Re: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik Fajar Lubis
Memang sudah bisa kita atur pak .. hanya saat ini baru sampai tahap untuk 
membuat lebih hangat :))

Kebetulan saya sedang ikut mencoba merekonstruksi model kenaikan temperatur 
ini. Data yang digunakan adalah data yang terekam di airtanah (mencoba 
alternatif data selain menggunakan proxy, terumbu, karbon dll).

Hasilnya menunjukkan kenaikan suhu yang lebih tinggi di kota-kota besar 
dibandingkan data kenaikan temperatur alami. Jadi kenaikan temperatur ini lebih 
merupakan gabungan dari kondisi alami dan aktifitas manusia.


Salam,
Fajar (2448)
'Mungkin belum ada debat di Indonesia, karena semuanya masih mengumpulkan data

--- Hari Selasa, 7/14/09, Rovicky Dwi Putrohari rovi...@gmail.com sudah 
menulis:


Kalau meliat komentar2 AAPG thd issue ini eang sepertinya lebih banyak
mempercayai pemanasan akibat natural proccess bukan man made (non
anthromorphism).

Ada satu episode menarik dalam acara TV (Nat Geography atau yg lain lupa
aku) ... ceritanya begini, kalau memangperubahan  iklim sekarang ini akibat
manusia, bagaimana kalau dibalik. Artinya How to make a climate contdition
in purpose ? Lah kalau emang manusia bisa mempengaruhi iklim, bagaimana
kalau sekarang iklim ini kita atur saja ?

RDP





  

Re: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]

2009-07-13 Terurut Topik oki musakti
Kebetulan saya hadir.
Mungkin nanti saya coba bikin ringkasannya 
 
Salam
Oki

--- On Mon, 13/7/09, S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id wrote:


From: S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id
Subject: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]
To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 3:09 PM


Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah
berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera?
Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh
kawan di bawah sana)?



Salam - Daru

-

PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE

7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009,  Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park,  Nelson
Parade,  East Perth.(next to the WACA)

PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER 

Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent
critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC
has neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are
recorded in the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not
one has been driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as
do sea levels, as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are
not extraordinary. The only way you can have the view that humans change
climate is if you ignore history. 

GARY WARDEN 




Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA
with a degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years
working in a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world.
While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate
change, Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He
left BHP Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but
also to dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change.  In
September 2007 he was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient
Truth lectures to thousands of West Australians since then. In November
2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the
Climate Change Coalition. 






THOMAS MURRELL 

Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster,
international business speaker, author and professional MC who has been
working behind a microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter
and executive producer.  Now as the CEO of his own consulting company,
Thomas has been recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking
Pro-fessional (CSP), the highest possible international qualification and
accreditation for profes-sional speakers.



  _  

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2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Winderasta, Wikan (wikanw)
Sebuah novel fiksi dikarang oleh Michael Crichton (pengarang kisah terkenal 
Jurrasic Park) berjudul State of Fear (2004) - juga menceritakan intrik 
perdebatan masalah perubahan iklim, yang dibumbui oleh kisah terorisme. 
Karya ini menerima AAPG Jurnalism Award 2006 (award ini sendiri dikritik 
sebagai a total embarrassment that reflects the politics of the oil industry 
and a lack of professionalism - Schrag, Harvard University).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear

Salam,
WW 

-Original Message-
From: oki musakti [mailto:geo_musa...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:55 PM
To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]

Kebetulan saya hadir.
Mungkin nanti saya coba bikin ringkasannya 
 
Salam
Oki

--- On Mon, 13/7/09, S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id wrote:


From: S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id
Subject: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]
To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 3:09 PM


Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah 
berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera?
Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh 
kawan di bawah sana)?



Salam - Daru

-

PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE

7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009,  Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park,  Nelson 
Parade,  East Perth.(next to the WACA)

PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER 

Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent 
critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC has 
neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are recorded in 
the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not one has been 
driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as do sea levels, 
as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are not extraordinary. 
The only way you can have the view that humans change climate is if you ignore 
history. 

GARY WARDEN 




Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA with a 
degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years working in 
a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world.
While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate change, 
Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He left BHP 
Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but also to 
dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change.  In September 2007 he 
was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient Truth lectures to 
thousands of West Australians since then. In November
2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the Climate 
Change Coalition. 






THOMAS MURRELL 

Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster, international 
business speaker, author and professional MC who has been working behind a 
microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter and executive 
producer.  Now as the CEO of his own consulting company, Thomas has been 
recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking Pro-fessional (CSP), the 
highest possible international qualification and accreditation for 
profes-sional speakers.



  _  

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Subject: [economicgeology] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]



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2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Rovicky Dwi Putrohari
Kalau meliat komentar2 AAPG thd issue ini eang sepertinya lebih banyak
mempercayai pemanasan akibat natural proccess bukan man made (non
anthromorphism).

Ada satu episode menarik dalam acara TV (Nat Geography atau yg lain lupa
aku) ... ceritanya begini, kalau memangperubahan  iklim sekarang ini akibat
manusia, bagaimana kalau dibalik. Artinya How to make a climate contdition
in purpose ? Lah kalau emang manusia bisa mempengaruhi iklim, bagaimana
kalau sekarang iklim ini kita atur saja ?

