Re: [IAEP] Priority languages to translate Sugar

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

I added Haitian Creole, even though it's already been partly translated,
because the quality of the translations is weak and not finished. I know
there was some talk in the past about hiring a firm - Educa Vision - to do
the translations and contribute a Haitian Creole dictionary app, but I
don't know the status of any of that because I was not really involved in
it.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Laura Vargas  wrote:

> Here is the first draft of the list for the Sugar translation pending
> projects. Hopefully, to be cosidered by the Sugar Projects Translation Fund:
>
>  https://titanpad.com/SLLL
>
> I have tried to summarize to the best of my knowledge current initiatives
> from local Communities in America. If you have an idea or project to add
> please share the context/continent and relationship of the language with
> the SugarXO Community, and thanks in advance.
>
>
> 2016-07-09 11:25 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva :
>
>> El 09/07/16 a las 01:48, Laura Vargas escribió:
>>
>> Recalling Claudia's proposal to make a priority languages list for Sugar
>> translations, here in Perú I did an informal survery with the team of the 
>> Dirección
>> de Lenguas Indígenas del Ministerio de Cultura, and noticing we already
>> have Quechua, Aymara and Awajún, they suggested (in no specific order):
>>
>> - Ashaninka http://bdpi.cultura.gob.pe/pueblo/ashaninka
>> - Wampis http://bdpi.cultura.gob.pe/pueblo/wampis
>> - Shipibo http://bdpi.cultura.gob.pe/pueblo/shipibo-konibo
>>
>>
>> Let's add Cherokee, possibly Navajo and Lakota?
>>
>> To better word a phrase I wrote in another thread:
>> I do believe the mere possibility of attaining fluency in technology and
>> properly appropriable informatics holds the promise to empower native
>> cultures to better cope with modernity and even assume leadership in it.
>>
>>
>> Is someone managing such list already?
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Happy Learning!
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Re: [IAEP] FW: Last Day to Save on Kindle Devices, $500 off NordicTrack SpaceSaver Treadmill, $669 Dell Inspiron 17 Core i7 Skylake Laptop

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Tablets currently retailing for $35.33 on Amazon; spoiler alert you can
only order 1 per Prime account, though.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Don't know if this is real, but today may be the last day to get the
> $39.99 price on the Kindle… for a while. In my experience, most of these
> sales come back eventually. But, if you are ready to buy for a specific
> project, today seems like a good time to do it.
>
> Caryl
>
> P.S. I really enjoy using mine and it can do many, many things while
> offline, even without "rooting." I found a way (online… but have lost the
> link) to make it accept lots of stuff that was not from Amazon … e.g.
> Google Play Store apps). I was going to do the rooting thing and there was
> a software tool available on line to help do that… But the site was too
> busy and I gave up and went the other way.
>
> The ability to add extra storage with a micro SD card is very nice too.
> BTW…. while offline, they can't push new ads to your device!
>
> --
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Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Right, but it's called "Project Rive" on the planet.laptop.org site.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:23 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> You mean the https://kidswrite.org blog? :)
>
> On 13 June 2016 at 21:47, Sora Edwards-Thro <s...@unleashkids.org> wrote:
> > I'll be printing a poster, which I can put on my blog linked to
> > planet.laptop.org if I figure out how to format it so it displays
> properly
> > on a screen. I plan to write up my results in a formal paper once we get
> the
> > data from the pilot concluding in June.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sora
> >>
> >> I'm curious about your presentation that is coming up in a couple of
> >> weeks - will your slides be available online? :)
> >>
> >> On 31 March 2016 at 12:31, Sora Edwards-Thro <s...@unleashkids.org>
> wrote:
> >> > I'll be there presenting research on a literacy project with XOs in
> >> > Haiti.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi
> >> >>
> >> >> Is anyone involved in Sugar Labs going to
> >> >> https://conference.iste.org/2016/ ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Has anyone gone from SL attended previous years?
> >> >>
> >> >> ISTE 2016 says it is "the premier education technology conference,"
> and
> >> >> will be held June 26-29 in Denver, Colorado, USA.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

I'll be printing a poster, which I can put on my blog linked to
planet.laptop.org if I figure out how to format it so it displays properly
on a screen. I plan to write up my results in a formal paper once we get
the data from the pilot concluding in June.

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:

> Hi Sora
>
> I'm curious about your presentation that is coming up in a couple of
> weeks - will your slides be available online? :)
>
> On 31 March 2016 at 12:31, Sora Edwards-Thro <s...@unleashkids.org> wrote:
> > I'll be there presenting research on a literacy project with XOs in
> Haiti.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Is anyone involved in Sugar Labs going to
> >> https://conference.iste.org/2016/ ?
> >>
> >> Has anyone gone from SL attended previous years?
> >>
> >> ISTE 2016 says it is "the premier education technology conference," and
> >> will be held June 26-29 in Denver, Colorado, USA.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Dave
> >>
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> >
>
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

I'll be there presenting research on a literacy project with XOs in Haiti.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> Is anyone involved in Sugar Labs going to
> https://conference.iste.org/2016/ ?
>
> Has anyone gone from SL attended previous years?
>
> ISTE 2016 says it is "the premier education technology conference," and
> will be held June 26-29 in Denver, Colorado, USA.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Dave
>
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Re: [IAEP] [UKids] "Top 50 Educational Apps Are Mostly All Stuck In The Stone Age"

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Thanks for passing this on; it's helpful for my research on technology and
literacy.

The authors of the report itself mention television programming as the gold
standard for educational media. But accessing a television program is just
a matter of tuning to the right station; you don't have to download or pay
for anything if you've already got cable (yeah, people are using Netflix
more and more, but let's talk about that another day).

It would be more appropriate to compare apps to literacy games such as
flashcards or puzzles that parents make the decision to purchase
individually. I'd be curious whether the advertising for these traditional
formats is any better or worse than what they're reporting from the digital
"Wild West."

It's interesting that the Forbes author talks about learning methods while
the report authors are more focused on skills. The Forbes author is
concerned that tablets are just a new way of copying / rehearsing, instead
of offering opportunities for deeper engagement.
But copying / rehearsing is a great way to learn basic skills like linking
letters with the sounds they make. It doesn't make much sense to apply
deeper methods for learning letter-sound connections. On the other hand,
higher-level skills like comprehension and storytelling do require these
deeper methods, and there definitely aren't enough apps that promote these
skills.

So, you can still criticize app developers for not doing something crucial
for children, but you need to make sure you're going about it in the right
way.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:

> Not unlike stone tablets, used in classrooms since 1900BC, and similar
> slates used in classrooms until about 1930- anyway that's the comparison
> made here by* Jordan Shapiro* who reviews educational apps professionally:
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanshapiro/2015/12/12/the-top-50-educational-apps-are-mostly-all-stuck-in-the-stone-age/
>
>   "Ancient students and teachers of
>   Mesopotamia used clay tablets for the
>   same reason (and in the same way)
>   that we still use dry-erase boards: clay
>   allowed pupils to write, wipe away
>   mistakes, and then iterate. The digital
>   tablet now works in very much the
>   same way. It’s beholden to same
>   essential metaphors. Tablet computing
>   with apps always maintains that same
>   spirit of impermanence and
>   ephemerality. Nothing is stored locally,
>   everything hovers in the cloud..."
>
> Perhaps more optimistically around our much-loved literacy apps:
>
>   "The Joan Ganz Cooney Center
>   report, *Getting a Read on the App*
> *  Stores: A Market Scan and Analysis of*
> *  Children’s Literacy Apps, *is full of tons
>   more interesting discoveries, plus a few
>   recommendations for app developers
>   and the industry as a whole"
>
>
> http://www.joanganzcooneycenter.org/publication/getting-a-read-on-the-app-stores-a-market-scan-and-analysis-of-childrens-literacy-apps/
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Re: [IAEP] [UKids] Amzn Fire Sale No More: pricing rises 86% !

