Re: MVS APPC RRSF
Robbie I am trying to setup MVS/APPC for RRSF. Have all the definitions, in place, but am obviously making some mistake. When I start the APPC address space I get the following message ATB052E LOGICAL UNIT GHT1RACF FOR TRANSACTION SCHEDULER *NONE* 069, NOT ACTIVATED IN THE APPC CONFIGURATION. REASON CODE = 24. I expect you should have said I *think* I have all the definitions in place g Incidentally I had no idea what RRSF might be but I Googled it and found RACF Remote Sharing Facility. From what I understand is that this is indicative of a security problem. I do not see any RACF messages issued on either of the systems. There are also no VTAM BIND failure messages. When I first read your post, I thought you were assuming that this was a security problem because of the presence of the characters RACF in the name of the logical unit. Now knowing what RRSF means, I see that could be a reason for having RACF in the name of the LU. In fact, the ACB error (ACBERFLG) code 24 is a security error specifically when opening the ACB, which is the control block used by a program in order for the program to make itself known to VTAM. If this fails there is no possibility for any attempts to start sessions so there will certainly be no BIND failure messages. So nothing much to go on. What there is to go on is what the ATB052E message and the code 24 is telling us. First the ATB052E message is an error trying to open the ACB. The name of the APPL statement which corresponds to the ACB is GHT1RACF. The name of the transaction scheduler is *NONE*. I expect this means that the corresponding LUADD statement specifies NOSCHED. Turning to the error code 36 (hexadecimal 24), we find that the cause can be one of three: 1. The password specified by the ACB did not match the corresponding password in the APPL entry. This means that the ACB identified a password which must be matched against the APPL statement PRTCT operand. The APPL statement PRTCT operand may or may not have specified a password but, either way, there was no match. As far as I can see, the LUADD statement does not allow for the specification of the ACB password. The LUADD statement is where I would expect such a password to be specified. 2. The ACB did not specify a password and the APPL contains one. This means that the ACB did not identify a password but the APPL statement PRTCT operand did. Thus a way this condition could apply is if you specified a value on the PRTCT operand. As I just mentioned, I cannot see how a password can be specified for the APPC/MVS ACB. 3. The security management product determined that the user is not authorized to open the ACB. Probably - and ironically, of course, given that the application concerns RACF - we have to conclude that the interaction of APPC/MVS and RACF is to blame. Note that it is *not* at the level of the session, conversation or transaction, but simply getting the d***ed ACB corresponding to the LUADD statement open at the time APPC/MVS is started.. Many years ago - 15 or so I guess - someone came into my office asking for help getting started with APPC/MVS. I had made sure I understood the topic and so had a nice neat set of definitions suitable for test/education systems. For the gentleman's benefit, I copied all the relevant definitions to CMS. When I left the education centre, I copied all these files to a diskette with the expectation I may need them again elsewhere. Indeed I did. Because of wanting to get to grips with APPC/MVS, I decided I had to get to know how RACF was working on my systems which hitherto had just corresponded to the environment created by the group from whom I pinched my basic system. This I did, shamefully remembering I was going through the RACF manual while listening to a New Year's concert.[1] I created a file with all necessary definitions and any changes were introduced by simply rebuilding the RACF data base. This is a suitable approach for a test/education system but not for production of course. I think I ran the same file for all 8 of my systems. Because that gentleman came into my office, I still have the file. Turing to the MVS Planning: APPC/MVS Management manual, I find section 10.4[2], LU Security: Protecting APPC/MVS Logical Units. Here we find the following: quote Controlling the use of VTAM ACBs You can ensure that an LU is defined to VTAM from the APPC address space only, using RACF VTAMAPPL profiles. Subtopics: ... 10.4.3 Controlling the Use of VTAM ACBs /quote It's encouraging that I find the following in my RACF file: RDEFINE VTAMAPPL A5xAPPC OWNER(SYSTEM) UACC(NONE) WARNING There are 8 statements for x = 1 to 8, one relating to each system. You should study section 10.4.3, Controlling the Use of VTAM ACBs in order to work out how to get round this third condition. I hope that's it! Chris Mason [1] European readers will instantly know to what I refer but those poor folk on the other side of the pond may need to
Re: Inquiry Web Services using simple cobol programs