RDP

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Winderasta, Wikan (wikanw) 
wik...@chevron.com wrote:

 Sebuah novel fiksi dikarang oleh Michael Crichton (pengarang kisah terkenal
 Jurrasic Park) berjudul State of Fear (2004) - juga menceritakan intrik
 perdebatan masalah perubahan iklim, yang dibumbui oleh kisah terorisme.
 Karya ini menerima AAPG Jurnalism Award 2006 (award ini sendiri dikritik
 sebagai a total embarrassment that reflects the politics of the oil
 industry and a lack of professionalism - Schrag, Harvard University).

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear

 Salam,
 WW

 -Original Message-
 From: oki musakti [mailto:geo_musa...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:55 PM
 To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
  Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]

 Kebetulan saya hadir.
 Mungkin nanti saya coba bikin ringkasannya 

 Salam
 Oki

 --- On Mon, 13/7/09, S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id wrote:


 From: S. (Daru) Prihatmoko sd...@indo.net.id
 Subject: [iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]
 To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
 Received: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 3:09 PM


 Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah
 berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera?
 Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh
 kawan di bawah sana)?



 Salam - Daru

 -

 PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE

 7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009,  Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park,  Nelson
 Parade,  East Perth.(next to the WACA)

 PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER

 Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent
 critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC
 has neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are
 recorded in the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not
 one has been driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as
 do sea levels, as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are
 not extraordinary. The only way you can have the view that humans change
 climate is if you ignore history.

 GARY WARDEN




 Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA
 with a degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years
 working in a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world.
 While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate
 change, Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He
 left BHP Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but
 also to dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change.  In
 September 2007 he was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient
 Truth lectures to thousands of West Australians since then. In November
 2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the
 Climate Change Coalition.






 THOMAS MURRELL

 Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster,
 international business speaker, author and professional MC who has been
 working behind a microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter
 and executive producer.  Now as the CEO of his own consulting company,
 Thomas has been recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking
 Pro-fessional (CSP), the highest possible international qualification and
 accreditation for profes-sional speakers.



   _

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 [mailto:economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bosta Pratama
 Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:17 PM
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 Subject: [economicgeology] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]



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 Apakah mungkin MGEI/IAGI mengadakan acara serupa?

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 20Debate%20Flyer%2Epdfhttp://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/20010319/439097696/name/AIG%20Climate%20Change%20Debate%20Flyer.pdf
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[iagi-net-l] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]

2009-07-12 Terurut Topik S. (Daru) Prihatmoko
Debat antara yg pro dan kontra thd konsep Perubahan Iklim ini telah
berlangsung di Perth - adakah yg sempat hadir dan berbagi ceritera?
Mungkinkah IAGI mengadakan diskusi (debat) semacam ini (spt ditanyakan oleh
kawan di bawah sana)?

 

Salam - Daru

-

PUBLIC DEBATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE

7.30pm Thursday 9th July 2009,  Golden Nugget Room,Gloucester Park,  Nelson
Parade,  East Perth.(next to the WACA)

PROFESSOR IAN PLIMER 

Professor Ian Plimer is a geologist, an excellent speaker and a prominent
critic of the theory of human-induced global warming. Ian believes the IPCC
has neglected historical evidence of past climate changes, which are
recorded in the rocks. When we look at the history of climate changes, not
one has been driven by carbon dioxide, he says. Climate always changes, as
do sea levels, as does life (on Earth) and we are living in times that are
not extraordinary. The only way you can have the view that humans change
climate is if you ignore history. 

GARY WARDEN 




Gary Warden was raised in the Perth Hills. After graduating from the UWA
with a degree in geology, Gary joined BHP Billiton where he spent 18 years
working in a variety of roles in a number of locations around the world.
While he was originally sceptical about the claims re-lating to climate
change, Gary became convinced of the urgency of the issue in early 2006. He
left BHP Billiton primarily to spend more time with his young family, but
also to dedicate himself to helping to ward off climate change.  In
September 2007 he was trained by Al Gore and has delivered the Inconvenient
Truth lectures to thousands of West Australians since then. In November
2007 Gary ran for the senate in the Federal Election representing the
Climate Change Coalition. 




 

THOMAS MURRELL 

Thomas Murrell will mediate. A multi-award winning broadcaster,
international business speaker, author and professional MC who has been
working behind a microphone for more than 25 years as a reporter, presenter
and executive producer.  Now as the CEO of his own consulting company,
Thomas has been recognised by his peers as a Certified Speaking
Pro-fessional (CSP), the highest possible international qualification and
accreditation for profes-sional speakers.

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:17 PM
To: economicgeol...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [economicgeology] Climate Change Debate [1 Attachment]

 

[Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama included below] 

Apakah mungkin MGEI/IAGI mengadakan acara serupa?

salam,
Bosta._,_.___

Attachment(s) from Bosta Pratama 

1 of 1 File(s) 

  http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/doc/pdf16x16.gif
http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/20010319/439097696/name/AIG%20Climate%20Change%
20Debate%20Flyer%2Epdf AIG Climate Change Debate Flyer.pdf