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Price has gone up to $49.99

for
Prime members, as far as I can tell. That's a 43% increase over the Black
Friday $34.99 deal, not 86% or double.

The Black Friday sale ended, yeah. And they're not discounting those
particular tablets for Cyber Monday, which is silly. And because everyone
got them on Black Friday, they're not going to be in stock until December
25th. This seems like standard holiday logistics stuff to me, not something
inherently terrible.

More troubling, the 6-pack (buy 5, get one free) deal is no longer a thing.
Actually, you're limited to 2 tablets at a time. They direct you to their
Education and Business solutions page if you'd like to order more / get a
bulk discount.

For those interested in the XO Infinity, the Indiegogo

just launched. The retail price will be $300; backers get a special
discount ($250). . There's also an option to donate one; it's $250.
Finally, $2,390 gets you 10, giving a cost of $240 per unit plus shipping.

Being generous and saying that shipping only costs $10, each Infinity is 5x
the $49.99 undiscounted price of an Amazon tablet. So, if you're looking
for a cheap device to do basic tasks, unless we're expecting the Infinity
to last 15 years and still be relevant 15 years later, tablets are the
better option. I don't think the Infinity team is trying to replace cheap
tablets with their device. They're trying to do something new and exciting,
and that's admirable. But let's not pretend it's cost-effective.

If your goal is environmental sustainability and local ownership, it makes
sense to pay more upfront for a tablet that's produced in-country. Lower
shipping, support local industry, might be easier for staff on the ground
to repair and replace. Wee're definitely monitoring manufacturers in Haiti,
especially now that Amazon tablet price and the price of their tablets is
essentially equal (previously, with the 6-pack deal, we were only paying
$42 per unit...$8 discounts add up over 25 units).

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Adam Holt  wrote:

> Amazon assures us they are not in fact a casino, with oscillating prices,
> oscillating inventory, and oscillating policies, and 86'ing inventory from
> a country whose code is +86 = China ;-)
>
> Perhaps worse from microdeployments' very practical and pragmatic
> perspective, looking out over the high walls of Fortress America, Amzn's
> tablets just don't exist in many countries, so that "local capacity
> building" CAN become more than a fundraising buzzword One Day.
>
> But yes: fyi Amazon has now almost doubled its tablet price range/target:
> "$64.99 without special offers", instead of $34.99-for-everyone so very
> recently.
>
> Braddock's cautions (about deployments having the logistics rug pulled out
> from under them) apply earlier than we imagined...
>
> Oh for the good old days when OLPC'S microdeployment pricing only
> oscillated about 10-to-20% of the XO's "China price" (perhaps that's still
> the case, if OLPC still uses DHL from China).  OLPC's microdeployment
> real/actual pricing (including country-by-country certication, delivery
> from China, customs brokering) being even more stable in the USA, last I
> checked anyway.
>
> The future of student devices / clean browsers / consistent Sugar UX
> remains all too blurry for now ~ might OLPC Australia's "Infinite" hardware
> (modular laptop, announced for September 2016) possibly reconsider a clean
> Sugar experience out-of-the-box?
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Re: [IAEP] [UKids] Amzn Fire Sale No More: pricing rises 86% !

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>
> FWIW "$64.99 Amazon Prime without special offers" is Amazon's very own
> language, an 86% rise over the price-for-everyone on many recent days.
>
As far as I understand, that's *always *been the situation. When I bought
tablets back in September, I had the option of paying $15 more per tablet
to avoid ads, but I didn't consider that an essential feature so I didn't
pay extra for it. Is there any reason it would be essential, especially in
an offline situation where there's no potential to actually click-'n-'buy
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Re: [IAEP] Future Direction

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 But there are good materials for learning Etoys, especially in Spanish,
 and especially for teachers.


What Spanish materials exist?


 The last part I don't agree with because it contains a misconception about
 how to teach Etoys, and especially programming, to children and adults.


Thanks for reminding me that alternatives exist. That's what I was trying
to get at with the vague different models would work differently but
going into specific details, based on experience, is much more helpful and
promising.


 It is not used nearly enough (many pro teachers feel a loss of authority,
 and that is more important to them that in how well the children are
 learning).


Yes, we are talking about how to teach children but the real problem is
teaching adults to give up control and certainty.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:

 I am not sure about how this could be accomplished where after-school
 programs are not feasible. At some of the schools I support, the teachers
 and students live too far from the school to stay after the normal day is
 over


Thanks for reminding us about the other kinds of obstacles to implementing
these programs.










 On 03/05/2015 08:18 PM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:

 Message: 2
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 12:13:46 + (UTC)
 From: Alan Kayalan.n...@yahoo.com
 To: Sora Edwards-Thros...@unleashkids.org,Gonzalo Odiard
 godi...@sugarlabs.org
 Cc: IAEP SugarLabsiaep@lists.sugarlabs.org,   Tim Falconer
 timo...@immuexa.com,  support-g...@laptop.org
 support-g...@laptop.org
 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Future Direction
 Message-ID:
 1578652867.4886132.1425557626158.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 Hi

 I agree with your first paragraph (although I don't know of really
 discoverable programming systems -- even Scratch has lots of conventions
 that are hard to discover). But I do agree that 5-10% of an population is
 better matched up to a given topic, and that the rest need more help of
 different kinds.
 But there are good materials for learning Etoys, especially in Spanish,
 and especially for teachers.

 The last part I don't agree with because it contains a misconception
 about how to teach Etoys, and especially programming, to children and
 adults.

 We found -- via many attempts -- that 1 on 1 -- then branching out --
 works much much better than trying to teach a group. The Drive a Car
 project was invented to be the introduction, and it can be taught 1 on 1 in
 about 20 minutes. Now we have two teachers of Drive a Car. Then 4 etc. It
 is worth taking the 100 minutes to carry this out. The reason for this
 approach is found in your first paragraph, and the key is the 1 on 1 which
 allows the time needed for specific learnings and questions about the
 project.
 Once a class has gotten going, then should eventually be the first
 teachers for the next class, and now the whole new class can be handled in
 ~30 minutes for the first exercise. This use of peer teaching works in
 other areas also, but it is particularly effective in technique learning.
 It is not used nearly enough (many pro teachers feel a loss of authority,
 and that is more important to them that in how well the children are
 learning).
 Cheers
 Alan


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Re: [IAEP] Future Direction

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:

 We see that all time, is not surprising at all.
 Some (but not all) kids will try until find the way,
 and many adults are used to a more structured way of learning,
 and are afraid of break something.


Everyone's capable of thinking critically and being creative, but not in
the same ways. Within a class of 20 kids, you'll get maybe 3 max who can
figure e-Toys out on their own (in our experience, working with 4th - 6th
graders in Haiti). Then there's another kid in the class who's good at
writing, another who's good at playing music, another who's a natural
leader, and so on...people have different talents. In the developing world,
there are kids who can figure out e-Toys on their own but in my experience
the whole class of kids will not do that - maybe because it does not come
naturally to them, maybe because they are not as interested in it, who
knows?

