Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Fri, May 13, 2011 3:31 am, Teemu Leinonen wrote: > On 12.5.2011, at 18.09, Valerie Taylor wrote: >> A wiki-based solution could work. > > We are hosting an experimental wiki-like solution for primary and > secondary school teachers for finding, authoring and sharing OERs. The > are close to 20 000 educators from 65 countries working in 48 > languages (the UI is available in 14 languages). The site is here: > > http://lemill.net/ Added to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Open_Education_Resources#Sources > In LeMill teachers can create: > > I Content > (1) educational web pages with embedded media, > (2) exercise with > a) multiple choice questions, > b) fill-in-the-blanks exercise, > c) open-ended questions or upload questions from Hot Potatoes, > (3) Lesson plans > (4) Media pieces (upload images and sound clips) > (5) Reference (links to external websites > > II Methods > - Descriptions of teaching and learning methods (from brainstorming to > seminar) > > III Tools > - Descriptions of teaching and learning tools (from post-it notes to > mindmap software) > > Despite of the relatively large number of users and OERs only the > Georgian and the Estonian communities are truly active and lively. The > tag cloud of languages spoken by the community members is interesting: > > http://lemill.net/community/cloud?base=language&type=MemberFolder > > We also have some hypothesis why the Georgians and Estonians are so > active. > > It would be great to have more Sugar-related content on LeMill. I am the Replacing Textbooks Project Manager for Sugar Labs. We should discuss how we can work together. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks > Best regards, > > - Teemu > > --- > Teemu Leinonen > http://www.uiah.fi/~tleinone/ > +358 50 351 6796 > Media Lab > http://mlab.uiah.fi > Aalto University > School of Art and Design > --- > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Sat, May 14, 2011 12:08 pm, Valerie Taylor wrote: > I'm becoming more convinced that the "solution" is a robust index / > retrieval system. Provide the "big picture" - what OERs are currently > available, how they map to the Replacing Textbooks vision of > curriculum for all, what is missing, where there are works in progress > and the status. This needs to be really up-to-date and easy to update. > And of course, open software. I took a quick look in Synaptic to see what sorts of package Ubuntu offers for these purposes. Search "repository" Hyper Estraier is a full-text search system. Search "document" "database" couchdb RESTful document oriented database, system DB mongodb An object/document-oriented database Monotone A distributed version (revision) control system SiSU documents - structuring, publishing in multiple formats and search No doubt there are others. > Let the OERs live where ever works for the creators. Make open space > available by all means. Suggest outlines, vocabularies, categories. > Peer reviews and ratings, librarian / curator function for tags and > categories would be helpful, too. > > My first pass of the tasks for this would be: > > * communication / status - big picture - what is available, what > is needed, work in progress, requests for collaboration > * curriculum outlines - identify what is needed > * existing OERs - find, categorize, dynamic / real-time map to big > picture > * identify gaps - so work can be directed to create missing > * manage volunteers efforts - guidelines, questions > * project management > > >>> there are lots of >>> disconnected education resources but little overall structure. This is >>> not >>> a criticism of the community, without the community, the resources >>> would >>> not exist. > >> We will also need a repository that can handle a multidimensional >> collection of documents >> >> * on every school subject and teacher training subject, plus many more >> * at every level of child development >> * for every country >> * in every language needed > > That's why I am suggesting an index because the problem is too complex > for a single repository which doesn't scale. > >> >> There are several useful structuring principles. Mine is the growth of >> children's mental capacities. > > The solution must support several useful structuring principles. > > This is a tall order but I think it will have the best outcomes for > educators and learners. And with this group behind it, it can attract > the critical mass necessary to be seriously important and interesting. > :o) > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
I'm becoming more convinced that the "solution" is a robust index / retrieval system. Provide the "big picture" - what OERs are currently available, how they map to the Replacing Textbooks vision of curriculum for all, what is missing, where there are works in progress and the status. This needs to be really up-to-date and easy to update. And of course, open software. Let the OERs live where ever works for the creators. Make open space available by all means. Suggest outlines, vocabularies, categories. Peer reviews and ratings, librarian / curator function for tags and categories would be helpful, too. My first pass of the tasks for this would be: * communication / status - big picture - what is available, what is needed, work in progress, requests for collaboration * curriculum outlines - identify what is needed * existing OERs - find, categorize, dynamic / real-time map to big picture * identify gaps - so work can be directed to create missing * manage volunteers efforts - guidelines, questions * project management >> there are lots of >> disconnected education resources but little overall structure. This is not >> a criticism of the community, without the community, the resources would >> not exist. > We will also need a repository