage of computer capabilities. Not just PDFs of dead-tree textbooks. We no longer live in the age of students learning the same lesson from the same government-approved book on the same day, and nothing else. We live in an Age of Information, where we are awash in connections. And yet schoolchildren are kept almost entirely out of it, for fear of pedophiles. We need their help to make it work. Australia is relying on it. Dr Joanne Orlando is a lecturer in education at the University of Western Sydney. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