A good teacher will be able to guide the kids who are not excited about the
software itself so that they can make something exciting with it. I agree,
Gonzalo, that adults in general want more structure than kids. But another
part of why teachers want a manual is so they can give their students
advice on how to do specific things. A kid raises their hand with a
question about how to do something; you want to be able to give them the
answer.

The materials that have already been created for e-Toys are great and we've
used them. And it's not like things are that hard to do once you've
learned. But just the way the menus work, the number of clicks it takes to
get to something cool is unfortunately too many in a lot of cases. That's
if you're looking to teach a class of 20 students at once, and you also
want to teach other things besides e-Toys. Different models (targeting only
advanced students, letting the kids play around on their own over months of
time) would work differently.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Interesting that 5th graders learn Etoys very easily but teachers find
 the learning curve too steep hmm

 Cheers

 Alan

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  *From:* Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de
 *To:* Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com
 *Cc:* IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; Tim Falconer 
 timo...@immuexa.com; support-g...@laptop.org support-g...@laptop.org

 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:57 AM

 *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Future Direction

 On 04.03.2015, at 10:44, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi...

 Some thoughts about Etoys:   Tim Falconer and other folks at Waveplace
 (deployments around the Caribbean) have made excellent use of Etoys and
 have made a series of lessons about its use available at:
 http://www.waveplace.com/courseware/basic-etoys/

 However, I don't recall seeing anywhere that they use many other parts of
 Sugar with the students. So the question could become: does Etoys need to
 be packaged with Sugar.

 Something to consider in answering the question is that Etoys is
 available in a very portable version as Etoys to Go:
 http://www.squeakland.org/download/  One nice feature about Etoys To Go
 is that you can put it on a thumb drive and move it from a Linux machine to
 a Windows machine to a Mac machine and the files will all be readable and
 usable! Also, it leaves nothing behind on the host machine. It is all on
 the usb drive!

 We can thank Bert Freudenberg for that! I'm adding him to this
 conversation so he might be able to give us an update on the latest news
 from Etoys... is a version for Android and/or IOS coming that would also be
 as portable as the current Etoys To Go? Universal portability would be a
 wonderful goal (for Sugar too)!


 Supporting all the different platforms natively is too much work given
 our limited resources. Something that could become the universal version
 is this browser-based version (but that too needs work to optimize
 performance, and support other browsers than Chrome):

 http://bertfreudenberg.github.io/SqueakJS/etoys/

 Personally, like Sora, I have found the Etoys learning curve a bit steep.
 Once I did a workshop about Etoys To Go for a roomful of tech-saavy
 teachers. They just really didn't get it.  I also tried to contribute to a
 project where some folks were making some science lessons in Etoys... but
 found it really difficult to get it to do what I wanted it too.


 Yep. Etoys was designed with extensive teacher training in mind, but that
 training never happened on a large scale. Scratch learned from that lesson,
 and while as a result it is not as powerful as Etoys, it is much more
 approachable and discoverable.

 Btw, recently Tim Rowledge worked on the ARM version of Squeak for the
 Raspberry Pi, which both Etoys and Scratch benefit from. That should
 benefit the XO-4 too.

 Yet,  my favorite little ecology simulation is an Etoys featured project
 Fish And Plankton. It is great fun to experiment with and can teach 

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 84, Issue 2

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:48 PM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote:

 Good analysis Tony. I live in the Get1 world that started me to work on
 the Give1 world. In fact the Give1 world has changed to Loan1 world. With
 that I could try to predict the chance of success before scaling up or
 saying No.

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/64216380/OLPdisAbledC-N-1


The concept of Loan1 could be relevant at a school level. Start with
giving 5 or 10 XO laptops - schools normally want more, but see what they
do those 5 or 10 first. Or, start with XO-1 laptops, and then upgrade to a
shinier version (XO-4) after they're proven they can make good use of the
XO-1s.

But, even if you loan the technology, schools require significant
infrastructure investment to get even the smallest program up and running
(electrical, Internet, training). If you do not provide that, it will be
difficult for the program to work (In your honest report, TK, you explain
that you were unfortunately unable to train the teachers, which made
success unlikely).

Sidenote: TK, I know nothing about working with disabled students, but
maybe you can look at assistive apps
http://www.friendshipcircle.org/blog/2011/02/07/7-assistive-communication-apps-in-the-ipad-app-store/
designed
for other devices for inspiration of what might work on the XO.

We will have alot to do with Bernie/XSCE/mOLP when we meet in 3 weeks time.
 Fixing lot of arrangements and playtime followups of the mOLC Project.

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/219619484/mobile-Open-Learning-Chest-mOLC-Project


TK, I really like the work you have done with others to get SD card user
accounts working. I think it's a fantastic way to allow the maximum number
of children to benefit from the computers you are able to provide.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:

 We should consider the real model of deployments (aside of the national
 ones). Some individual or group in the Get 1 world decides to sponsor a set
 of laptops for a specific school or library in the Give 1 world, the
 deployment.

 The role of the sponsor is to coordinate with the deployment, develop a
 plan to provide electrical power (e.g. agreeing to pay for utility bill or
 getting an agreement that the deployment will pay), acquire the laptops,
 arrange for the laptops to be delivered to the deployment (often in
 luggage), and arrange for someone with technical skills to go to the
 deployment to set up the system and show the staff how it works. Naturally,
 my personal interest is that the sponsor should supply a school server and
 one or more routers to provide the XOs with access to some of the
 information the Get 1 world routinely obtains from the internet.


That's how many of our programs began in Haiti: the US-based organization
that gives funds to a school or orphanage contacted us to bring laptops and
provide training. They pay for the server equipment that we install. For
the most part, it's working. When it's not working, it's because the
US-based organization did not understand important factors such as
electrical infrastructure and paying teachers' salaries. They do not always
have a vision when they ask for computers of how the computers will be
used; computers are a fun and useful toy. You have to make sure they
understand that using the computers requires more work from their teachers
and teachers expect to be paid for that. Even sponsors who appear to have a
lot of money available do not always want to spend the funds on this, for
whatever reason.

If we need a marketing program, it is to find sponsors to fund and support
 deployments in the Give 1 world. This program should be accompanied by an
 effort to find unused XOs and get them deployed for the simple reason that
 the initial $200 investment is paid and they are immediately usable. Where
 are the XOs given to Mongolia? The program should include particular
 attention to making the task of sponsorship as easy as possible and on
 giving the sponsor a clear understanding of the pedagogical goal of the
 program.


Yep, we're also trying to do that in Haiti. Sponsors are the main issue.
Schools have the XO laptops and would like to use them; they do not have
electricity or funds to pay teachers. We'll be reviving our second and
third programs this summer. I hope that experience will enable us to put a
price-tag on getting a program going again so we can start reaching out to
people to pay for it. We already have some rough ideas about what solar,
Internet, and teacher salaries cost in the developing world: I think $3000
- $4000 would do it in most cases, depending on how many laptops you wanted
to start using again. That's for a year of Internet and after-school
instruction, and 25 laptops. I'll some better budget stuff soon.

The initial reaction to Raspberry Pi is that when you added the essential
 peripherals (monitor, keyboard, camera, microphone) and packaged them in a
 portable package - the cost would be comparable to that 

Re: [IAEP] Planning for the future

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:53 PM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote:

 The web sugarizer is a good attempt for quick start with limited
 activities. Hope this can change quickly.


