Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Laura

Obviously, if these suggestions are shared, members of the community can 
respond and possibly make suggestions leading to
improvements. Equally obviously, if we don't know what they are - 
nothing can happen.


Tony


On 09/22/2017 01:59 PM, Laura Vargas wrote:



2017-09-22 12:22 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson >:


Laura

"Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this
teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?"

I would love to see all these teacher's and children's suggestions
and ideas. Could you please share them with us?



Tony,

I still don't have the procedure clear.

What happens once the teacher's and children's ideas are shared?


Looks like there is no procedure defined currently.



Regards
Laura


Tony


On 09/22/2017 12:25 PM, Laura Vargas wrote:

Tony

The fact that you don't understand the idea/proposal is not relevant.

Please consider an answer about procedure is expected.


What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user
requirement?

Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this
teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?

Regards

2017-09-22 9:48 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson >:

** To be able to download new Activities directly from the
User Interface.*


I have no idea what you mean by this.  Downloading files from
the internet or from a school server is done by a browser
(e.g. webkit). In Sugar,
this capability is provided by the Browse activity. I think
most people would consider launching a browser as a normal
part of the user interface of their system.

Perhaps it would be helpful if you could describe
specifically what you mean by the Sugar user interface and
why Browse is not part of it.


Tony





On 09/22/2017 10:22 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:



2017-09-22 8:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson >:



On 09/22/2017 07:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:

Let's say for example a teacher on field suggests we
should make downloading new activities easy and
doable from the Sugar User Interface. What should
the teacher do with his/her idea? 



First, we need a way for the teacher to make that
request. Perhaps we need something on the SugarLabs web
site that steers a user to a support forum.


Yes Sugar Labs Website is an example of the many ways today
we can get the requirements from teachers.

That said the solution you suggest (using another activity)
doesn't respond to the requirement. The requirement in the
example was:
*
*
** To be able to download new Activities directly from the
User Interface.*


This feature requirement needs a *design process to
integrate the functionality within the experience and the
interface*.

Still, the teacher may not have the skills to do all this.


What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the
user requirement?

Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all
this teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?


Moving to IAEP as the topic is relevant to teachers not only
developers

Regards

-- 
Laura V.

*I SomosAZUCAR.Org*

“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
~ L. Victoria

Happy Learning!
#LearningByDoing
#Projects4good
#IDesignATSugarLabs
#WeCanDoBetter






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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

[Laura Vargas]

2017-09-22 12:22 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson :

> Laura
>
> "Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this teacher's
> and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?"
>
> I would love to see all these teacher's and children's suggestions and
> ideas. Could you please share them with us?
>


Tony,

I still don't have the procedure clear.

What happens once the teacher's and children's ideas are shared?


Looks like there is no procedure defined currently.



Regards
Laura


>
> Tony
>
>
> On 09/22/2017 12:25 PM, Laura Vargas wrote:
>
> Tony
>
> The fact that you don't understand the idea/proposal is not relevant.
>
> Please consider an answer about procedure is expected.
>
>
> What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user requirement?
>
> Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this teacher's
> and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?
>
> Regards
>
> 2017-09-22 9:48 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson :
>
>> ** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User
>> Interface.*
>>
>>
>> I have no idea what you mean by this.  Downloading files from the
>> internet or from a school server is done by a browser (e.g. webkit). In
>> Sugar,
>> this capability is provided by the Browse activity. I think most people
>> would consider launching a browser as a normal part of the user interface
>> of their system.
>>
>> Perhaps it would be helpful if you could describe specifically what you
>> mean by the Sugar user interface and why Browse is not part of it.
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/22/2017 10:22 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-09-22 8:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/22/2017 07:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:
>>>
 Let's say for example a teacher on field suggests we should make
 downloading new activities easy and doable from the Sugar User Interface.
 What should the teacher do with his/her idea?
>>>
>>>
>>> First, we need a way for the teacher to make that request. Perhaps we
>>> need something on the SugarLabs web site that steers a user to a support
>>> forum.
>>>
>>
>> Yes Sugar Labs Website is an example of the many ways today we can get
>> the requirements from teachers.
>>
>> That said the solution you suggest (using another activity) doesn't
>> respond to the requirement. The requirement in the example was:
>>
>> ** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User
>> Interface.*
>>
>>
>> This feature requirement needs a *design process to integrate the
>> functionality within the experience and the interface*.
>>
>> Still, the teacher may not have the skills to do all this.
>>
>>
>> What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user requirement?
>>
>> Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this teacher's
>> and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?
>>
>>
>> Moving to IAEP as the topic is relevant to teachers not only developers
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> Laura V.
>> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>
>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> ~ L. Victoria
>>
>> Happy Learning!
>> #LearningByDoing
>> #Projects4good
>> #IDesignATSugarLabs
>> #WeCanDoBetter
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
> ~ L. Victoria
>
> Happy Learning!
> #LearningByDoing
> #Projects4good
> #IDesignATSugarLabs
> #WeCanDoBetter
>
>
>