Romain, all There is an assembler demo SOA application that is installed with z390 which illustrates how a main program calling to service routines can be run as statically linked program or can automatically regenerated as an SOA client server application just using TCP/IP sockets. The generated client and server programs can be run on any two processors that share access to a TCP/IP network and support J2RE Java runtime 1.5.0+. Download and install z390 with Installshield for Windows or file zip for Linux and look in the readme z390\soa directory. All the sources for the demo application and the macro based generator are in the z390\soa demo and maclib directories. There is a z390 SOA User Gudie on the www.z390.org website here: http://www.automatedsoftwaretools.com/z390/z390_Service_Oriented_Architectu re_Support.htm z390 is an open source Java J2RE based tool so you can view all the Java code that supports the TCPIO svc for TCP/IP client and server sockets in the z390\src\sz390.java support module. To use such a TCP/IP sockets solution, your COBOL client could call a z390 assembler client via JNI or other existing interface or it could use an existing sockets interface following similiar approach. Note the current v1.3.01 version of z390 from www.z390.org only supports single connection to z390 server application, but the next release with PTF 554 will support multiple client connections to z390 server. Following the recent SHARE session 2845 on z390 portable mainframe assembler and emulator, there was interest in running z390 on Linux/390 for similar purpose of connecting applications in COBOL and assembler across different OS's and platforms using open source standard interfaces. Don Higgins Automated Software Tools - home of www.z390.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:03:12 +0100 Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU From: CAPRON Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Inquiry Web Services using simple cobol programs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello to everyone, I'm just posting this message in order to know if someone knows a solution to query a Web Services hosted on a distant open server with a cobol program running a z/OS LPAR ? Does we need Websphere softwares or not... Thanks a lot in advance for your advices, Romain. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Do I need to setup APPC/MVS?
Chris, I have sent you a mail offline including a document about my whole configuration process. I didn't find any IBM manuals about APPC3270 over EEDLC using PCOMM. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pcomhelp/v5r9/index.jsp Here you can find the docs about IBM Personal Communications 5.9 but they only talk about APPC3270 over ANYNET briefly. Johnny -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Did schools ever teach systems programming other than NIU was Re: help -- ignorant new boss
I attended (now defunct) Computer Learning Center in Northern Virginia in 1978, right out of high school. Like Eric mentioned, no systems programming, but mainframe basics (bits, bytes) and Cobol, Assembler and RPG. All work was done on a 360/xx and punched cards. Had to wait overnight to get your results back (unlike today when you can debug your syntax with the compiler by running it however many times a day.) They taught Cobol first, which was easier to understand and code, but hard to debug. Then they taught us Assembler. That's when the light bulb came on. It was then that I understood how to debug my Cobol and a love for reading dumps. Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at www.infosecinc.com -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Did schools ever teach systems programming other than NIU was Re: help -- ignorant new boss I went to a technical college starting around 1971 at the Milwaukee Area Technical College. I took the Business Data Processing associate degree program. They didin't teach systems programming, but they had an excellent program teaching Cobol, Assembler, RPG, database, PL/1, Utilities and JCL, etc. Of course now, I don't think they teach anything mainframe, except maybe a Cobol course. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Lands' End 608-935-4680 Dodgeville, Wisconsin Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only computer course in college was on an IBM 650 with a 2000 word drum and vacuum tubes. Most of my learning was OJT plus being sent to some IBM courses. My personal opinion is that the universities have bamboozled the business community into believing that they really train people for running data centers. As Martha Stewart would say; Dinosaur-speed is a GOOD thing.ay there, sonny?! TTFN, Mark Young -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
replaceing 3745
Hi all, I know that my question is not completely related to this list,however I hope that some one can have advice or comment. We are using NCP/Token-Ring interconnection physical and logical lines,and using automatic LINE and PU generation with the AUTOGEN facility in LOGICAL GROUP,and by using VTAM switched major node we are connecting more than 2000 branches of a bank to M/F(using three 3745).Our manager wants to replace communication controller(3745) to OSA-express. Is it possible this replacement with minimum change in configuration and the protocol? I would appreciate any insight or help anyone may have. Thank you in advance Ali -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: help -- ignorant new boss
