Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
Sorry, yesterday I lost connectivity at the meeting time. There are a log? Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: The first Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting will be at 6PM EST (23 UTC) on Monday, January 7. We'll be meeting in #sugar-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Please join us and greet our new board members: Daniel Francis, Claudia Urrea, and Gonzalo Odiard. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2013-01-07T23:06:56 I'll prepare the minutes in the wiki later today. regards. -walter On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Sorry, yesterday I lost connectivity at the meeting time. There are a log? Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: The first Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting will be at 6PM EST (23 UTC) on Monday, January 7. We'll be meeting in #sugar-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Please join us and greet our new board members: Daniel Francis, Claudia Urrea, and Gonzalo Odiard. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
The detailed minutes are available [1]. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2013-01-07 regards. -walter On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Sorry, yesterday I lost connectivity at the meeting time. There are a log? Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: The first Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting will be at 6PM EST (23 UTC) on Monday, January 7. We'll be meeting in #sugar-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Please join us and greet our new board members: Daniel Francis, Claudia Urrea, and Gonzalo Odiard. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
Thanks Walter, I want share two ideas to discuss may be in the next meeting: * I want to organize, with guys from UY something related with Python Joven, the work Flavio Danesse has been doing in the last 2 or 3 years. Flavio is doing a very good job, in fact, all, or almost all new hackers in UY, participated in these events (please Daniel correct me if I am wrong). I was in Flavio's house one month ago, talking with him, trying to see how this success can be reproduced, but is not so easy. Anyway, we need see how we can help put more events like this in movement, the more difficult part is get teachers involved. From our part, we can give them visibility, and help get them (teachers and hackers) introduced in the community. We know how important is have guys like Agustin, Daniel and a few more, involved. If you ask me, I think future Sugar relevance is linked to the next hackers generation. * I want work in a web view of the Journal, may be first as a activity, but later integrated in Sugar. If we have this working, I think we can improve the social side of sugar, making easier show results, add comments, likes, etc. If we can have this webview working in the schoolserver too, and sync all the related data, can be a first step in the cloud direction, and is not so difficult to start. I share this here, because is only a idea right now, and may be is related to the comment from Walter. See you Gonzalo On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2013-01-07T23:06:56 I'll prepare the minutes in the wiki later today. regards. -walter On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Sorry, yesterday I lost connectivity at the meeting time. There are a log? Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: The first Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting will be at 6PM EST (23 UTC) on Monday, January 7. We'll be meeting in #sugar-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Please join us and greet our new board members: Daniel Francis, Claudia Urrea, and Gonzalo Odiard. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] public log of Activities being started Re: [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
Gonzalo, do you think it were possible to somehow push into the server (and then up to the Internet) suitably anonymous data that tells at least what activities have been started (at least a count within a timeframe, say, every week)? As part of this cloud effort? Reason: After all these years, we have not yet much reliable data on whether the XO or Sugar is used or not, or what it is used for, if at all. Background: I have long suspected that there has been no desire for this data, because it might show bad news, like Sugar or the XOs being used little or not at all. However, if that were the case, then we *really, really* need it so much more, so we can re-direct efforts. Likely issues: About anonymity: I am unsure how much the matter of privacy is a valid excuse for not getting this data. Since it seems OK to have the tablets distributed in Ethiopia take pictures of the kids and families very much without their informed consent, I guess that having data on what Activities get started, how many times per week would be totally OK, but still believe privacy should be taken seriously, yet without paranoia. (no, I do not think those automatic pictures are OK, but that's my personal opinion). On 01/08/2013 03:19 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Thanks Walter, I want share two ideas to discuss may be in the next meeting: * I want to organize, with guys from UY something related with Python Joven, the work Flavio Danesse has been doing in the last 2 or 3 years. Flavio is doing a very good job, in fact, all, or almost all new hackers in UY, participated in these events (please Daniel correct me if I am wrong). I was in Flavio's house one month ago, talking with him, trying to see how this success can be reproduced, but is not so easy. Anyway, we need see how we can help put more events like this in movement, the more difficult part is get teachers involved. From our part, we can give them visibility, and help get them (teachers and hackers) introduced in the community. We know how important is have guys like Agustin, Daniel and a few more, involved. If you ask me, I think future Sugar relevance is linked to the next hackers generation. * I want work in a web view of the Journal, may be first as a activity, but later integrated in Sugar. If we have this working, I think we can improve the social side of sugar, making easier show results, add comments, likes, etc. If we can have this webview working in the schoolserver too, and sync all the related data, can be a first step in the cloud direction, and is not so difficult to start. I share this here, because is only a idea right now, and may be is related to the comment from Walter. See you Gonzalo On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2013-01-07T23:06:56 I'll prepare the minutes in the wiki later today. regards. -walter On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org mailto:gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Sorry, yesterday I lost connectivity at the meeting time. There are a log? Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: The first Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting will be at 6PM EST (23 UTC) on Monday, January 7. We'll be meeting in #sugar-meeting on irc.freenode.net http://irc.freenode.net. Please join us and greet our new board members: Daniel Francis, Claudia Urrea, and Gonzalo Odiard. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] School Server Hack Sprint (Feb 7-11, Toronto)
Thanks all as we're approaching capacity with about 5 Americans and 5 Canadians RSVP'd! (but if you have more exotic citizenship+passports we'll certainly make a place for you, don't worry, contact me soon regardless =) Strategy? Our meeting will focus on a shippable/solid school server () serving large deployments as well as community schools. No matter how close we get to painfree network-configuration. Even if much-desired features from the following list don't all ship in the end: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aki16JhXo4mEdEU1MzA5OGJuOERtbGxHSkxzT2ZFSGc See you in a month! On 1/4/2013 2:20 AM, Holt wrote: Details emerging in coming days/weeks @ *http://schoolserver.org* Please join Jerry Vonau, George Hunt, Anna Schoolfield, Tim Moody, Rodrigo Hartmann and others advancing their XS Community Edition ebook/content efforts towards community customers XS 0.8. Toronto/UWaterloo-area accommodations, home cooking personal pickup from Toronto/Buffalo/Detroit airports may be free if I believe in your work, _plz RSVP today if you're interested in attending, thanks much !_ Those with ongoing School Server projects consider arriving 1-2 nights in advance to polish your work, working alongside others who genuinely give a damn! Prior to the larger group arriving Thur Feb 7 thru Monday Feb 11. Or stick around an extra night to complete your task. EG. several of us Might Even drive to Birmingham, Alabama Feb 13/14 to give Valentine Love to the unheralded XO/XS work ongoing in small pockets of the western world / OECD's largest (if in many ways sadly defunct) XO deployment. Where I personally had the great fortune to get an inside glimpse at this evolving 21st century civil rights movement over much of December... -- Help kids everywhere map their world, athttp://olpcMAP.net ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:19:13 -0300 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks Walter, I want share two ideas to discuss may be in the next meeting: * I want to organize, with guys from UY something related with Python Joven, the work Flavio Danesse has been doing in the last 2 or 3 years. Flavio is doing a very good job, in fact, all, or almost all new hackers in UY, participated in these events (please Daniel correct me if I am wrong). All new hackers in .UY subscribed to the Sugar Labs/OLPC mailing lists participated in at least one event. We live in the same country, but not in the same city/town. I was in Flavio's house one month ago, talking with him, trying to see how this success can be reproduced, but is not so easy. It's as easy as trying to teach students to play a musical instrument in a school classroom. Some few students may feel it easy and fun, but not all of them. Anyway, we need see how we can help put more events like this in movement, the more difficult part is get teachers involved. +1 * I want work in a web view of the Journal, may be first as a activity, but later integrated in Sugar. If we have this working, I think we can improve the social side of sugar, making easier show results, add comments, likes, etc. If we can have this webview working in the schoolserver too, and sync all the related data, can be a first step in the cloud direction, and is not so difficult to start. I share this here, because is only a idea right now, and may be is related to the comment from Walter. There are some technical parts difficult to decide, but in general I think it's a good idea. Best regards, Daniel. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
Hi Daniel, On 9 Jan 2013, at 00:31, Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:19:13 -0300 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks Walter, I want share two ideas to discuss may be in the next meeting: * I want to organize, with guys from UY something related with Python Joven, the work Flavio Danesse has been doing in the last 2 or 3 years. Flavio is doing a very good job, in fact, all, or almost all new hackers in UY, participated in these events (please Daniel correct me if I am wrong). All new hackers in .UY subscribed to the Sugar Labs/OLPC mailing lists participated in at least one event. We live in the same country, but not in the same city/town. I was in Flavio's house one month ago, talking with him, trying to see how this success can be reproduced, but is not so easy. It's as easy as trying to teach students to play a musical instrument in a school classroom. Some few students may feel it easy and fun, but not all of them. I really like that analogy, thanks! :) Regards, --Gary Anyway, we need see how we can help put more events like this in movement, the more difficult part is get teachers involved. +1 * I want work in a web view of the Journal, may be first as a activity, but later integrated in Sugar. If we have this working, I think we can improve the social side of sugar, making easier show results, add comments, likes, etc. If we can have this webview working in the schoolserver too, and sync all the related data, can be a first step in the cloud direction, and is not so difficult to start. I share this here, because is only a idea right now, and may be is related to the comment from Walter. There are some technical parts difficult to decide, but in general I think it's a good idea. Best regards, Daniel. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] public log of Activities being started Re: [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
