Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Edward Cherlin]

Here is another important point. We have a lot of Sugar and XO
documentation at FLOSS Manuals, with only a few titles in Spanish. We
are organizing a major push to get all of our materials translated.
The manual for Terminal should be out in Spanish soon, and its
translator promises another title ASAP. FM's new booki software has
just gone live, with a new set of translation tools coming on line
quite soon.

Some of our titles would be of interest in Spanish-speaking countries
even apart from Sugar, such as Introduction to the Command Line.

Having materials in Spanish should help in the argument. Of course,
there is a lot of other material, such as Plan CEIBAL's publications.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:58, Christoph Derndorfer
 wrote:
> Am 20.03.2011 20:13, schrieb Edward Cherlin:
>> Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in
>> Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar
>> on their laptops.
>>
>> http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/
>>
>> Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list?
>
> Not yet, that's an excellent suggestion! :-)
>
>> There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its
>> Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago
>>
>> How's your Spanish?
>
> I'm half-decently fluent I'd say (you can hear a short sample at the
> beginning of this interview:
> http://portal.educ.ar/noticias/entrevistas/especialistas-modelos-11-talle-1.php).
>
> Thanks,
> Christoph
>
>>> and will
>>> be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.
>>>
>>> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
>>> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?
>>>
>>> I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
>>> related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
>>> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christoph Derndorfer
>>> co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
>>> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
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>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Christoph Derndorfer
> co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
>



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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Christoph Derndorfer]

If we take a step back I think David's observation really hits the nail
on the head in a broader sense.

While FLOSS solutions don't have the traditional vendor lock-in they do
often seem to come with some sort of platform lock-in (as per David's
example wrt custom educational tools).

Hence for example in the Sugar context I think that the efforts by
Walter and others to get a foot in the door of Argentina's Conectar
Igualdad program early on is vitally important. Two, three years down
the road it would probably take significantly more momentum to get Sugar
accepted in an already established environment.

As we'll probably see several initiatives similar to Conectar Igualdad
in the coming years and it makes sense to reach out to them early on.

Cheers,
Christoph

Am 22.03.2011 20:36, schrieb David Van Assche:
> While working at guadalinex I seriously pushed to include sugar. 
> Resistance was futile as the Borg might say. You see they have a pretty
> established Linux environment that has many custom educational tools. 
> It is an extremely uphill battle to get them using even a tiny part of
> sugar,  and that coming from an ex-INSIDER.  so good luck.
> 
> Regards
> David
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM, "Juan Rafael Fernández García"
>> mailto:jrf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> 2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer > >:
>>
>>
>> > Especially given how much Linux is used around
>> > schools in the country and that Latin America is...
>>
>> I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in
>> France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU
>> Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of
>> by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from
>> the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South
>> American one (OLPC or similar hardware).
>>
>> Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of
>> them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system
>> has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services,
>> etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an
>> environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an
>> alternative independent approach.
>>
>> IMHO.
>>
>> -- 
>> Juan Rafael Fernández
>> http://people.ofset.org/jrfernandez/
>>

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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[David Van Assche]

While working at guadalinex I seriously pushed to include sugar.  Resistance
was futile as the Borg might say. You see they have a pretty established
Linux environment that has many custom educational tools.  It is an
extremely uphill battle to get them using even a tiny part of sugar,  and
that coming from an ex-INSIDER.  so good luck.

Regards
David

On Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM, "Juan Rafael Fernández García" 
wrote:

2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer :


> Especially given how much Linux is used around
> schools in the country and that Latin America is...
I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in
France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU
Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of
by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from
the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South
American one (OLPC or similar hardware).

Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of
them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system
has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services,
etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an
environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an
alternative independent approach.

IMHO.

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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Juan Rafael Fernández García]

2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer :

> Especially given how much Linux is used around
> schools in the country and that Latin America is the hotbed for all
> things OLPC and 1-to-1 computing at the moment I'm simply surprised that
> there's no established olpc/Sugar community here already.

I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in
France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU
Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of
by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from
the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South
American one (OLPC or similar hardware).

Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of
them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system
has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services,
etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an
environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an
alternative independent approach.

IMHO.
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Christoph Derndorfer]

Gustavo, David,

thanks for the information, background and links, keep 'em coming.

Given the constraints of my situation (mainly time) the main (only)
thing I'd like to do is try and establish some sort of olpc/Sugar
presence while I'm here. Especially given how much Linux is used around
schools in the country and that Latin America is the hotbed for all
things OLPC and 1-to-1 computing at the moment I'm simply surprised that
there's no established olpc/Sugar community here already.