that can handle a multidimensional > collection of documents > > * on every school subject and teacher training subject, plus many more > * at every level of child development > * for every country > * in every language needed That's why I am suggesting an index because the problem is too complex for a single repository which doesn't scale. > > There are several useful structuring principles. Mine is the growth of > children's mental capacities. The solution must support several useful structuring principles. This is a tall order but I think it will have the best outcomes for educators and learners. And with this group behind it, it can attract the critical mass necessary to be seriously important and interesting. :o) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Fri, May 13, 2011 9:33 pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > Valerie > > Thanks for the helpful comments. > > A problem of educational resources developed by an open source community > is that people have 'scratched their own itch' and there are lots of > disconnected education resources but little overall structure. This is not > a criticism of the community, without the community, the resources would > not exist. The new Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks project means to address that problem, allowing a hundred flowers to bloom, or a hundred itches to be scratched, and also recruiting professional subject matter experts to create OERs that conform to various curriculum standards, with peer review. You can see our beginnings on the test server that dogi set up for us. http://booki.treehouse.su/ We will also need a repository that can handle a multidimensional collection of documents * on every school subject and teacher training subject, plus many more * at every level of child development * for every country * in every language needed with local materials in topics such as history, geography, civics, health, agriculture and more. Even in PE we have to allow for countries where the number one game is soccer, baseball, or cricket. I have proposed teaching statistics using sports records, so even math materials have to have local content. > I started blogging rather than adding to the wiki for what I suppose are > the usual reasons: not wanting to mess with another's document, being > unsure about my work's quality and relevance and wanting to own my own > work. Later I changed my mind but kept blogging to be consistent. We can and intend to provide space on the booki server for single-author materials and group efforts. I have many notions about how to use Turtle Blocks as the introductory math language, with the aim of making it as natural as learning talk. This was Seymour Papert's goal for Logo, as described in Mindstorms: Children, Computers, and Powerful Ideas. So I would like to work with you. > Anything which makes the invitation to edit a wiki more explicit is good. > Any tools that make it easier are good. But many will still want to manage > their own resources. I think the idea of Delicious style tagging is good, > but I am not sure how you would implement it. > > The following examples of sites have good resources in the 'turtle > graphics' space occupied by TurtleArt, Scratch and Etoys. A search > facility that could find all of them (and more) would help teachers. Its > unrealistic to expect that all the resources would be on the wiki, > regardless of how easy the editing was. Reference librarians have plenty of good ideas on managing bibliographies. What is harder is to make a collection that does not look academic, that invites children in. > http://sites.google.com/site/solymar1fisica/fisica-con-xo-investigacion- > http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/ > http://www.scribd.com/doc/20189623/The-XO-Laptop-in-the-Classroom > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Aplicacion_Problema_de_Pizzas > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/0e/Gravity.odt > neoparaiso.com > http://ictmindtools.net/scratch/ > http://www.waveplace.org/resources/tutorials/ > > > The issues (also addressed in Valerie's > http://wikieducator.org/User:Vtaylor/Learning_objects,_personal_learning_environments,_study_guides) > which make bringing all the resources in some way under one umbrella > difficult include: > > Difficulty and inconsistency in finding and navigating to resources > Different formats of the resources, wiki, blog, image, pdf, doc > Different depth in the resources, ranging from as little as a single image > to a book > Patchy coverage of the subjects > Different languages, primarily Spanish and English > Difficulty in assigning a resource to a subject or year level > What are the limits of what is relevant? > Authors may be unaware of complimentary resources and not incorporate or > cross reference > Authors' reluctance to add their own work to a wiki (or tagging) in case > its not good enough or relevant enough > Abandoned partly completed projects > > That's a list of problems, unfortunately I don't have solutions. Good start. Yes, none of us has the answer. We'll invite the children and the teachers to help us find some. > Thanks for the comments on > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt > > Yes its a big document. Walter has started the steps to breaking this up > into smaller documents, its already 9 sub documents stitched together > (click view source to see the structure) Will breaking it up make it > easier to comprehend and more inviting to edit? Any comments on the > structure welcome or just edit it yourself. > > Glad you like the 'Challenges' section. Would you rather see it closer to > the top? Does it need a run through of what TurtleArt can do first? In how > much detail? That's what I particularly want to work on. > "Provide a way to showcase and contribute learning objects