Are you thinking the change will be the addition of new activities, or the

 2. Support the idea that Sugar must be optimised to work with RPi2. It
 works with Rpi but no development or optimization to make it deployable.
 With  5 millions Rpi sold maybe we can get 1 million SugarRpi running :-)


I'd like to learn more about who's using the Raspberry Pi around the world.
At Maker Faire events that Unleash Kids attended in the US, there's a lot
of enthusiasm about using them for DIY electronics projects. Then I heard
about RACHEL http://www.worldpossible.org/rachel/, which uses it to
provide offline educational content. We should do more research, but it
looks like there are a few projects using it in the developing world
http://www.raspberrypi.org/tag/developing-world/.

Finally, they have an education fund
http://www.raspberrypi.org/education-fund/ where they match whatever
other funds we're able to raise. I have no idea what the typically-awarded
amount is, but if we're interested I'm sure we could reach out to them and
ask. If we gotta pay people for optimization work, might as well try to get
them to cover half those costs.

3. Try to keep XOs deployment alive and support old/new XO with the best
 Sugar experience for learning.


On that note, who else (what lists) should take a look at this survey
before we pass it on?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The proposed survey of the educators who have been using Sugar long term
 is a key to making this work. Teachers are very busy.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1swm0KplaCdZnU4hJFcIu9C32PLYMsFt94wxXICgG2PE/edit?usp=sharing

Started here. I don't think it's a bad thing to add other useful questions
- teachers are busy, yes, but they're also eager to provide feedback.











 -Original Message-
 From: Leinonen Teemu [mailto:teemu.leino...@aalto.fi]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:35 PM
 To: 'IAEP SugarLabs'
 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Planning for the future
 
 Hi,
 
 Sean's idea of 1-click installers for Windows / MacOS / GNU/Linux makes a
 lot of sense. If possible, by default it could be so that in a start screen
 on could choose 1) Sugar 2) The other. Having installers for Android and
 iPad would be great, too.
 
 Why?
 
 Bring your own device (BYOD
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bring_your_own_device) is becoming popular
 in schools. In this case having one pedagogically visionary OS in the
 children's own devices would be great.
 
- Teemu
 
  On 1.3.2015, at 23.57, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Samuel,
 
  thanks for this
 
  I believe Sugar has had a clear pedagogical vision from day one, but
 has not had a strategy for some time.
 
  Outside the XO, Sugar's historical technical architecture has
 unfortunately kept it out of reach from all but the most determined and
 tech-savvy teachers (and journalists). Without a pancake button download
 and one-click installer, the installation barrier is too high. OLPC's
 historical focus on the hardware was never helpful either, and the main
 reason OLPC got mauled by incorrect memes was they didn't want to accompany
 journalists past the unfamiliarity barrier of the XO (hardware+software).
 
  In my view there are only a few ways to overcome this issue:
 
  * Develop 1-click installers for Windows / MacOS / GNU/Linux. I had
 suggested maintaining a matrix of preconfigured (i.e. languages/keyboards,
 prepopulated Journal, selection of Activities) VMs over Oracle VirtualBox,
 whose license allows free distribution for nonprofit and educational
 purposes. Upsides were immediate fullscreen Sugar experience without
 touching the configuration of the host computer. The downsides were huge VM
 images and the effort required to build and maintain the matrix. At the
 time I suggested we approach Oracle for corporate sponsorship, but some
 community members voiced objections.
 
  * Arrange for Sugar to be preinstalled on low-cost, reliable machines
 other than XOs. This is complex and would require a sales force (or working
 with a partner's) since no OEM will make that investment without a prospect
 of selling many thousands of units. As an alternative I had suggested we
 ride the wave of Raspberry Pi units (five million sold in three years) by
 developing an SD card for it based on Sugar on a Stick, but there was no
 interest in that effort. I still believe a Sugar-branded version (case +
 teacher starters kit -documentation) could have an impact.
 
  * Migrate to a web-based Sugar compatible with browsers on any
 platform. Lionel's Sugarizer is I think a fabulous solution.
 
 
  I've heard it suggested that marketing could do fund-raising, but
 donors large and small won't want to contribute unless there is a plan.
 I've been bewildered what the plan is for some time.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

 Thanks Sora for sharing. We are working in a questionnaire to get more
 information
 from the local deployments. If you agree, we can send it to you
 to get more information from Haiti deployments.


Somehow missed this message yesterday...yes, I'd be happy to get info from
our Haiti deployments.

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:24 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 08:13:04PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
  One other thing I should mention about some Sugar Activities... some
  of them really lack color. [...]

 This was possibly the design decision to support the colourless
 display of the XO laptop when used outdoors, as well as colour
 impaired children.

 I don't think it needs to be kept for Sugar, and would welcome a
 change where colour was more heavily used.

 (Developers: as a reproducible colouring of the background of the
 icons, for example, along with nicknames always shown on the
 neighbourhood view.)

 --
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 http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Someone remarked that teachers don't like to use Sugar. If not,... why not?

 Ask them!

I hate to say that the user's not always right, but in Haiti at least, some
of the teachers are disappointed when they see Sugar because they were
expecting Windows. They've never used Windows, and they don't know what it
can and can't do, but they do know that's the software you have to master
in order to get a job. We ask our Haitian staff to speak during training
about the advantages they've seen using Sugar with kids. I constantly
repeat my mantra We're not learning to use computers; we're using
computers to learn. But it doesn't always work.

 Obviously, the teachers in Uruguay like it and use it. But not all of it.

 So, do a survey of teachers who do use it and find the 10 or 20 top
 Activities and then concentrate on getting them ported to a more universal
 platform (e.g. Android). When I was there a few years back I did ask them...
 and the students. The hands-down winner was Labyrinth!

Yep, Labyrinth is fantastic (the mind-mapping one, although the maze isn't
bad either). Folks also like Fototoon, and the music software never gets
enough credit. But I'm just reporting what I've seen and what we wrote up
in our curriculum guide. I'd be up for sending out an actual survey.

 How important is collaboration? Ask the teachers!

 Can collaboration be implemented on an Android platform? If not, is there
 an easy work around?

I hope so. I know in Haiti the teachers don't use it very often, but that's
partly because it requires a new method of thinking about implementing
lessons and that can be tricky. It's something I always emphasize in
follow-up training sessions; once the teachers and students have gotten a
basic grasp of the technology they start exploring other possibilities like
this.

 One other thing I should mention about some Sugar Activities... some of them
 really lack color. When you look at the typical educational software for
 children, it is always bright and colorful with very simple artwork... maybe
 too much so. It also often has cute little tunes playing in the background.
 Teachers, parents, and children have grown to expect this in educational
 software. Perhaps considering brightening up the screens a bit on some of
 the Activities would be something to experiment with.

I've been reading a lot about e-books and digital education for school for
the past few weeks. One thing that keeps coming up is the line between
engaging and distracting. As you say, bright and colorful with music is
what people have come to expect, but unless it's very tightly integrated
with what kids are doing it doesn't really enhance the experience. Another
case where the user may not be right...but what can you do?


  Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:40:01 +1100
  From: qu...@laptop.org
  To: m...@jvonau.ca
  CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org;
 lio...@olpc-france.org; sam...@greenfeld.org
  Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel
 Greenfeld)

 
  On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 03:31:50PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
   On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:20:02PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote:
 On February 25, 2015 at 3:09 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org
 wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 01:20:19PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote:
  I know this is not a sugar issue directly, more of an OLPC issue
  but since Fedora F12 the entire i686 platform's userland is
  being compiled with -mtune=atom which would use sse. This causes
  problems for some parts of sugar now that java is being used
  more and the XO-1 lacks sse.  Fixing one package that uses sse
  might fix one issue but this is really a distro wide setting and
  other issues may float to the top in other areas.