Cheers,
Christoph

Am 21.03.2011 15:03, schrieb David Van Assche:
> Bah... ok...perhaps that was a bit of harsh statement. meh would
> be better... However, I have met many south Americans down here who
> want to get involved and us the sugar environment in their future
> endevours once they return home. I worked for Guadalinex.-edu, the
> largest single Linux deployment in the world conclusion: Great
> softwware, not tailored enough for them (5 million computer, 500
> laptops per year, Ubuntu latest, but via something complex like rsync
> or anything like that... that just made a great job at adding
> important parts if they were educational, and spoke about them the
> folllowing year to see if others might want to include it. The biggest
> advantage here is that because Spain now had over 10 years fo
> successfully using Linux in all areas of life, its just  a mtter of
> showing any new things to make teahcers lives easier and really
> kissing their asses so they cna push the rest if spain. Its clear
> though, Linux is here to stay in Andalucia now hwat to u primtive
> northern  folks say to that.
>
> kind regrads,
> David Van Assche
>
> [Please Please read above]
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gustavo Ibarra  wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:
>>> Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in
>>> Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar
>>> on their laptops.
>>>
>>> http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/
>> more related links:
>> http://tinyurl.com/5w7ocee
>> http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis
>> squeakpo...@juntaextremadura.net
>>
>> Diego an José L worked in the "squeak inextremadura" project and as
>> far as iknow they live in spain
>>
>> Diego Gomez Deck
>> José L. Redrejo Rodríguez 
>>
>>
>>> Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list?
>>>
>>> There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its
>>> Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer
>>>  wrote:
 Hi all,

 as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago
>>> How's your Spanish?
>>>
 and will
 be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.

 Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
 olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?

 I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
 related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
 (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.
> Well the first step has been to try and get `people together here
> which is damn hard... Iv'e ad 4-5 people involed here and we are
> quickly moving towards creating a more ideas towards creating some
> sort of charter fo what is an ettiquette of sorts, but nothing too
> restrictive, more things like, if u'd like to something, then just set
> a non conflicting date and do it
>
> David
>
 Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.

 Thanks,
 Christoph

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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
>>> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
>>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
>>> http://www.earthtreasury.org/
>>> ___
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>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>
>>
>> --
>> Saludos,
>> Gustavo.-
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Christoph Derndorfer]

Am 20.03.2011 20:13, schrieb Edward Cherlin:
> Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in
> Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar
> on their laptops.
> 
> http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/
> 
> Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list?

Not yet, that's an excellent suggestion! :-)

> There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its
> Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer
>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago
> 
> How's your Spanish?

I'm half-decently fluent I'd say (you can hear a short sample at the
beginning of this interview:
http://portal.educ.ar/noticias/entrevistas/especialistas-modelos-11-talle-1.php).

Thanks,
Christoph

>> and will
>> be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.
>>
>> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
>> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?
>>
>> I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
>> related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
>> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.
>>
>> Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Christoph
>>
>> --
>> Christoph Derndorfer
>> co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
>> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
>> ___
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>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[David Van Assche]

Bah... ok...perhaps that was a bit of harsh statement. meh would
be better... However, I have met many south Americans down here who
want to get involved and us the sugar environment in their future
endevours once they return home. I worked for Guadalinex.-edu, the
largest single Linux deployment in the world conclusion: Great
softwware, not tailored enough for them (5 million computer, 500
laptops per year, Ubuntu latest, but via something complex like rsync
or anything like that... that just made a great job at adding
important parts if they were educational, and spoke about them the
folllowing year to see if others might want to include it. The biggest
advantage here is that because Spain now had over 10 years fo
successfully using Linux in all areas of life, its just  a mtter of
showing any new things to make teahcers lives easier and really
kissing their asses so they cna push the rest if spain. Its clear
though, Linux is here to stay in Andalucia now hwat to u primtive
northern  folks say to that.

kind regrads,
David Van Assche

[Please Please read above]

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gustavo Ibarra  wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:
>> Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in
>> Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar
>> on their laptops.
>>
>> http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/
>
> more related links:
> http://tinyurl.com/5w7ocee
> http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis
> squeakpo...@juntaextremadura.net
>
> Diego an José L worked in the "squeak inextremadura" project and as
> far as iknow they live in spain
>
> Diego Gomez Deck        
> José L. Redrejo Rodríguez 
>
>
>> Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list?
>>
>> There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its
>> Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago
>>
>> How's your Spanish?
>>
>>> and will
>>> be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.
>>>
>>> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
>>> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?
>>>
>>> I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
>>> related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
>>> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.

Well the first step has been to try and get `people together here
which is damn hard... Iv'e ad 4-5 people involed here and we are
quickly moving towards creating a more ideas towards creating some
sort of charter fo what is an ettiquette of sorts, but nothing too
restrictive, more things like, if u'd like to something, then just set
a non conflicting date and do it

David

>>> Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christoph Derndorfer
>>> co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
>>> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
>>> ___
>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
>> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
>> http://www.earthtreasury.org/
>> ___
>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>
>
>
> --
> Saludos,
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Gustavo Ibarra]

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:
> Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in
> Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar
> on their laptops.
>
> http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/

more related links:
http://tinyurl.com/5w7ocee
http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis
squeakpo...@juntaextremadura.net

Diego an José L worked in the "squeak inextremadura" project and as
far as iknow they live in spain

Diego Gomez Deck
José L. Redrejo Rodríguez 


> Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list?
>
> There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its
> Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it.
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer
>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago
>
> How's your Spanish?
>
>> and will
>> be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.
>>
>> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
>> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?
>>
>> I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
>> related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
>> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.
>>
>> Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Christoph
>>
>> --
>> Christoph Derndorfer
>> co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
>> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
>> ___
>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
> http://www.earthtreasury.org/
> ___
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Edward Cherlin]

Not an OLPC project, but there is a lot of Linux in the schools in
Extremadura. You could talk to the local government about using Sugar
on their laptops.

http://news.squeak.org/2006/11/17/squeak-in-extremadura/

Have you asked on the OLPC-SUR list?

There seems to have been a very modest OLPC España effort, but its
Wiki page has vanished away. Perhaps you can help restart it.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago

How's your Spanish?

> and will
> be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.
>
> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?
>
> I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
> related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.
>
> Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.
>
> Thanks,
> Christoph
>
> --
> Christoph Derndorfer
> co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
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The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Frederick Grose]

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM, David Van Assche wrote:

> In spain, most autonomous regions have their own distro, which means
> that in essence getting pro-linux, and even quite techinically savy
> folks in that domain should be pretty easy to find. I know Madrid
> itself has its own autonomous linux distro called distro MAX (Madrid
> Linux) Of course, it often becomes a marketing competition rather than
> something else, but it does mean a high usage of linux across the
> public board. Trying to get them to include "new" things though, is
> sometimes very very hard (example: sugar)
>

Note that Trisquel, and Trisquel On A Sugar Toast,
http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-sugar
have been leaders in Sugar distribution.
http://trisquel.info/en/faq

 --Fred


> But good luck,
> David Van Assche
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[David Van Assche]

In spain, most autonomous regions have their own distro, which means
that in essence getting pro-linux, and even quite techinically savy
folks in that domain should be pretty easy to find. I know Madrid
itself has its own autonomous linux distro called distro MAX (Madrid
Linux) Of course, it often becomes a marketing competition rather than
something else, but it does mean a high usage of linux across the
public board. Trying to get them to include "new" things though, is
sometimes very very hard (example: sugar)

But good luck,
David Van Assche

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Gustavo Ibarra  wrote:
> you might want to write to Diego Gomez Deck 
> http://diegogomezdeck.blogspot.com/
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Christoph Derndorfer
>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago and will
>> be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.
>>
>> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
>> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?
>>
>> I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
>> related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
>> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.
>>
>> Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Christoph
>>
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>
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Gustavo Ibarra]

you might want to write to Diego Gomez Deck http://diegogomezdeck.blogspot.com/

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Christoph Derndorfer
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> as some of you might know I moved to Madrid about a month ago and will
> be here at least until the end of May but possibly also until late summer.
>
> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?
>
> I've looked around quite a bit but unfortunately didn't find anything
> related to olpc/Sugar/ICT4E so far, plus similarly minded communities
> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.
>
> Anyway, I'd appreciate any pointers, suggestions or contacts in this area.
>
> Thanks,
> Christoph
>
> --
> Christoph Derndorfer
> co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
> ___
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>



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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Martin Langhoff]

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Christoph Derndorfer
 wrote:
> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?

In Spain the Moodle community is very strong -- peaks around
Catalunya. Vasque country is strong on alternative linux distros for
education (non-Sugar afaik). Again, Madrid is a bit weaker on this
track.

Maybe post in moodle.org's Spanish forum?



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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

[Juan Rafael Fernández García]

2011/3/18 Christoph Derndorfer :

> Now I was wondering whether anyone here knows people working on
> olpc/Sugar/ICT4E who are based here in Madrid or elsewhere in Spain?

Sorry, can't help here

> plus similarly minded communities
> (e.g. LUGs, hacker spaces, etc.) also seem to be quite rare around here.

Well, in a country in which several hundred thousands of computers in
schools use FOSS, maybe your observation is not very accurate. MAX is
the name of the GNU Linux distro used in Madrid, you may start trying
to contact them, there's a very active group (I live some 600km from
Madrid, in Andalusia).

Maybe these pointers could help you:
http://speeches.ofset.org/jrfernandez/rmll2006/present_distros_en.pdf (2006)
http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/averroes/html/adjuntos/2010/05/31/0002/index.html
(2010)

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