do you think it were possible to somehow push into the server (and then up to the Internet) suitably anonymous data that tells at least what activities have been started (at least a count within a timeframe, say, every week)? As part of this cloud effort? Reason: After all these years, we have not yet much reliable data on whether the XO or Sugar is used or not, or what it is used for, if at all. Hi Yama We do have data from Ceibal http://www.anep.edu.uy/anepdata/031610.pdf Is this data unreliable? I would expect a lot of this data to be similar across deployments. What extra data do you want to capture. Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software
Hi Folks, News from the CES has me (and maybe some of you) surprised and puzzled: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2024381/olpc-announces-xo-tablet-with-7inch-screen.html So… there is going to be an Android 7 or 8 (conflicting reports) tablet from OLPC, made by someone else and sold at Walmart (reminds me of the old Commodore Vic20 sold at K-Mart in the early 80s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUKUHjBhb2Q). Reports say it will have entirely different software, but are still saying the software is from OLPC. So some of my questions are (among many): Where can we see/sample the new software? Where was it developed? Does it have any features in common with Sugar? Will the new software run on other Android devices? Can the new software be as easily changed and adapted as Sugar can? Am I correct in assuming it is open source? It is obvious that many schools in the US and elsewhere will want to use these with their students. Will they support collaboration and project based learning like the XOs have?What apps for creating music will it have?How about art?Video editing?Playing TED talks?Playing Khan Academy videos?Using Khan Academy auxilliary materials? Will the apps coordinate as the Sugar Activities do?Is there a list of the apps with descriptions available anywhere? And what about Sugar… what is it's future? Any chance Sugar could be adapted to use on the new tablets? Wow… that is just a start! I'm sure many of you will have similar questions, and it is also very likely that some of you know some of the answers. If they aren't still considered top secret, can you share them with us? Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software
Hi folks, Caryl Bigenho ca...@laptop.org writes: Wow… that is just a start! A *very* good start, I would say. I'm sure many of you will have similar questions, and it is also very likely that some of you know some of the answers. If they aren't still considered top secret, can you share them with us? I have no answer myself, but I've been very puzzled by this announcement too. I hope OLPC does acknowledge the importance of the volunteers and the importance of answering these questions to them. And yes, doing it before the volunteers read stuff in the press would be ideal too. Have a good day and a happy hacking year! -- Bastien ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software
These questions deserve a complete response, but I don't have all the answers myself. (I'm OLPC Foundation, not OLPC Association.) The short version of the story is that OLPC-A has licensed out the XO name to two groups, in an effort to increase the penetration of the OLPC ideas. One group created the XO Learning environment, which is a skinned version of Android loaded with a bunch of licensed educational software (from sesame street, little pim, etc). The other group created the XO Learning tablet, which is to be sold in large quantities at Walmart. The XO Learning tablet runs the XO Learning environment, and I think the idea is that eventually there may be multiple hardware licensees running the XO Learning environment being sold by various retailers. This would allow price competition to bring down the price of educational tablets for 1st world retail sale. The software isn't really by OLPC, more like inspired by and licensed from OLPC. That said, it doesn't look half-bad in the demos. I'm cautiously optimistic this might get some good educational content in front of another 200,000 or so kids. Fingers crossed... --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software
From what I saw, the XO Tablet product is a commendable effort. All great questions though. It seems like a community maintained FAQ page on the Sugar Labs wiki based on these questions would be useful. Almost all of these questions can be answered by purchasing a sample of the product to examine the included documentation and terms of service. A savvy Android hacker could root the device and determine a great deal about how the custom shell/skin is architected. The web site at http://xo-learning.org/ just launched and is a bare bones brochure site. I hope we'll see terms of service, support forums, professional services (if any) etc. there. Mike On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Bastien b...@laptop.org wrote: Hi folks, Caryl Bigenho ca...@laptop.org writes: Wow… that is just a start! A *very* good start, I would say. I'm sure many of you will have similar questions, and it is also very likely that some of you know some of the answers. If they aren't still considered top secret, can you share them with us? I have no answer myself, but I've been very puzzled by this announcement too. I hope OLPC does acknowledge the importance of the volunteers and the importance of answering these questions to them. And yes, doing it before the volunteers read stuff in the press would be ideal too. Have a good day and a happy hacking year! -- Bastien ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] public log of Activities being started Re: [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7
