Bigs and Littles?
-Kathy
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From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.
org] On Behalf Of Caroline Meeks
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:35 PM
To: Sean DALY
Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] idea for consolidated Sugar feedback + a
newname for our "users"
Another thought is Kid and Grown-Up. If we called our users Kids it would
emphasis that we are always thinking about our age range when we work on
Sugar. We are building a tool especially for kids and the grownups
(teachers, parents etc.) who help them learn.
2009/5/26 Sean DALY
Sugar, to me, represents the courage of starting from scratch to build
the best learning environment for kids there is. With the associated
risks - of being different, being in unfamiliar territory, doing
things in untraditional ways.
I can't bring myself to call my kids "users" of Sugar. Yet, a name for
their role when they are doing/making Sugar is appropriate... they
have a place, they have a colored symbol of themselves... a shared
experience with others who are there to do something very similar.
We find it normal to class people by what they do: "Chess players
practice openings." "Knitters often prefer purl stitching."
"Bicyclists often wear bright colors to be more visible." In each of
these cases, the role of the person is in some way defined by the
necessary objects - Chess players with a chessboard and pieces (and
usually another chess player), knitters with needles and yarn,
bicyclists with their bikes. It's obvious that these labels are
reductive, but what is gained is that they are precise - they are
descriptive in a way "users" can't be, it's too generic.
The idea behind "users" is to be all-inclusive, since computers are
general-purpose data processing machines. I would submit that Sugar is
a special case because its "users" are children... and I appreciate
Jonas when he says that we grownups don't need our roles to fit into
traditional descriptors either. That's outside-the-box thinking in my
view.
To Eben - on the contrary, I think it's important to publicly
complement our Activities (capital A since collaborative applications
specific to Sugar) with Learners (capital L since users with a role
specific to Sugar). I don't think this nomenclature will confuse
anyone, but instead clarify Sugar's positioning and differentiation.
Teachers will understand it right away I think.
Sean
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 02:02:40PM -0400, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>Docs that don't use familiar language can be a turnoff. 'User' is a
>>familiar nuisance. 'Supporter' might also be apporpriate, since some
>>people who follow and care about sugar do not use it day to day and
>>are passing on the opinions of others, or their observation of others.
>
> I really like the term "Learners". It indicates awareness - active
> participation. The term "Users" to me is more related to "Consumers"
> (not the word itself, but its use in my part of the world).
>
> I agree that there are others involved in Sugar than Developers and
> Learners. But as I see it, the examples raised - Supporters - are not
> Users either :-P
>
> I do not consider myself a Sugar Developer, and not a Sugar Learner. I
> consider myself a Sugar Packager and (as representative of Debian) a
> Sugar Distributor.
>
>
> Oh, and while we are at it: I suggest calling it "Authors" instead of
> "Developers". Developers tend to emphasize the techies which is quite
> unfair especially to a project like Sugar: Authors include both code
> Programmers, graphics/interface Designers and content
> Writers/Composers/Illustrators.
>
>
> Authors → Packagers → Distributors → Deployers → Administrators →
> Learners
>
> (arrgh - too long to fit a single line :-( )
>
> ...and alongside all of those are Supporters, which includes
> Fundraisers, Managers and Inspirators.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> - Jonas
>
> - --
> * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt
> * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/
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