--snip 2) You can blind him with your spare bottle of Grecian Formula 16, beat him with your cane, cut his jugular with your plastic pocket protector, pull his guts out with a decolator, and hide his body under a large pile of 80-column cards... Let me know when you're sentenced. I'll send you a cake with an IBM s/360 hex card (http://weblog.ceicher.com/archives/IBM360greencard.pdf) baked inside. M, hex cake... ---unsnip--- Paul Simon said it best, in Keep the Customer Satisfied: You're in trouble boy, now you headed in for more. I can contribute a card saw, but this old 029 Keypunch will cost you dearly. By all means, be ready to Fold, spindle and mutilate. Seriously, it depends on how receptive the new boss is, and how much he trusts your judgement. I had the same situation a few years ago, but the new boss was perceptive enough to realize that the mainframe was a whole new world. Well reasoned discussions and judgement calls were well received, but you had to have all your ducks in a row, both pro and con. And snap decisions in times of crisis had to be explained afterwards. Start building a good work relationship NOW and don't let the new boss know that he/she might be a bumbling idiot at times; never say It'll never work; rather, say This might work better. and explain why. You know how it is; we have to be diplomats at times. If you can find a Concepts and Facilities manual lying around, it might be helpful, even though it's probably older than dirt itself. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Spanish Computer
snip--- Uh, wouldn't that have been considered Multiple Personality Disorder? ---unsnip- If a person with Multiple Personality Disorder threatens suicide, is it considered a Hostage Situation?? (G, D R) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: replaceing 3745
snip-- I know that my question is not completely related to this list,however I hope that some one can have advice or comment. We are using NCP/Token-Ring interconnection physical and logical lines,and using automatic LINE and PU generation with the AUTOGEN facility in LOGICAL GROUP,and by using VTAM switched major node we are connecting more than 2000 branches of a bank to M/F(using three 3745).Our manager wants to replace communication controller(3745) to OSA-express. Is it possible this replacement with minimum change in configuration and the protocol? I would appreciate any insight or help anyone may have. unsnip Short answer: NO. Longer answer: maybe; it depends on time frames and costs. To effectively use the OSA Express adapter, plan on converting to TCP/IP. That's going to add up to some serious cost numbers because of the protocol changes, and hardware and software costs. You need to assemble a plan for making these changes in a non-disruptive fashion, contact vendors of software and hardware for cost numbers, look deeply into programming changes, etc. You'll also need to look hard at the various network management and performance issues, as well as security-related issues. In short, this is NOT a project to be undertaken lightly! Considerable research and planning are mandatory to avoid costly mistakes and possible security breaches; you might want to start trolling for qualified and trustworthy consultants for help on this one. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: replacing 3745
Try Visara. http://www.visara.com/index.htm They have a 37X5 replacement, I am not familiar with all the details. But it may be an option. Forget OSA Express unless you are looking for a long range project. Doug At 10:32 AM 2/24/2007, you wrote: Hi all, I know that my question is not completely related to this list,however I hope that some one can have advice or comment. We are using NCP/Token-Ring interconnection physical and logical lines,and using automatic LINE and PU generation with the AUTOGEN facility in LOGICAL GROUP,and by using VTAM switched major node we are connecting more than 2000 branches of a bank to M/F(using three 3745).Our manager wants to replace communication controller(3745) to OSA-express. Is it possible this replacement with minimum change in configuration and the protocol? I would appreciate any insight or help anyone may have. Thank you in advance Ali -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Doug Fuerst Consultant BK Associates Brooklyn, NY (718) 921-2620 (Office) (718) 921-0952 (Fax) (917) 572-7364 (Cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NF APAR OA15539 for Health Checker
Why not just change the bleepin' default? Perhaps you would rather we were an operating system that makes you recompile every line of source with every new release? We do not change defaults lightly. And try never to do so in the service stream. Not everyone runs Health Checker They should. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS APPC RRSF
Went back to the vtam definitions and discovered the PRTCT parameter was specified. Modified it to match the session key, still get rc24. Delete the parameter and now at least I get IST messages that I can deal with. Thanks for all the help Robbie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Do I need to setup APPC/MVS?