 Thanks, wasn't aware -mtune=atom was being used upstream.  It
 explains a lot.  First build after Fedora 11 was 11.2.0 (os874)
 using Fedora 14.  So if we rebuild everything there may be an
 improvement?  That's probably something that can be set running as
 a test.

   
Wouldn't all the rpms used need to be recompiled to ensure mtune is
set to match throughout the distro?
  
   Don't think so. Check my logic:
  
   The GCC documentation you referenced described -mtune as Tune to
   cpu-type everything applicable about the generated code, except for
   the ABI and the set of available instructions. 
  
   -march is more significant, as Generate instructions for the machine
   type cpu-type. The choices for cpu-type are the same as for
   -mtune. Moreover, specifying -march=cpu-type implies
   -mtune=cpu-type. 
  
   If the ABI were different between i586 and i686 arch, that would be
   very interesting.
  
Tall order IMHO, good luck
  
   ;-)
  
   For the moment, I'm doing a mock --rebuild of webkitgtk3 with
   --arch=i586, and the logs so far show -march=i586 -mtune=generic
   

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Thanks for the fact-checking, James. Sorry I didn't correctly attribute
credit to you, Gonzalo.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 03:19:18PM -0500, Sora Edwards-Thro wrote:
  Here's a table Martin Dluhos generated of the start-up times on
  XO-1s for different OS versions. It influenced our decision-making
  in Haiti (we have a customized version of 12.1.0); I don't know
  what they decided in Nepal, where he was based.
 
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0As_jQJX0Me6XdDI2clFpX1FFRHhKMHVFZGkyakdST2cusp=sharing

 No, that table was prepared by Gonzalo Odiard in July 2013, and
 discussed on devel@ at the time, and sugar-devel@ mailing list in
 November 2013.

 The results are all because of memory contention, and the fixes are to
 either:

 1.  run the operating system from SD card, (which releases a lot of
 memory), or

 2.  add swap partition on SD card, (which moves little used memory to
 the card).

 --
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 http://quozl.linux.org.au/

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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF February meeting

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Gonzalo, if a French translation exists and it's easy to include both it
and the English translations when making the templates, that would be
great. But if there's only room for one language, please have it be
English.

Thanks!

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:

 Thanks Nick.


 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Nick Doiron ndoi...@mapmeld.com wrote:

 I believe the official language code is HT
 On Feb 23, 2015 9:09 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 I can create the templates to do the translation and sent to you.
 Or I can upload and you can translate them online.
 The process is a little different than with the pottle server used to
 translate activities,
 but the idea is the same.
 I need the localization code you are using to Haitian Creole

 Gonzalo


 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org
  wrote:

 Good to see it's been updated! I look forward to checking it out to see
 what content we're using in Haiti that it's missing. We've been using our
 customized course guide http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Haiti_Course_Guide to
 help teachers design lesson plans, but materials that provide a basic
 overview of the activities themselves would also be helpful. How would I go
 about helping with translation efforts into Haitian Creole?

 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

 A little unrelated, but could be useful. The new version of Help
 activity added information about more activities,
 including many you named.

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4051

 Help activity content can be translated if you or other are
 interested.
 Actual content is based in the work of many volunteersin this list,
 and more content can be easily added.

 Gonzalo


 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro 
 s...@unleashkids.org wrote:

 Thanks for passing that on, Gonzalo! (note to self: when embarking on
 a project, first go to Sugar Labs and search extremely-relevant terms 
 like
 Story instead of just assuming the stuff you've seen / used before is 
 the
 only stuff that exists).

 I like the open-endedness of Story. It also looks like it might not
 be hard to modify the images it's using - kids could nominate different
 pictures, or you could take examples from stories the class had read.





 On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 You can add Story
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4565

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro 
 s...@unleashkids.org wrote:

 Hello all,

 We're looking for programming help on student writing software;
 hope some OLPC SF folks can become involved! I'm over on the East 
 Coast,
 but I can join in over Skype / respond to questions via email if folks 
 are
 interested.

 Here are some more details:
 Unleash Kids recently received recognition
 http://www.unleashkids.org/blog/ for our iloominate
 http://iloominate-haiti.herokuapp.com/edit app (shout-out to
 Caryl Bigenho for her input and Mike Dawson, whose Ustad Mobile 
 project was
 also recognized). The app helps teachers write books
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/lascahobas-workshops-final-review/
 for beginning readers by recommending easy words; now we're shifting 
 our
 focus to supporting student writers.

 There are already several excellent writing activities for the
 Sugar, which we're including as we design lessons for a summer writing
 workshop for our XO projects in Haiti:

 -Labyrinth http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078,
 a mindmapping activity that gets kids thinking
 http://www.unleashkids.org/2013/07/31/story-activity-continued-and-the-results/
 about how to lay out their ideas on paper
 -Fototoon http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4253,
 comic-book style creations; a perpetual favorite
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/first-week-of-classes/
 -Newspaper http://seeta.in/j/products/37.html, an example of how
 templates can enable kids
 http://blog.unleashkids.org/2013/08/01/journal-mission-of-hope/
 to explore new formats
 -Prompt
 http://olpc-yokwe.tumblr.com/post/39897602954/prompt-activity,
 literally just presents students with a random image from a library for
 them to write about...proof that simple stuff can be powerful

 We want to supplement these great activities with some new stuff,
 based on teacher recommendations. A lot of the focus will be on 
 creating
 templates and scenarios that kids can use as inspiration - for 
 example, we
 can present the kids with a scene of people talking, where the speech
 bubbles aren't filled in, and ask them to fill in the speech bubbles.
 That's one of many ideas for an effective tool.

 We also hope to make use of the XSCE schoolserver installed on-site
 to enable the kids to collaborate and share the finished products with 
 one
 another.

 Our most dire need is help with the programming, but we

Re: [IAEP] Note-taking

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Thanks for the clarification on speech-to-text stuff, Gonzalo. A project
for the future would be creating a Haitian Creole text-to-speech engine.
We've been relying on the French one, which does not pronounce certain
things correctly.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:


 I think the Pathagar server is the solution to this particular problem.


Looks like it! It's definitely set up along the lines of the library model
instead of the classroom model, which is what we're going for. I'm glad we
don't have to reinvent this particular wheel.

I've got a few questions:
-Does Pathagar support user accounts? (if I post a comment or upload a
book, will it display who posted / uploaded the book?)

We want to collect data to attract funding in the future. Similar projects
have created software that allows them to get information beyond just who's
reading what book: they can monitor whether students read a book all the
way through, and how long they spent looking at each page. Ideally, we'd be
able to access this info remotely (from the States) by getting it from an
online schoolserver installed on-site. But, as I understand Pathagar
currently, users download books to their own computers so there'd be no way
of collecting this info. What solutions could enable us to collect this
info, and what are the advantages and disadvantages of implementing them?

Thanks all. I'll be attempting to follow the instructions on Github
https://github.com/pathagarbooks/pathagar for installing Pathagar on my
personal machine later today so I can check it out.
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF February meeting

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

That's fine; I can look elsewhere to find the standard French versions for
some of these software terms. I'd work on the French translations, too, but
I currently understand the language much better than I actually speak it,
so unfortunately I can't really help out there. Thanks for sending along
the English templates to put into Creole when you get the chance!



On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:

 Only a English version is available right now.

 There are another activity with a older version in French, but the last
 version is from 2009
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4195



 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org
 wrote:

 Gonzalo, if a French translation exists and it's easy to include both it
 and the English translations when making the templates, that would be
 great. But if there's only room for one language, please have it be
 English.

