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Memang sudah bisa kita atur pak .. hanya saat ini baru sampai tahap untuk membuat lebih hangat :)) Kebetulan saya sedang ikut mencoba merekonstruksi model kenaikan temperatur ini. Data yang digunakan adalah data yang terekam di airtanah (mencoba alternatif data selain menggunakan proxy, terumbu, karbon dll). Hasilnya menunjukkan kenaikan suhu yang lebih tinggi di kota-kota besar dibandingkan data kenaikan temperatur alami. Jadi kenaikan temperatur ini lebih merupakan gabungan dari kondisi alami dan aktifitas manusia. Salam, Fajar (2448) 'Mungkin belum ada debat di Indonesia, karena semuanya masih mengumpulkan data --- Hari Selasa, 7/14/09, Rovicky Dwi Putrohari rovi...@gmail.com sudah menulis: Kalau meliat komentar2 AAPG thd issue ini eang sepertinya lebih banyak mempercayai pemanasan akibat natural proccess bukan man made (non anthromorphism). Ada satu episode menarik dalam acara TV (Nat Geography atau yg lain lupa aku) ... ceritanya begini, kalau memangperubahan iklim sekarang ini akibat manusia, bagaimana kalau dibalik. Artinya How to make a climate contdition in purpose ? Lah kalau emang manusia bisa mempengaruhi iklim, bagaimana kalau sekarang iklim ini kita atur saja ? RDP
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Kebetulan saya hadir. Mungkin nanti saya coba bikin ringkasannya Salam Oki --- On Mon, 13/7/09, S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id wrote: From: S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id Subject: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 3:09 PM Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera? Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh kawan di bawah sana)? Salam - Daru - PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE 7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009, Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park, Nelson Parade, East Perth.(next to the WACA) PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC has neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are recorded in the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not one has been driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as do sea levels, as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are not extraordinary. The only way you can have the view that humans change climate is if you ignore history. GARY WARDEN Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA with a degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years working in a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world. While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate change, Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He left BHP Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but also to dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change. In September 2007 he was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient Truth lectures to thousands of West Australians since then. In November 2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the Climate Change Coalition. THOMAS MURRELL Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster, international business speaker, author and professional MC who has been working behind a microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter and executive producer. Now as the CEO of his own consulting company, Thomas has been recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking Pro-fessional (CSP), the highest possible international qualification and accreditation for profes-sional speakers. _ From: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bosta Pratama Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:17 PM To: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [economicgeology] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama included below] Apakah mungkin MGEI/IAGI mengadakan acara serupa? salam, Bosta._,_.___ Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama 1 of 1 File(s) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/doc/pdf16x16.gif http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/20010319/439097696/name/AIG%20Climate%20Change% 20Debate%20Flyer%2Epdf AIG Climate Change Debate Flyer.pdf Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
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Sebuah novel fiksi dikarang oleh Michael Crichton (pengarang kisah terkenal Jurrasic Park) berjudul State of Fear (2004) - juga menceritakan intrik perdebatan masalah perubahan iklim, yang dibumbui oleh kisah terorisme. Karya ini menerima AAPG Jurnalism Award 2006 (award ini sendiri dikritik sebagai a total embarrassment that reflects the politics of the oil industry and a lack of professionalism - Schrag, Harvard University). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear Salam, WW -Original Message- From: oki musakti [mailto:geo_musa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:55 PM To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] Kebetulan saya hadir. Mungkin nanti saya coba bikin ringkasannya Salam Oki --- On Mon, 13/7/09, S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id wrote: From: S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id Subject: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 3:09 PM Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera? Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh kawan di bawah sana)? Salam - Daru - PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE 7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009, Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park, Nelson Parade, East Perth.(next to the WACA) PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC has neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are recorded in the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not one has been driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as do sea levels, as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are not extraordinary. The only way you can have the view that humans change climate is if you ignore history. GARY WARDEN Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA with a degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years working in a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world. While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate change, Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He left BHP Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but also to dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change. In September 2007 he was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient Truth lectures to thousands of West Australians since then. In November 2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the Climate Change Coalition. THOMAS MURRELL Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster, international business speaker, author and professional MC who has been working behind a microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter and executive producer. Now as the CEO of his own consulting company, Thomas has been recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking Pro-fessional (CSP), the highest possible international qualification and accreditation for profes-sional speakers. _ From: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bosta Pratama Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:17 PM To: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [economicgeology] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama included below] Apakah mungkin MGEI/IAGI mengadakan acara serupa? salam, Bosta._,_.___ Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama 1 of 1 File(s) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/doc/pdf16x16.gif http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/20010319/439097696/name/AIG%20Climate%20Change% 20Debate%20Flyer%2Epdf AIG Climate Change Debate Flyer.pdf Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail PP-IAGI 2008-2011: ketua umum: LAMBOK HUTASOIT, lam...@gc.itb.ac.id sekjen: MOHAMMAD SYAIFUL, mohammadsyai...@gmail.com * 2 sekretariat (Jkt Bdg), 5 departemen, banyak biro... ayo meriahkan PIT ke-38 IAGI!!! yg akan dilaksanakan di Hotel Gumaya, Semarang 13-14 Oktober 2009 - To unsubscribe, send email to: iagi-net-unsubscribe[at]iagi.or.id To subscribe, send email to: iagi-net-subscribe[at]iagi.or.id Visit IAGI Website: http://iagi.or.id Pembayaran iuran anggota ditujukan ke: Bank Mandiri Cab. Wisma Alia Jakarta No. Rek: 123 0085005314 Atas nama: Ikatan Ahli Geologi Indonesia (IAGI