Johnny I have reviewed your files and tried to find something useful in the PCOMM manual - also the so-called Quick Beginnings. I see no reference to APPC3270 in the .acg file. Maybe APPC3270 is tied to using AnyNet SNA over IP in some way. If the only way to be able to enter the Attachment type APPC3270 is with an AnyNet SNA over IP logical link, you might try to define one and never activate it. Regarding a detail in the .acg file, in general, you do not actually need to define any local LUs since you necessarily define a CP and a CP can always be used as a local LU. Otherwise, the .acg file looks unexceptionable. In a way, APPC3270 is unnecessary since DLUR/DLUS supports the same function and is more strategic. Thus it wouldn't surprise me that APPC3270 works only in obsolete configurations. Chris - Original Message - From: Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Do I need to setup APPC/MVS? Chris, I have sent you a mail offline including a document about my whole configuration process. I didn't find any IBM manuals about APPC3270 over EEDLC using PCOMM. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pcomhelp/v5r9/index.jsp Here you can find the docs about IBM Personal Communications 5.9 but they only talk about APPC3270 over ANYNET briefly. Johnny -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: License keys for ISV products(Cole Software's view)
Jon Brock wrote: ... A unified license key scheme could avoid some of the pain associated with the subject. It was called ILM (IBM License Manager). The project crashed and burned. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMers Missing In Action (was RE: NF APAR OA15539 for Health Checker)
Haven't heard from Mark Thomen in a while on this list. Likewise Greg Dyck. Perhaps they retired?? They're both alive and well - and presumably too busy to bother with ibm-main. I spent some time with Mark at SHARE in Tampa. Greg wasn't there. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NF APAR OA15539 for Health Checker
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:42:48 -0500, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just change the bleepin' default? Perhaps you would rather we were an operating system that makes you recompile every line of source with every new release? That's a little strong... We do not change defaults lightly. And try never to do so in the service stream. Fine, I can understand that. Then this one could have been changed on a release boundary. But again - if it is recommended to run with it on, then a poor default was probably chosen to begin with. And I do understand that defaults don't get changed lightly... especially if they may break something. I don't see that being an issue in this particular case. But defaults do get changed. Look at BLOCKTOKENSIZE for z/OS 1.7 vs. 1.8. After some user experiences I guess IBM realized the 1.7 default should be changed. But the comparison is a little different here because you could change the default in a parmlib member as opposed to having to issue an operator command post IPL. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: replaceing 3745
Jalili, 'Minimum change in configuration' will be difficult. How about Enterprise Extender? ( SNA through TCP/IP ) You would have to change your hosts from subarea to APPN. How are the branch-offices currently connected? Using DLSW? More information is needed about the current network configuration. Be aware it will not be an easy process and lots of testing is needed. You might also try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Maarten Slegtenhorst -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Hi all, I know that my question is not completely related to this list,however I hope that some one can have advice or comment. We are using NCP/Token-Ring interconnection physical and logical lines,and using automatic LINE and PU generation with the AUTOGEN facility in LOGICAL GROUP,and by using VTAM switched major node we are connecting more than 2000 branches of a bank to M/F(using three 3745).Our manager wants to replace communication controller(3745) to OSA-express. Is it possible this replacement with minimum change in configuration and the protocol? I would appreciate any insight or help anyone may have. Thank you in advance Ali - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Did schools ever teach systems programming other than NIU was Re: help -- ignorant new boss