 Thanks!

 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

 Thanks Nick.


 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Nick Doiron ndoi...@mapmeld.com
 wrote:

 I believe the official language code is HT
 On Feb 23, 2015 9:09 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

 I can create the templates to do the translation and sent to you.
 Or I can upload and you can translate them online.
 The process is a little different than with the pottle server used to
 translate activities,
 but the idea is the same.
 I need the localization code you are using to Haitian Creole

 Gonzalo


 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Sora Edwards-Thro 
 s...@unleashkids.org wrote:

 Good to see it's been updated! I look forward to checking it out to
 see what content we're using in Haiti that it's missing. We've been using
 our customized course guide
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Haiti_Course_Guide to help teachers
 design lesson plans, but materials that provide a basic overview of the
 activities themselves would also be helpful. How would I go about helping
 with translation efforts into Haitian Creole?

 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 A little unrelated, but could be useful. The new version of Help
 activity added information about more activities,
 including many you named.

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4051

 Help activity content can be translated if you or other are
 interested.
 Actual content is based in the work of many volunteersin this list,
 and more content can be easily added.

 Gonzalo


 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro 
 s...@unleashkids.org wrote:

 Thanks for passing that on, Gonzalo! (note to self: when embarking
 on a project, first go to Sugar Labs and search extremely-relevant 
 terms
 like Story instead of just assuming the stuff you've seen / used 
 before
 is the only stuff that exists).

 I like the open-endedness of Story. It also looks like it might not
 be hard to modify the images it's using - kids could nominate different
 pictures, or you could take examples from stories the class had read.





 On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 You can add Story
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4565

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro 
 s...@unleashkids.org wrote:

 Hello all,

 We're looking for programming help on student writing software;
 hope some OLPC SF folks can become involved! I'm over on the East 
 Coast,
 but I can join in over Skype / respond to questions via email if 
 folks are
 interested.

 Here are some more details:
 Unleash Kids recently received recognition
 http://www.unleashkids.org/blog/ for our iloominate
 http://iloominate-haiti.herokuapp.com/edit app (shout-out to
 Caryl Bigenho for her input and Mike Dawson, whose Ustad Mobile 
 project was
 also recognized). The app helps teachers write books
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/lascahobas-workshops-final-review/
 for beginning readers by recommending easy words; now we're shifting 
 our
 focus to supporting student writers.

 There are already several excellent writing activities for the
 Sugar, which we're including as we design lessons for a summer 
 writing
 workshop for our XO projects in Haiti:

 -Labyrinth
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078, a
 mindmapping activity that gets kids thinking
 http://www.unleashkids.org/2013/07/31/story-activity-continued-and-the-results/
 about how to lay out their ideas on paper
 -Fototoon
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4253,
 comic-book style creations; a perpetual favorite
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/first-week-of-classes/
 -Newspaper http://seeta.in/j/products/37.html, an example of
 how templates can enable kids
 http://blog.unleashkids.org/2013/08/01/journal-mission-of-hope/
 to explore new formats
 -Prompt
 http://olpc-yokwe.tumblr.com/post/39897602954/prompt-activity,
 literally just

Re: [IAEP] Note-taking

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Thanks for the additional input, everyone. James, Gonzalo, Tony, some
responses below:

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:14 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:

 The catch is it only works with plain text files.


Yes, my original thought was we could convert PDF to plain-text files and
just use the Write activity to do highlights and such. But, some of the
content we're working with is not OER (that's what happens when you need
high-quality books in a specific language), and I'm not sure if they'll be
okay with us manipulating the files like that. We've got to choose how many
battles to fight with them. Thanks for passing this tool on - looks like
it's better suited than the Write activity for reading.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

 I am available to work (on contract) in these features if you are
 interested.


Thank you for the offer, Gonzalo. Fortunately, we do have some money raised
to pay programmers. Right now I'm just trying to identify which tasks to
ask people to tackle. Bear in mind that this is my first experience with
software development; thanks for being patient,everyone, as we try to
figure out what is and isn't doable, and what is and isn't worth doing.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
 wrote:

 Also on the list is a 'comments' capability so that learners can make
 comments and give rankings for the books they read from the school server
 library and which would be linked to the book entry on the school server.


Do you currently have a system in place for organizing books on the
schoolserver? I know on the Haiti IIAB release we have a searchable copy of
Project Gutenberg; I don't know how easy it is to add entries to that. In
the past, we just added books by creating another link that goes to a page
with a list of the PDF files available. But since we're looking at adding
at least 300 more books, plus whatever the texts the students are able to
write, so searching  by title would be nice / necessary. We're also looking
for sorting by level and topic. Finally, the ability to comment and give
rankings is essential if you want students to start reading socially. If
you've made / plan to make any headway on the above, I'd love to hear more
about it. Thanks.
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF February meeting

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Good to see it's been updated! I look forward to checking it out to see
what content we're using in Haiti that it's missing. We've been using our
customized course guide http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Haiti_Course_Guide to
help teachers design lesson plans, but materials that provide a basic
overview of the activities themselves would also be helpful. How would I go
about helping with translation efforts into Haitian Creole?

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:

 A little unrelated, but could be useful. The new version of Help activity
 added information about more activities,
 including many you named.

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4051

 Help activity content can be translated if you or other are interested.
 Actual content is based in the work of many volunteersin this list, and
 more content can be easily added.

 Gonzalo


 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org
 wrote:

 Thanks for passing that on, Gonzalo! (note to self: when embarking on a
 project, first go to Sugar Labs and search extremely-relevant terms like
 Story instead of just assuming the stuff you've seen / used before is the
 only stuff that exists).

 I like the open-endedness of Story. It also looks like it might not be
 hard to modify the images it's using - kids could nominate different
 pictures, or you could take examples from stories the class had read.





 On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

 You can add Story http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4565

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org
  wrote:

 Hello all,

 We're looking for programming help on student writing software; hope
 some OLPC SF folks can become involved! I'm over on the East Coast, but I
 can join in over Skype / respond to questions via email if folks are
 interested.

 Here are some more details:
 Unleash Kids recently received recognition
 http://www.unleashkids.org/blog/ for our iloominate
 http://iloominate-haiti.herokuapp.com/edit app (shout-out to Caryl
 Bigenho for her input and Mike Dawson, whose Ustad Mobile project was also
 recognized). The app helps teachers write books
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/lascahobas-workshops-final-review/
 for beginning readers by recommending easy words; now we're shifting our
 focus to supporting student writers.

 There are already several excellent writing activities for the Sugar,
 which we're including as we design lessons for a summer writing workshop
 for our XO projects in Haiti:

 -Labyrinth http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078, a
 mindmapping activity that gets kids thinking
 http://www.unleashkids.org/2013/07/31/story-activity-continued-and-the-results/
 about how to lay out their ideas on paper
 -Fototoon http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4253,
 comic-book style creations; a perpetual favorite
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/first-week-of-classes/
 -Newspaper http://seeta.in/j/products/37.html, an example of how
 templates can enable kids
 http://blog.unleashkids.org/2013/08/01/journal-mission-of-hope/ to
 explore new formats
 -Prompt http://olpc-yokwe.tumblr.com/post/39897602954/prompt-activity,
 literally just presents students with a random image from a library for
 them to write about...proof that simple stuff can be powerful

 We want to supplement these great activities with some new stuff, based
 on teacher recommendations. A lot of the focus will be on creating
 templates and scenarios that kids can use as inspiration - for example, we
 can present the kids with a scene of people talking, where the speech
 bubbles aren't filled in, and ask them to fill in the speech bubbles.
 That's one of many ideas for an effective tool.

 We also hope to make use of the XSCE schoolserver installed on-site to
 enable the kids to collaborate and share the finished products with one
 another.

 Our most dire need is help with the programming, but we also welcome
 input on any and all aspects.

 Thank you everyone!

 Sora Edwards-Thro

 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Aaron Borden adbor...@live.com
 wrote:

 Hello,

 OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
 February 14th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
 Street, Room 597 (the fishbowl).

 Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone
 is
 welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
 latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
 projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
 play around with, too. Please post with any additional agenda
 items.

 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/325843320953044/
 Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/crf7g4e84aag78ssn761danaj8s

 --
 Aaron Borden
 Human and Hacker

 ___
 IAEP -- It's An Education

Re: [IAEP] Note-taking

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Thanks for passing this on! I'm so glad someone was ahead of me on tackling
this need.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
wrote:

 Oops! I forgot to include the install script:

 tar -xvf zim-0.62.tar.gz
 cd zim-0.62
 sudo python setup.py install
 cd -
 rm -rf zim-0.62
 sugar-install-bundle zim-4.xo

 The easy way is to use a 4GB usb drive (with 1-2GB free). Suppose the
 drive label is XYZ.
 Copy the tarball to this drive. Copy zim-4.xo as well.

 On an XO, open the Terminal activity (may not be a favorite - so launch
 from list view)
 You will see the prompt line ending in '$'. Enter the following commands
 (omitting the $ which is there to show that the command follows the $
 prompt.) The # introduces a comment, so don't type the # or the text
 following

 $cd /run/media/olpc/XYZ #XYZ is the usb drive label, on older builds, cd
 /media/XYZ may work.
 $nano zim-install $nano is a simple text editor

 Paste the script in the blank area, nano requires 'ctrl' + 'V', not 'ctrl'
 + 'v' (i.e. ctrl+shift+v)

 Enter 'ctrl' + 'x' to quit nano (answer Y to save the file).

 $cat zim-install #shows the content of the file to verify all is well

 $bash zim-install #runs the script

 The install takes a few minutes and displays a lot of messages.

 You can execute zim in the Gnome Desktop (should be in accessories).

 You can execute it from the Terminal activity:

 $zim

 You can launch the zim activity (should be in favorites). After it
 launches, click on the word zim in the toolbar.

 Since zim is not a native Sugar activity, there will be two icons on the
 frame: the zim icon and a grey circle. The grey circle shows the Zim
 screen, the icon shows the Zim activity screen. To quit zim, use the quit
 in the file menu or the 'x' in the top right corner. Normally, this will
 show the Zim activity screen. The normal quit button in the toolbar will
 terminate the activity.

 The web site is http://zim-wiki.org/. There is also a built-in manual
 (click on help in the Zim toolbar and click on the contents option).

 Yours,

 Tony


 On 02/21/2015 08:52 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Note-taking
 Message-ID:54e7d6d4.1090...@usa.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed

 Hi, Sora

 I have been using zim desktop wiki. I think it would fit this
 application very well. It installs and runs on
 all versions of XO.


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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF February meeting

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Thanks for passing that on, Gonzalo! (note to self: when embarking on a
project, first go to Sugar Labs and search extremely-relevant terms like
Story instead of just assuming the stuff you've seen / used before is the
only stuff that exists).

I like the open-endedness of Story. It also looks like it might not be hard
to modify the images it's using - kids could nominate different pictures,
or you could take examples from stories the class had read.





On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:

 You can add Story http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4565

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org
 wrote:

 Hello all,

 We're looking for programming help on student writing software; hope some
 OLPC SF folks can become involved! I'm over on the East Coast, but I can
 join in over Skype / respond to questions via email if folks are interested.

 Here are some more details:
 Unleash Kids recently received recognition
 http://www.unleashkids.org/blog/ for our iloominate
 http://iloominate-haiti.herokuapp.com/edit app (shout-out to Caryl
 Bigenho for her input and Mike Dawson, whose Ustad Mobile project was also
 recognized). The app helps teachers write books
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/lascahobas-workshops-final-review/
 for beginning readers by recommending easy words; now we're shifting our
 focus to supporting student writers.

 There are already several excellent writing activities for the Sugar,
 which we're including as we design lessons for a summer writing workshop
 for our XO projects in Haiti:

 -Labyrinth http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078, a
 mindmapping activity that gets kids thinking
 http://www.unleashkids.org/2013/07/31/story-activity-continued-and-the-results/
 about how to lay out their ideas on paper
 -Fototoon http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4253,
 comic-book style creations; a perpetual favorite
 https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/first-week-of-classes/
 -Newspaper http://seeta.in/j/products/37.html, an example of how
 templates can enable kids
 http://blog.unleashkids.org/2013/08/01/journal-mission-of-hope/ to
 explore new formats
 -Prompt http://olpc-yokwe.tumblr.com/post/39897602954/prompt-activity,
 literally just presents students with a random image from a library for
 them to write about...proof that simple stuff can be powerful

 We want to supplement these great activities with some new stuff, based
 on teacher recommendations. A lot of the focus will be on creating
 templates and scenarios that kids can use as inspiration - for example, we
 can present the kids with a scene of people talking, where the speech
 bubbles aren't filled in, and ask them to fill in the speech bubbles.
 That's one of many ideas for an effective tool.

 We also hope to make use of the XSCE schoolserver installed on-site to
 enable the kids to collaborate and share the finished products with one
 another.

 Our most dire need is help with the programming, but we also welcome
 input on any and all aspects.

 Thank you everyone!

 Sora Edwards-Thro

 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Aaron Borden adbor...@live.com wrote:

 Hello,

 OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
 February 14th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
 Street, Room 597 (the fishbowl).

 Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
 welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
 latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
 projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
 play around with, too. Please post with any additional agenda
 items.

 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/325843320953044/
 Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/crf7g4e84aag78ssn761danaj8s

 --
 Aaron Borden
 Human and Hacker

 ___
 IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
 IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep



 ___
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 IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep




 --
 Gonzalo Odiard

 SugarLabs - Software for children learning

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[IAEP] Note-taking

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Hi all,

For our upcoming literacy project in Haiti, we'd like users to have the
ability to take notes on books while they're reading them - basic things
like highlighting, drawing arrows and such, or leaving text comments. It
would be nice if they could then save those notes.

I'm guessing many of the books we are using will be available as ePub or
PDF. I know the XO activity Read supports those formats, but I don't think
it has all the features listed above.

So, should we be looking to modify the Read activity or modify the texts
themselves, in order to enable those features for readers?

Thanks for the advice, everyone!

Sora
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF February meeting

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Hello all,

We're looking for programming help on student writing software; hope some
OLPC SF folks can become involved! I'm over on the East Coast, but I can
join in over Skype / respond to questions via email if folks are interested.

Here are some more details:
Unleash Kids recently received recognition
http://www.unleashkids.org/blog/ for our iloominate
http://iloominate-haiti.herokuapp.com/edit app (shout-out to Caryl
Bigenho for her input and Mike Dawson, whose Ustad Mobile project was also
recognized). The app helps teachers write books
https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/lascahobas-workshops-final-review/
for beginning readers by recommending easy words; now we're shifting our
focus to supporting student writers.