-- 
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~ L. Victoria

Happy Learning!
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#Projects4good
#IDesignATSugarLabs
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

[Tony Anderson]

Laura

"Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this 
teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?"


I would love to see all these teacher's and children's suggestions and 
ideas. Could you please share them with us?


Tony

On 09/22/2017 12:25 PM, Laura Vargas wrote:

Tony

The fact that you don't understand the idea/proposal is not relevant.

Please consider an answer about procedure is expected.


What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user requirement?

Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this 
teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?


Regards

2017-09-22 9:48 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson >:


** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User
Interface.*


I have no idea what you mean by this. Downloading files from the
internet or from a school server is done by a browser (e.g.
webkit). In Sugar,
this capability is provided by the Browse activity. I think most
people would consider launching a browser as a normal part of the
user interface of their system.

Perhaps it would be helpful if you could describe specifically
what you mean by the Sugar user interface and why Browse is not
part of it.


Tony





On 09/22/2017 10:22 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:



2017-09-22 8:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson >:



On 09/22/2017 07:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:

Let's say for example a teacher on field suggests we
should make downloading new activities easy and doable
from the Sugar User Interface. What should the teacher do
with his/her idea? 



First, we need a way for the teacher to make that request.
Perhaps we need something on the SugarLabs web site that
steers a user to a support forum.


Yes Sugar Labs Website is an example of the many ways today we
can get the requirements from teachers.

That said the solution you suggest (using another activity)
doesn't respond to the requirement. The requirement in the
example was:
*
*
** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User
Interface.*


This feature requirement needs a *design process to integrate the
functionality within the experience and the interface*.

Still, the teacher may not have the skills to do all this.


What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user
requirement?

Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this
teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?


Moving to IAEP as the topic is relevant to teachers not only
developers

Regards

-- 
Laura V.

*I SomosAZUCAR.Org*

“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
~ L. Victoria

Happy Learning!
#LearningByDoing
#Projects4good
#IDesignATSugarLabs
#WeCanDoBetter






--
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“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
~ L. Victoria

Happy Learning!
#LearningByDoing
#Projects4good
#IDesignATSugarLabs
#WeCanDoBetter



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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

[Laura Vargas]

Tony

The fact that you don't understand the idea/proposal is not relevant.

Please consider an answer about procedure is expected.


What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user requirement?

Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this teacher's
and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?

Regards

2017-09-22 9:48 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson :

> ** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User Interface.*
>
>
> I have no idea what you mean by this.  Downloading files from the internet
> or from a school server is done by a browser (e.g. webkit). In Sugar,
> this capability is provided by the Browse activity. I think most people
> would consider launching a browser as a normal part of the user interface
> of their system.
>
> Perhaps it would be helpful if you could describe specifically what you
> mean by the Sugar user interface and why Browse is not part of it.
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> On 09/22/2017 10:22 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:
>
>
>
> 2017-09-22 8:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson :
>
>>
>>
>> On 09/22/2017 07:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:
>>
>>> Let's say for example a teacher on field suggests we should make
>>> downloading new activities easy and doable from the Sugar User Interface.
>>> What should the teacher do with his/her idea?
>>
>>
>> First, we need a way for the teacher to make that request. Perhaps we
>> need something on the SugarLabs web site that steers a user to a support
>> forum.
>>
>
> Yes Sugar Labs Website is an example of the many ways today we can get the
> requirements from teachers.
>
> That said the solution you suggest (using another activity) doesn't
> respond to the requirement. The requirement in the example was:
>
> ** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User Interface.*
>
>
> This feature requirement needs a *design process to integrate the
> functionality within the experience and the interface*.
>
> Still, the teacher may not have the skills to do all this.
>
>
> What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user requirement?
>
> Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this teacher's
> and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?
>
>
> Moving to IAEP as the topic is relevant to teachers not only developers
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Laura V.
> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
> ~ L. Victoria
>
> Happy Learning!
> #LearningByDoing
> #Projects4good
> #IDesignATSugarLabs
> #WeCanDoBetter
>
>
>


-- 
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~ L. Victoria

Happy Learning!
#LearningByDoing
#Projects4good
#IDesignATSugarLabs
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

[Tony Anderson]

** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User Interface.*


I have no idea what you mean by this.  Downloading files from the 
internet or from a school server is done by a browser (e.g. webkit). In 
Sugar,
this capability is provided by the Browse activity. I think most people 
would consider launching a browser as a normal part of the user 
interface of their system.


Perhaps it would be helpful if you could describe specifically what you 
mean by the Sugar user interface and why Browse is not part of it.



Tony




On 09/22/2017 10:22 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:



2017-09-22 8:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson >:




On 09/22/2017 07:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:

Let's say for example a teacher on field suggests we should
make downloading new activities easy and doable from the Sugar
User Interface. What should the teacher do with his/her idea? 



First, we need a way for the teacher to make that request. Perhaps
we need something on the SugarLabs web site that steers a user to
a support forum.


Yes Sugar Labs Website is an example of the many ways today we can get 
the requirements from teachers.


That said the solution you suggest (using another activity) doesn't 
respond to the requirement. The requirement in the example was:

*
*
** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User 
Interface.*



This feature requirement needs a *design process to integrate the 
functionality within the experience and the interface*.


Still, the teacher may not have the skills to do all this.


What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user requirement?

Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this 
teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?



Moving to IAEP as the topic is relevant to teachers not only developers

Regards

--
Laura V.
*I SomosAZUCAR.Org*

“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
~ L. Victoria

Happy Learning!
#LearningByDoing
#Projects4good
#IDesignATSugarLabs
#WeCanDoBetter



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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

[Laura Vargas]

2017-09-22 8:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson :

>
>
> On 09/22/2017 07:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:
>
>> Let's say for example a teacher on field suggests we should make
>> downloading new activities easy and doable from the Sugar User Interface.
>> What should the teacher do with his/her idea?
>
>
> First, we need a way for the teacher to make that request. Perhaps we need
> something on the SugarLabs web site that steers a user to a support forum.
>

Yes Sugar Labs Website is an example of the many ways today we can get the
requirements from teachers.

That said the solution you suggest (using another activity) doesn't respond
to the requirement. The requirement in the example was:

** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User Interface.*


This feature requirement needs a *design process to integrate the
functionality within the experience and the interface*.

Still, the teacher may not have the skills to do all this.


What happens once we (Sugar Labs Design Team) do get the user requirement?

Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this teacher's
and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?


Moving to IAEP as the topic is relevant to teachers not only developers

Regards

-- 
Laura V.
* I SomosAZUCAR.Org*

“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
~ L. Victoria

Happy Learning!
#LearningByDoing
#Projects4good
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