For what it's worth, Houston Community College System, here in Harris County, TX, offers an IBM Enterprise Server Certificate path: http://csci.hccs.edu/public/students/programs/IBM_EnterpriseServer_Certificate06.htm DJ On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:44:45 -0500, Robert Fake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attended (now defunct) Computer Learning Center in Northern Virginia in 1978, right out of high school. Like Eric mentioned, no systems programming, but mainframe basics (bits, bytes) and Cobol, Assembler and RPG. All work was done on a 360/xx and punched cards. Had to wait overnight to get your results back (unlike today when you can debug your syntax with the compiler by running it however many times a day.) They taught Cobol first, which was easier to understand and code, but hard to debug. Then they taught us Assembler. That's when the light bulb came on. It was then that I understood how to debug my Cobol and a love for reading dumps. Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at www.infosecinc.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)
Since probably the most important function of a System Programmer is to provide a stable Operating System platform for production applications (typically requiring a number of ISV products), and to do this while juggling software release changes, software maintenance, and changes in hardware, it is not surprising that system programmers (and enlightened managers) would be irked at anything that makes that task more difficult, and especially at any product whose license key management introduces additional points of failure into the process. If a hard failure occurs in a critical ISV product because of a bad license key, this potentially affects many application, large numbers of end users, and costs the company real money. It makes no difference whether the outage is caused by an ISV failure to supply correct keys or by some error on our part in the installation process, the effect on the end user is equally bad. Particularly in the case of processor upgrades, or in DR, there is no reliable way for us to verify that new keys from the vendors are correct and correctly installed until we are running on the new processor. If they aren't and a hard failure results, there is a high likelihood that this failure will be seen in some way by the end users, even if the vendor key support is 24x7. While I can understand the vendors concerns, my goal is to focus on our own system reliability and the needs of our end users; and any hard failures in ISV products are an enemy of that goal. Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: ... I think its interesting that so many sysprogs on the list hate keys so much. I think a lot of it is just poor business practices when you can't get a key in time. Yes, there are a few vendors who are only available 9-5 M-F, which could be a problem in a real disaster, but most of the major ones can respond 24 by 7. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Lands End Dodgeville, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 ... -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, AR[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Did schools ever teach systems programming other than NIU was Re: help -- ignorant new boss
In the early 1980s, I got a BS in Comp Sci. at the University of MO - Columbia. The Scientific Programming track included IBM Assembler and PL/I as the main languages, and there were two Systems Programming classes - a 300 and a 400 (graduate) level class. I took 'em both - both required the Assembler class as a prereq. CS351 was basically an intro to MVS and its architecture (was vaguely similar to the old MVS Structure and Logic class), and the CS451 taught some really cool internal stuff. We used VM as our development platform. In 451, we wrote assembler programs to do stuff like access PDS directories and wrote a channel program. Ah, those were the days... Bill Seubert System z I/T Architect IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:25:24 -0600 Joel C. Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Particularly in the case of processor upgrades, or in DR, there is no :reliable way for us to verify that new keys from the vendors are correct :and correctly installed until we are running on the new processor. If :they aren't and a hard failure results, there is a high likelihood that :this failure will be seen in some way by the end users, even if the :vendor key support is 24x7. In the case of a processor upgrade: if you get a hard error during production due to a bad ISV key, your testing criteria are way too lax. In the case of DR: if you do test runs, you will be quite aware of this issue. If you never do test runs, refer to the processor upgrade above. If you do not test, this is not likely to be your only problem. Or a major one. :While I can understand the vendors concerns, my goal is to focus on our :own system reliability and the needs of our end users; and any hard :failures in ISV products are an enemy of that goal. First, work on what you can change - get your accounting people up to speed. Keep track of the ISV products and expirations, and follow up on them. Improve those test procedures. Am I a little harsh? Perhaps. Yes, you would like to not have to worry about the ISV key, and the ISV would love not having to worry about collecting. But you should be aware that there is a bit of a partnership here. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