There are already several excellent writing activities for the Sugar, which
we're including as we design lessons for a summer writing workshop for our
XO projects in Haiti:

-Labyrinth http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078, a
mindmapping activity that gets kids thinking
http://www.unleashkids.org/2013/07/31/story-activity-continued-and-the-results/
about how to lay out their ideas on paper
-Fototoon http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4253,
comic-book style creations; a perpetual favorite
https://projectrive.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/first-week-of-classes/
-Newspaper http://seeta.in/j/products/37.html, an example of how
templates can enable kids
http://blog.unleashkids.org/2013/08/01/journal-mission-of-hope/ to
explore new formats
-Prompt http://olpc-yokwe.tumblr.com/post/39897602954/prompt-activity,
literally just presents students with a random image from a library for
them to write about...proof that simple stuff can be powerful

We want to supplement these great activities with some new stuff, based on
teacher recommendations. A lot of the focus will be on creating templates
and scenarios that kids can use as inspiration - for example, we can
present the kids with a scene of people talking, where the speech bubbles
aren't filled in, and ask them to fill in the speech bubbles. That's one of
many ideas for an effective tool.

We also hope to make use of the XSCE schoolserver installed on-site to
enable the kids to collaborate and share the finished products with one
another.

Our most dire need is help with the programming, but we also welcome input
on any and all aspects.

Thank you everyone!

Sora Edwards-Thro

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Aaron Borden adbor...@live.com wrote:

 Hello,

 OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
 February 14th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
 Street, Room 597 (the fishbowl).

 Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
 welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
 latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
 projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
 play around with, too. Please post with any additional agenda
 items.

 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/325843320953044/
 Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/crf7g4e84aag78ssn761danaj8s

 --
 Aaron Borden
 Human and Hacker

 ___
 IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
 IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

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Re: [IAEP] Fwd: How Does the New Haitian Sûrtab Tablet Measure Up?

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

We received text messages about it on our Haitian cell phone numbers
several times a day when it first came out (Digicel, the group selling it,
is Haiti's most popular cell company).

It's great to see electronics being manufactured there. The idea that it
can be dropped off at the factory for repairs is appealing.

But, low battery life and the nonstandard charger make this much less
suitable for the majority of Haitians. You don't buy your cell phone from a
store. You buy it from the street. Most people charge their cell phones on
the street too.

As far as WiFi goes, most Internet users purchase USB dongles, and it
sounds like they won't work in this port.

ever heard of this?

 Original Message   Subject: How Does the New Haitian
Sûrtab Tablet Measure Up?  Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:00:36 +  From: Inveneo
j...@inveneo.org j...@inveneo.org  Reply-To:
us4-6589affec7-f2ed88c...@conversation01.mailchimpapp.comus4-6589affec7-f2ed88c...@conversation01.mailchimpapp.com
 To:
Yamandu yamap...@gmail.com yamap...@gmail.com

   Email not displaying correctly? View it in your
browser.http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7id=2263e3beb6e=486ae1ca5b
  [image: Inveneo: Connecting Those Who Need It
Most]http://ictworks.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7id=768f5c8039e=486ae1ca5b
 How Does the New Haitian Sûrtab Tablet
Measure 
Up?http://ictworks.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7id=174c7a38a3e=486ae1ca5b
By Sam Perales, Inveneo Senior Field Engineer

Since 2013, consumers have had their eye on a new Haitian-made tablet,
known as the Sûrtab. It's price and weight may seem ideal, but how does it
measure up in terms of  durability? With all of Inveneo's work in
Haitihttp://ictworks.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7id=5dd5f30e1de=486ae1ca5b,
the team wanted to run the Sûrtab7 WIFI through the paces using Inveneo's
standard testing
processhttp://ictworks.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7id=a6c0df4915e=486ae1ca5bto
see how well the Sûrtab performs.

What were the results?

*Product Description*

Sûrtab tablet manufacture is producing lightweight and affordable tablets
made in Port au Prince, Haiti. This is a new company, and availability is
limited as they ramp up operations. They are currently offering three
models: Sûrtab7 3GHD, Sûrtab7 3G, and Sûrtab7 WIFI.

Inveneo decided to review the lowest-cost touchscreen Sûrtab7 WIFI model.

Sûrtab7 WIFI comes at an affordable price of ($100 USD +/-) making it
attractive for consumers (especially those in developing countries). The
Sûrtab7 WIFI comes with Android 4.1 and access to the Google Play store
which has over 600,000 apps and games. The Sûrtab7 WIFI is a 7-inch device
with a resolution of 1024 x 600 pixels.

In addition, the tablet:

   -

   Runs on a Dual Core Allwinner 1.2GHz processor.
-

   Comes with 512MB of RAM.
-

   Has 8GB of storage expandable to 32GB via the microSD card.
-

   Features an HDMI port and two cameras (0.3MP in front and 2MP on the
   back).
-

   Is very lightweight, weighing in at 287 g / 0.63 lbs which makes it easy
   for travel and transport.

A warranty is available, and in Haiti, tablets will be repaired at the
factory. Inveno's Sûrtab representative explains further. The local
support/warranty is huge when used in Haiti. The tablet can just be dropped
off at the Sûrtab production facilities and will get repaired.

*Inveneo's Quick Thoughts*

*Pros:*

   - Budget friendly
   - A protective rubber case for harsh environments is included with tablet
   - Lightweight
   - Front and back camera
   - SD card expansion and HDMI port

*Cons:*

   - Screen can be hard to see depending on angle of view and its display
   is not very bright making it hard to see at times.
   - Battery life is limited, 2-4 hours under stress conditions.
   - Has a special power port and adapter (not the common micro-USB) which
   may be difficult to replace if lost or stolen.
   - Limited availability for the time being although surtab will be
   launching an online sales platform making it easy for international
   customers to easily purchase tablets.

*Since the Sûrtab7 WIFI Is Cheaper, Does That Mean Lower Quality?*

Since the Sûrtab7 WIFI is nearly half the price of its competitors, it is
natural that the overall performance and hardware specifications would be
lower than those of its rivals, for example:

   - The battery life is poor, surviving only 2.5 hours under cpu stressed
   conditions.
   - The display is not as sharp nor bright as other tablets in its class,
   and depending on what angle you view the display, it could limit visibility.
   - The non-standard barrel connector power port makes it difficult to
   find a replacement, especially in developing countries. This means you'll
   have more equipment to handle and maintain.
   - The micro-usb adapter is only used to connect it 

Re: [IAEP] Open Source Software Opportunities

[Sora Edwards-Thro]

Hey Caryl,

I noticed you included the Enabling Writers contest with its top prize of
$100,000 in your blog post. Just wanted to put out there that Nick Doiron
and I have already started working on our entry; there's some
proof-of-concept code up on github https://github.com/mapmeld/iloominate.
We're still in the early stages but maybe that's the best time for people
to jump on / put in their own 2 cents.

Thanks all,

Sora


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 Last week I gave a talk at the San Gabriel Valley Linux Users Group
 (SGVLUG) about volunteering for OLPC projects and other open source
 educational projects. I promised to put links for the resources and
 contacts online on the ossie-SoCal blog website. Today I started putting
 things up and discovered that it was going to take a little longer than I
 expected.

 So far, I have just put up those opportunities related to software. If you
 would like to check them out (including a software development contest with
 a $100,000 prize), you will find descriptions and links available at:

 http://socalossie.wordpress.com

 I will be adding opportunities to volunteer with various small deployments
 in the near future. If you sent information before, it will be included. If
 you have something else you would like me to include, send the information.
 If you have  other software opportunities you would like to let people know
 about, you can add them in the comments to the current post.

 Caryl

 P.S. Braddock, could you post this on the SGVLUG list?

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