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Kalau meliat komentar2 AAPG thd issue ini eang sepertinya lebih banyak mempercayai pemanasan akibat natural proccess bukan man made (non anthromorphism). Ada satu episode menarik dalam acara TV (Nat Geography atau yg lain lupa aku) ... ceritanya begini, kalau memangperubahan iklim sekarang ini akibat manusia, bagaimana kalau dibalik. Artinya How to make a climate contdition in purpose ? Lah kalau emang manusia bisa mempengaruhi iklim, bagaimana kalau sekarang iklim ini kita atur saja ? RDP On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Winderasta, Wikan (wikanw) wik...@chevron.com wrote: Sebuah novel fiksi dikarang oleh Michael Crichton (pengarang kisah terkenal Jurrasic Park) berjudul State of Fear (2004) - juga menceritakan intrik perdebatan masalah perubahan iklim, yang dibumbui oleh kisah terorisme. Karya ini menerima AAPG Jurnalism Award 2006 (award ini sendiri dikritik sebagai a total embarrassment that reflects the politics of the oil industry and a lack of professionalism - Schrag, Harvard University). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear Salam, WW -Original Message- From: oki musakti [mailto:geo_musa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:55 PM To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] Kebetulan saya hadir. Mungkin nanti saya coba bikin ringkasannya Salam Oki --- On Mon, 13/7/09, S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id wrote: From: S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id Subject: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 3:09 PM Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera? Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh kawan di bawah sana)? Salam - Daru - PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE 7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009, Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park, Nelson Parade, East Perth.(next to the WACA) PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC has neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are recorded in the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not one has been driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as do sea levels, as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are not extraordinary. The only way you can have the view that humans change climate is if you ignore history. GARY WARDEN Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA with a degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years working in a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world. While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate change, Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He left BHP Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but also to dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change. In September 2007 he was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient Truth lectures to thousands of West Australians since then. In November 2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the Climate Change Coalition. THOMAS MURRELL Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster, international business speaker, author and professional MC who has been working behind a microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter and executive producer. Now as the CEO of his own consulting company, Thomas has been recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking Pro-fessional (CSP), the highest possible international qualification and accreditation for profes-sional speakers. _ From: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bosta Pratama Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:17 PM To: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [economicgeology] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama included below] Apakah mungkin MGEI/IAGI mengadakan acara serupa? salam, Bosta._,_.___ Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama 1 of 1 File(s) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/doc/pdf16x16.gif http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/20010319/439097696/name/AIG%20Climate%20Change% 20Debate%20Flyer%2Epdfhttp://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/20010319/439097696/name/AIG%20Climate%20Change%20Debate%20Flyer.pdf AIG Climate Change Debate Flyer.pdf Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail PP-IAGI 2008-2011: ketua
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Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera? Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh kawan di bawah sana)? Salam - Daru - PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE 7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009, Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park, Nelson Parade, East Perth.(next to the WACA) PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC has neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are recorded in the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not one has been driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as do sea levels, as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are not extraordinary. The only way you can have the view that humans change climate is if you ignore history. GARY WARDEN Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA with a degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years working in a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world. While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate change, Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He left BHP Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but also to dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change. In September 2007 he was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient Truth lectures to thousands of West Australians since then. In November 2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the Climate Change Coalition. THOMAS MURRELL Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster, international business speaker, author and professional MC who has been working behind a microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter and executive producer. Now as the CEO of his own consulting company, Thomas has been recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking Pro-fessional (CSP), the highest possible international qualification and accreditation for profes-sional speakers. _ From: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bosta Pratama Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:17 PM To: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [economicgeology] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama included below] Apakah mungkin MGEI/IAGI mengadakan acara serupa? salam, Bosta._,_.___ Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama 1 of 1 File(s) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/doc/pdf16x16.gif http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/20010319/439097696/name/AIG%20Climate%20Change% 20Debate%20Flyer%2Epdf AIG Climate Change Debate Flyer.pdf