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Fri, May 13, 2011 7:07 am, Valerie Taylor wrote: > YOU are systematic. It is the rest of us who need help. It isn't just that. We are talking about producing several hundred subject-matter OERs for all subjects at all levels, plus local content in history, literature, health, agriculture and so on, in perhaps a hundred languages, in both student and teacher editions, where the teacher's edition will not be distinguished by having the right answers to the problems, but by having lesson plans for each topic in a variety of styles, as Muska Mosston put it, From Command to Discovery. And then permitting remixing and matching to state, province, national, or subject-matter-expert curricula. Among other things. > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: >> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Valerie Taylor >> wrote: > >>> I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar >>> Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, >>> and build on that in a systematic way. We will need a proper Free Software document repository built on a sufficiently powerful database engine to support all of the requirements mentioned above. >> We are not exactly systematic about it, but Tony links to his most >> relevant blog posts in the wiki. Please see >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Tutorials and >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors Very nice. I have some to add. >> As far as how to make these posts have more impact, we are open to >> suggestions. >> > Good example - the first encounter with the Turtle Art page is a > little overwhelming - Obviously tons of wonderful information with > pictures and code... There are many OLPC and Sugar Labs Wiki pages with lots of good information and almost no guidance on how to use it. I used to do the kind of documentation we need for a living, but there is only one of me. We need a team. > Some us need to know "what can it do?" and "why do I need to know all > this stuff?" (rather than "how does it work?"). The Challenges are > great! This is where it starts to make some sense for me. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Challenges Which one of these meets my needs with the least fuss? > Provide a way to showcase and contribute learning objects - basically > challenge descriptions with categories / tags - subject, degree of > difficulty, ... and optional information like learning objectives and > additional information for teachers or students - setup, curriculum > integration, links to more advanced related challenges. There should > be a mechanism for adding reviews to challenge entries, too. > > The Turtle Art page is sooo organized that it doesn't invite > contributions or collaboration. If there was a "button" that said "add > your own challenge" or "add a review of this challenge" it would > create a safe way to contribute. A form pops up with boxes to fill in, > including some options, save and it is added to the page in the proper > place without the risk of messing up what is already there. For the experienced Wikiist, the Edit button is sufficient invitation, but it takes people a while to believe it. > This would also help educators (and students) find challenges to try > themselves. Once they locate a couple of challenges that seem > appropriate and interesting, then they will be motivated to work > through all the terrific material provided. We need to make some pages with just challenges and hints. I have been working on the idea, off and on, at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/discovering-discovery/edit/ and more recently http://booki.treehouse.su/discovering-discovery/ > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
Valerie Thanks for the helpful comments. A problem of educational resources developed by an open source community is that people have 'scratched their own itch' and there are lots of disconnected education resources but little overall structure. This is not a criticism of the community, without the community, the resources would not exist. I started blogging rather than adding to the wiki for what I suppose are the usual reasons: not wanting to mess with another's document, being unsure about my work's quality and relevance and wanting to own my own work. Later I changed my mind but kept blogging to be consistent. Anything which makes the invitation to edit a wiki more explicit is good. Any tools that make it easier are good. But many will still want to manage their own resources. I think the idea of Delicious style tagging is good, but I am not sure how you would implement it. The following examples of sites have good resources in the 'turtle graphics' space occupied by TurtleArt, Scratch and Etoys. A search facility that could find all of them (and more) would help teachers. Its unrealistic to expect that all the resources would be on the wiki, regardless of how easy the editing was. http://sites.google.com/site/solymar1fisica/fisica-con-xo-investigacion- http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/ http://www.scribd.com/doc/20189623/The-XO-Laptop-in-the-Classroom http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Aplicacion_Problema_de_Pizzas http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/0e/Gravity.odt neoparaiso.com http://ictmindtools.net/scratch/ http://www.waveplace.org/resources/tutorials/ The issues (also addressed in Valerie's http://wikieducator.org/User:Vtaylor/Learning_objects,_personal_learning_environments,_study_guides) which make bringing all the resources in some way under one umbrella difficult include: Difficulty and inconsistency in finding and navigating to resources Different formats of the resources, wiki, blog, image, pdf, doc Different depth in the resources, ranging