Thank you, Tony Unreliable? IMO most definitely, if the goal is to figure out *actual* use Alas, you are probably correct in that there is no better data from other deployments either The data displayed relies on opinions or hearsay. Thanks to this document, we know that teachers or parents or kids say about this or that, but, as with anything coming from surveys, we have no idea if what they say is what actually is happening. If we ask teachers, are you doing your job, do you think they will answer yes? or no? Compare the charts page 7 and 8. they are supposed to report the same data, use of XOs in class. They do not match at all, the teacher's view is SO much higher. Page 19, makes no sense compared to page 7, except when we understand these are content-free teacher-speak, fully integrated with the program at 32% ??? One problem with teacher-speak is that no one knows what it actually means. Notice lines 4-5 of page 20. Turns out that Arts Areas is the one that has been the least integrated. However, it turns out that draw or paint is among the highest used activities, pages 11-12. What about the TamTams? So, what is this Arts Area supposed to mean, that TamaTam or Pain, Photo and Video and voice recording are not enough? Page 10 gives still different and contradictory data with the others... Opinions are important, when you are a politician. I guess some allowance needs exist for perception data. However, I am amazed that I could not find even the slightest attempt to gather objective data, even when some would have been SO easy. Like, look if actually teachers are doing what they say they are doing in the main portal - page 17 - just look at the logs! As if these appointees had no idea that facts and opinions are not the same thing... (have they ever had a basic class in experimental method, or the basics of reproducible science research? In many ways I feel sorry) IMHO, what we need is to actually have some sort of very simple built in /something/ that will log to a server *what* activity got opened, *when*. No need to log what machine it came out of. Very easy to build valuable knowledge out of it. What for? 1) if something gets used a lot, great. Maybe improve it further, as it really is a favorite 2) something doesn't get used, let's figure out why, help it, or put it out of its misery Maybe Sugar is a humongous success, the data will prove it. Let's give it an *objective* proof and certofocate. If, as I believe, it needs a serious, *deep* re-assessment in view of making it *useful* some day, this data will tell us better where to look. No fair to be navigating in fog, guided by surveys! On 01/08/2013 11:53 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: do you think it were possible to somehow push into the server (and then up to the Internet) suitably anonymous data that tells at least what activities have been started (at least a count within a timeframe, say, every week)? As part of this cloud effort? Reason: After all these years, we have not yet much reliable data on whether the XO or Sugar is used or not, or what it is used for, if at all. Hi Yama We do have data from Ceibal http://www.anep.edu.uy/anepdata/031610.pdf Is this data unreliable? I would expect a lot of this data to be similar across deployments. What extra data do you want to capture. Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software
Hi Scott, thanks for the update. C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org writes: The software isn't really by OLPC, more like inspired by and licensed from OLPC. That said, it doesn't look half-bad in the demos. I'm cautiously optimistic this might get some good educational content in front of another 200,000 or so kids. Fingers crossed... Is there a way to use the XO Learning System? Giulia, CC'ing you in case you have some pointers. Is the software and content released under a free license? I'm just anticipating questions that we -- OLPC France -- might be faced with. Thanks for your help! -- Bastien ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software
On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:03 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: These questions deserve a complete response, but I don't have all the answers myself. (I'm OLPC Foundation, not OLPC Association.) As OLPC Association, I can't do much better. The engineering team (sitting around Scott) hasn't seen this software either... Scott talked about the software. In a likewise manner, the OLPC engineering team had nothing to do with the hardware of the OLPC Learning Tablet. It is a Chinese design, probably running on a Rockchip SoC (that is the company name, not the SoC name). The XO-4 Touch was also announced at CES! This is where we are currently focused. Place your orders now! Cheers, wad The short version of the story is that OLPC-A has licensed out the XO name to two groups, in an effort to increase the penetration of the OLPC ideas. One group created the XO Learning environment, which is a skinned version of Android loaded with a bunch of licensed educational software (from sesame street, little pim, etc). The other group created the XO Learning tablet, which is to be sold in large quantities at Walmart. The XO Learning tablet runs the XO Learning environment, and I think the idea is that eventually there may be multiple hardware licensees running the XO Learning environment being sold by various retailers. This would allow price competition to bring down the price of educational tablets for 1st world retail sale. The software isn't really by OLPC, more like inspired by and licensed from OLPC. That said, it doesn't look half-bad in the demos. I'm cautiously optimistic this might get some good educational content in front of another 200,000 or so kids. Fingers crossed... --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