from as little as a single image to a book Patchy coverage of the subjects Different languages, primarily Spanish and English Difficulty in assigning a resource to a subject or year level What are the limits of what is relevant? Authors may be unaware of complimentary resources and not incorporate or cross reference Authors' reluctance to add their own work to a wiki (or tagging) in case its not good enough or relevant enough Abandoned partly completed projects That's a list of problems, unfortunately I don't have solutions. Thanks for the comments on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt Yes its a big document. Walter has started the steps to breaking this up into smaller documents, its already 9 sub documents stitched together (click view source to see the structure) Will breaking it up make it easier to comprehend and more inviting to edit? Any comments on the structure welcome or just edit it yourself. Glad you like the 'Challenges' section. Would you rather see it closer to the top? Does it need a run through of what TurtleArt can do first? In how much detail? "Provide a way to showcase and contribute learning objects - basically challenge descriptions with categories / tags - subject, degree of difficulty, ... and optional information like learning objectives and additional information for teachers or students - setup, curriculum integration, links to more advanced related challenges. There should be a mechanism for adding reviews to challenge entries, too." Can you flesh this idea out a bit? Or even better do it? I am a bit vague on degree of difficulty & curriculum integration for the existing samples, this needs feedback from teachers in the field. Getting feedback is important. Would you let the tags just grow organically or should we work out some hierarchy of tagging? Is it worth making a start with something like Delicious? I suspect that reprogramming the wiki is too much to ask for at this stage. You said you had made a TurtleArt sample. Please add it to the wiki. Feel free to restructure the existing pages so that its addition makes sense in the larger structure. Thanks again for the feedback Tony > YOU are systematic. It is the rest of us who need help. > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Valerie Taylor wrote: > > >> I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar > >> Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, > >> and build on that in a systematic way. > > > > We are not exactly systematic about it, but Tony links to his most > > relevant blog posts in the wiki. Please see > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Tutorials and > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors > > > > As far as how to make these posts have more impact, we are open to > > suggestions. > > > Good example - the first encounter wi
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
YOU are systematic. It is the rest of us who need help. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Valerie Taylor wrote: >> I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar >> Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, >> and build on that in a systematic way. > > We are not exactly systematic about it, but Tony links to his most > relevant blog posts in the wiki. Please see > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Tutorials and > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors > > As far as how to make these posts have more impact, we are open to > suggestions. > Good example - the first encounter with the Turtle Art page is a little overwhelming - Obviously tons of wonderful information with pictures and code... Some us need to know "what can it do?" and "why do I need to know all this stuff?" (rather than "how does it work?"). The Challenges are great! This is where it starts to make some sense for me. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Challenges Provide a way to showcase and contribute learning objects - basically challenge descriptions with categories / tags - subject, degree of difficulty, ... and optional information like learning objectives and additional information for teachers or students - setup, curriculum integration, links to more advanced related challenges. There should be a mechanism for adding reviews to challenge entries, too. The Turtle Art page is sooo organized that it doesn't invite contributions or collaboration. If there was a "button" that said "add your own challenge" or "add a review of this challenge" it would create a safe way to contribute. A form pops up with boxes to fill in, including some options, save and it is added to the page in the proper place without the risk of messing up what is already there. This would also help educators (and students) find challenges to try themselves. Once they locate a couple of challenges that seem appropriate and interesting, then they will be motivated to work through all the terrific material provided. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On 12.5.2011, at 18.09, Valerie Taylor wrote: A wiki-based solution could work. We are hosting an experimental wiki-like solution for primary and secondary school teachers for finding, authoring and sharing OERs. The are close to 20 000 educators from 65 countries working in 48 languages (the UI is available in 14 languages). The site is here: http://lemill.net/ In LeMill teachers can create: I Content (1) educational web pages with embedded media, (2) exercise with a) multiple choice questions, b) fill-in-the-blanks exercise, c) open-ended questions or upload questions from Hot Potatoes, (3) Lesson plans (4) Media pieces (upload images and sound clips) (5) Reference (links to external websites II Methods - Descriptions of teaching and learning methods (from brainstorming to seminar) III Tools - Descriptions of teaching and learning tools (from post-it notes to mindmap software) Despite of the relatively large number of users and OERs only the Georgian and the Estonian communities are truly active and lively. The tag cloud of languages spoken by the community members is interesting: http://lemill.net/community/cloud?base=language&type=MemberFolder We also have some hypothesis why the Georgians and Estonians are so active. It would be great to have more Sugar-related content on LeMill. Best regards, - Teemu --- Teemu Leinonen http://www.uiah.fi/~tleinone/ +358 50 351 6796 Media Lab http://mlab.uiah.fi Aalto University School of Art and Design --- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Valerie Taylor wrote: > Actually, it was Tony's blog that got me thinking about how to make > the wiki entries more additive with templates/forms (rather than > wiki-style edit everything). His blog entry would be great as a > "section" or page or link associated with Activity:Turtle Art. More > connectivity and networking to facilitate retrieval, adoption, > adaption, contribution and collaboration. > > Annotated bookmarks Diigo, Delicious address some of the problems > associated with making existing OERs retrievable but it is hard to > limit vocabulary or require all categories types be provided. > > I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar > Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, > and build on that in a systematic way. We are not exactly systematic about it, but Tony links to his most relevant blog posts in the wiki. Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Tutorials and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors As far as how to make these posts have more impact, we are open to suggestions. thanks. -walter > It wouldn't diminish the contribution that Tony is making via his own > blog, but it would focus activities of retrieval and casual > contribution into a really useful framework with examples, guided > contributions, peer review, adaptive uses, technical support... > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: >> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote: >>> How to generate the best collaborative environment to provide >>> educators with effective access and adaption of resources ... > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
Actually, it was Tony's blog that got me thinking about how to make the wiki entries more additive with templates/forms (rather than wiki-style edit everything). His blog entry would be great as a "section" or page or link associated with Activity:Turtle Art. More connectivity and networking to facilitate retrieval, adoption, adaption, contribution and collaboration. Annotated bookmarks Diigo, Delicious address some of the problems associated with making existing OERs retrievable but it is hard to limit vocabulary or require all categories types be provided. I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, and build on that in a systematic way. It wouldn't diminish the contribution that Tony is making via his own blog, but it would focus activities of retrieval and casual contribution into a really useful framework with examples, guided contributions, peer review, adaptive uses, technical support... On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote: >> How to generate the best collaborative environment to provide >> educators with effective access and adaption of resources ... ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Valerie Taylor wrote: > How to generate the best collaborative environment to provide > educators with effective access and adaption of resources across a > broad spectrum of curriculum areas and age-appropriate activities? Oh, > yes - it must allow for casual contributions without the need for > labor intensive moderation and editing and dispute resolution. > > "Everyone" talks about OERs - collaboration, adoption. adaption but > there isn't really as much activity as there "ought" to be given the > interest, time and money that have gone into discussion these > education revolutionizing ideas. > > This is something that has been needed for many years and still hasn't > materialized. Perhaps the Replacing Textbooks program can address some > of the functionality. A wiki-based solution could work. Although > people are willing to contribute and collaborate, there is a > reluctance to change the work of others without some explicit > "authority" to do so. This has been a frustration with WikiEducator - > even with notations that collaboration is invited, there are no > contributions. There is a frustration with Wikipedia contributions > that are promptly removed by the "editor". > > Perhaps there is some middle ground. The idea of comments on a blog > post works out pretty well. The commenter augments the information in > the post, without modifying the original text. In the Sugar Labs wiki, > there are entries for all the Activities which could serve as the > basis for the collaborative framework. How about a forms/template > based contribution function that will add sections to a wiki entry? > For example, I came up with a sixth grade math activity based on > Turtle Art and I would like to share it. It would be nice to add this > to an inventory of middle school math activities connected to Turtle > Art. Others could then find my activity and others based on a search > for "middle school," "math" and/or "Activity:Turtle Art." I would love to see what you have been doing. I assume you have seen Tony Forster's blog and the pages we have made in the wiki regarding different TA projects around STEM? regards. -walter > > Just thinking... Would something like this overcome potential > contributors' resistance and get the ball rolling? ;o) Other ideas? > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep