Re: 3590 Tape error when vol=ser not specified

2011-02-25 Thread Greg Caserta
THANK YOU SO MUCH 

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W dniu 2011-02-24 22:19, Greg Caserta pisze:
> No autoloader.  Here is the results from the  d u,,,100  ( the drives are 
> offline right now)
> D U,,,0100
> IEE457I 16.17.24 UNIT STATUS 161
> UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE
> 0100 359S F-NRD/REMOV
> 0101 359S F-NRD/REMOV
> 0102 359S F-NRD/REMOV
> 0103 359S F-NRD/REMOV

See IEE457I explanation:
xxxS  where xxx represents the first three digits of device type 
(for example, '348' for a 3480 or '349' for a 3490) and 'S' means the 
device has a cartridge stack loader.


So, your OS/390 *thinks* that your 3590 does have autoloader.
Lack of autoloader casues surprise and message. However AFAIR it doesn't 
hurt. You can simply ignore the messages. AFAIR they appear only for 
non-specific volume requests.

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WLM classification of UNIX work - "problem"

2011-02-25 Thread McKown, John
I have a problem on z/OS 1.10. I run two types of UNIX work. The first is batch 
job work which fork()'s. The second is interactive work such as TSO OMVS or 
Telnet. Unfortunately, WLM has no way that I can find to assign said work to 
different service classes. I wish that the fork()'ed address space would 
inherit the WLM service class of the (careful!) fork()'er. Am I missing 
something in WLM? One example: a test UNIX job's child processes will run in 
the same service class as a production job's, unless I classify via jobname. 
But my TELNET jobname is the same as the FTP jobname (ftp coming in from 
desktop). And they are the same as what I start my batch job names with (I use 
the old time userid+character for ease of use of SDSF).

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Re: WLM classification of UNIX work - "problem"

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:52:31 -0600, McKown, John
 wrote:

>I have a problem on z/OS 1.10. I run two types of UNIX work. The first is
batch job work which fork()'s. The second is interactive work such as TSO
OMVS or Telnet. Unfortunately, WLM has no way that I can find to assign said
work to different service classes. I wish that the fork()'ed address space
would inherit the WLM service class of the (careful!) fork()'er. Am I
missing something in WLM? One example: a test UNIX job's child processes
will run in the same service class as a production job's, unless I classify
via jobname. But my TELNET jobname is the same as the FTP jobname (ftp
coming in from desktop). And they are the same as what I start my batch job
names with (I use the old time userid+character for ease of use of SDSF).
>

So are you saying your default (which production falls into) is what your
forked process is falling into?

What about classifying by accounting information?  Have you looked at
help in the dialogs.  Strangely enough, the help is "Work Qualifiers for
USS Subsystem Type" instead of OMVS subsystem type (and PLEASE
lets not start that thread again!):



*** 
*   USS   * 
*** 

Listed below are the various work qualifiers which are valid for an 
z/OS UNIX System Services subsystem type.   

ACCOUNTING INFORMATION  
Account numbers for z/OS UNIX System Services forked or spawned 
address spaces are set as follows:  

o   Forked or spawned address spaces inherit accounting data
from parent address space.  

o   When daemon processes such as rlogind or cron create new

o   When daemon processes such as rlogind or cron create new
work using setuid() and exec(), accounting data comes from  
the user's RACF profile (the WAACCNT value in the WORKATTR  
segment).  If this value is not defined in RACF, the address
space will not have accounting data.

o   Accounting data can also be verified or changed using the   
IEFUSI installation exit.   

===

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Re: WLM classification of UNIX work - "problem"

2011-02-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-

> 
> So are you saying your default (which production falls into) 
> is what your
> forked process is falling into?
> 
> What about classifying by accounting information?  Have you looked at
> help in the dialogs.  Strangely enough, the help is "Work 
> Qualifiers for
> USS Subsystem Type" instead of OMVS subsystem type (and PLEASE
> lets not start that thread again!):
> 
> 
> 
> *** 
> *   USS   * 
> *** 
> 
> Listed below are the various work qualifiers which are valid for an 
> z/OS UNIX System Services subsystem type.   
> 
> ACCOUNTING INFORMATION  
> Account numbers for z/OS UNIX System Services forked or spawned 
> address spaces are set as follows:  
> 
> o   Forked or spawned address spaces inherit accounting data
> from parent address space.  
> 
> o   When daemon processes such as rlogind or cron create new
> 
> o   When daemon processes such as rlogind or cron create new
> work using setuid() and exec(), accounting data comes from  
> the user's RACF profile (the WAACCNT value in the WORKATTR  
> segment).  If this value is not defined in RACF, the address
> space will not have accounting data.
> 
> o   Accounting data can also be verified or changed using the   
> IEFUSI installation exit.   
> 
> ===
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark   
> --

We don't use accounting information in our batch jobs. Well, there is something 
in there. But it is not meaningful or controlled. Basically, for batch, we use 
the job class to assign the service group. All TSO users get the same service 
group. STCs are classified, as needed, by STC job name. We have little UNIX 
work, so I generally lump 99% of it in one service class. The rest is grouped 
by RACF id for specific RACF ids. 

I'll look at that WAACCNT to see if I can use it, thanks!

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Re: WLM classification of UNIX work - "problem"

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:23:25 -0600, McKown, John
 wrote:

>> -Original Message-
>
>>
>> So are you saying your default (which production falls into)
>> is what your
>> forked process is falling into?
>>
>> What about classifying by accounting information?  Have you looked at
>> help in the dialogs.  Strangely enough, the help is "Work
>> Qualifiers for
>> USS Subsystem Type" instead of OMVS subsystem type (and PLEASE
>> lets not start that thread again!):
>>
>> 
>>
>> ***
>> *   USS   *
>> ***
>>
>> Listed below are the various work qualifiers which are valid for an
>> z/OS UNIX System Services subsystem type.
>>
>> ACCOUNTING INFORMATION
>> Account numbers for z/OS UNIX System Services forked or spawned
>> address spaces are set as follows:
>>
>> o   Forked or spawned address spaces inherit accounting data
>> from parent address space.
>>
>> o   When daemon processes such as rlogind or cron create new
>>
>> o   When daemon processes such as rlogind or cron create new
>> work using setuid() and exec(), accounting data comes from
>> the user's RACF profile (the WAACCNT value in the WORKATTR
>> segment).  If this value is not defined in RACF, the address
>> space will not have accounting data.
>>
>> o   Accounting data can also be verified or changed using the
>> IEFUSI installation exit.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark
>> --
>
>We don't use accounting information in our batch jobs. Well, there is
something in there. But it is not meaningful or controlled. Basically, for
batch, we use the job class to assign the service group. All TSO users get
the same service group. STCs are classified, as needed, by STC job name. We
have little UNIX work, so I generally lump 99% of it in one service class.
The rest is grouped by RACF id for specific RACF ids.
>
>I'll look at that WAACCNT to see if I can use it, thanks!
>

It doesn't matter how much you use or don't use accounting information now.
You can still accomplish what you want for these specific jobs / processes,
using IEFUSI if need be.

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Re: Am I running in an IMS MPR?

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Johanson
Art wrote:
> We look for... DFSVC000 (SVC)

   Close. DFSVC000 is the SCD control block which at +C has an SVC 
instruction with the IMS type-2 SVC as the SVC number.

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Removing BINS from RMM

2011-02-25 Thread David G. Schlecht
This seems like a pretty common exercise but I can’t find any meaningful 
information on it. We have an offsite location that was bin managed so we have 
numerous bins defined for the location. But now the location is no longer bin 
managed and I’m trying to remove the bins from RMM, all of which are empty.

I changed the MANAGEMENTTYPE to NOBINS but RMM is still trying to assign bins 
to tapes going to that location. I removed the bins from RMM and now RMM 
housekeeping terminates because there are no bins in the location. I tried 
re-adding some bins and RMM refuses, saying it’s not a self managed location: 
Location OP is not shelf-managed. Specify the name of a shelf-managed storage 
location.

Seems I’ve gone full circle.

Does anyone know how to tell RMM to quit assigning bins for this location?

EDG2403E MOVE OF VOLUME VT0025 DEFERRED - NO AVAILABLE EMPTY BIN NUMBERS FOR 
MEDIANAME CART IN LOCATION OP

EDGRMM00:
LOCDEF LOCATION(OP)
   MEDIANAME(CART)
   MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS)
   TYPE(STORAGE)

RMM: 5.7.8
Location Locdef Management Location Priority Media Names,
Type   Type,
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OP  ,YES   ,NOBINS,STORE   ,2000,CART




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Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Daniel Allen
We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, we 
would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging.

Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ?

Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ?


Tivoli Advanced Catalog Tool

2011-02-25 Thread Martin, Mike
All,

 

Has anyone used the IBM Tivoli Advanced Catalog Management for z/OS to
move catalog entries for open files to a new catalog?  Especially for
files that are open for a long time after they are moved... like CICS
VSAM files?

 

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Re: System symbols in dynamic allocation

2011-02-25 Thread Paul Peplinski
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:42:08 -0600, Arthur Gutowski 
 wrote:
>Since JOB C/I and execution are not guaranteed to happen on the same
>system in a MAS, if the value for a given symbol is different on each, when do
>you want to resolve the symbol?  Some will say "at C/I", others will say "at
>execution".  Since the entire z/OS user community will not likely ever agree,
>IBM cannot unilaterally implement a resolution.  Either way will cause a large
>share of customers significant grief.
>
>For STCs, C/I and execution happen on the same system (in JES2 at least), 
so
>you can safely use system symbols in STC JCL, as many of us do, extensively.

I have always found that argument lacking for many of the symbols - 
sysname, date, time. Give me multiple symbols CSYSNAM, ESYSNAM, CDATE, 
EDATE and I will use the one that makes sense in my application and 
environment.

Paul

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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Skip Robinson
Unless you are a running an ancient MVS release, 'XCF-Local' no longer 
exists. Single systems must now run as Monoplex. That being said, there is 
no problem running a system in Monoplex mode, which allows system logger 
to write to DASD-only data sets. 

Although it may not suit your needs, you can also run multiple systems in 
Basic Sysplex mode, which allows limited sharing of resources like console 
without any CF access. 


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We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, 
we would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging.

Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ?

Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ?


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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread R.S.

Daniel Allen pisze:

We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, we 
would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging.

Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ?

Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ?


No, and no.

You have to create two CDS types: sysplex (aka XCF) and LOGR.
Oh, BTW, there are 7 CDS types.


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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Daniel Allen
The term is in the z/OS 1.12 manual called 'Setting up a SYSPLEX'. IBM has not 
updated their information.

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Unless you are a running an ancient MVS release, 'XCF-Local' no longer exists. 
Single systems must now run as Monoplex. That being said, there is no problem 
running a system in Monoplex mode, which allows system logger to write to 
DASD-only data sets. 

Although it may not suit your needs, you can also run multiple systems in Basic 
Sysplex mode, which allows limited sharing of resources like console without 
any CF access. 


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Subject:Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment
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We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, 
we would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging.

Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ?

Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ?


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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Zelden
Daniel Allen  wrote:

>We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However,
we >would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging. 
> 
>Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ? 
> 
>Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ? 

Don't you have a monoplex now and WLM couple data sets?  Or are
you running with the "default" WLM policy?   The only XCFLOCAL
system I've worked on in years is my onepack system.

But to answer your question:  You don't need a CF.  You can run a
monoplex with sysplex (XCF) couple data sets, define your 
LOGR couple data sets, and use DASD only logstreams.

I support many monoplex LPARs that run in that mode (but they
also have WLM couple data sets).

If you look at the doc section of my web site for "Doc for setting up 
WLM in a MONOPLEX", the first few steps are the same but then you
need the logger couple data sets.   See MVS Setting Up a Sysplex
for details.

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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Rabbe, Luke
I know these CDS types:

ARM
BPXMCDS
CFRM
LOGR
SFM
WLM

What's the 7th type?

Luke

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Daniel Allen pisze:
> We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, we 
> would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging.
> 
> Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ?
> 
> Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ?

No, and no.

You have to create two CDS types: sysplex (aka XCF) and LOGR.
Oh, BTW, there are 7 CDS types.


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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Ayon, John
Sysplex

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I know these CDS types:

ARM
BPXMCDS
CFRM
LOGR
SFM
WLM

What's the 7th type?

Luke

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Daniel Allen pisze:
> We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, we 
> would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging.
>
> Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ?
>
> Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ?

No, and no.

You have to create two CDS types: sysplex (aka XCF) and LOGR.
Oh, BTW, there are 7 CDS types.


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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Staller, Allan
OMVS


I know these CDS types:

ARM
BPXMCDS
CFRM
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WLM

What's the 7th type?


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Re: 3590 Tape error when vol=ser not specified

2011-02-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:33 +0100 on 02/24/2011, R.S. wrote about Re: 3590 Tape error 
when vol=ser not specified:



So, your OS/390 *thinks* that your 3590 does have autoloader.
Lack of autoloader casues surprise and message. However AFAIR it doesn't
hurt. You can simply ignore the messages.


Or has your Systems Programmer do a new Sysgen to remove the 
Autoloader from the Device Definitions.


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Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

2011-02-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:34 -0600 on 02/24/2011, McBride, Catherine wrote about Re: 
Question about wiping a DS8100:



Yes, using the web-based Storage Manager application to change the ranks
from one format to another will certainly work.
I was told that changing from one format to the other 3 times would be
best.


That need to switch 3 times is based on your level of desire to 
prevent recovery of your data. The first switch will remove all the 
directory data and overwrite all the tracks. That makes all the data 
vanish. However there are forensic  methods that may be able to read 
the erased data although it has been overwritten. Thus the additional 
reformats (which makes the data harder to find on the drive using the 
forensic methods). This is the same situation as with PC Hard Drives 
and Secure Erase. You use a higher Secure Erase setting to rewrite 
the tracks more times. Unless you expect that someone is going to go 
to the trouble to do that level of data recovery, just removing the 
directories and overwriting the tracks (so the data is no longer 
there for normal reading or viewing the tracks) should be enough.


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FIXED ! 3590 Tape error when vol=ser not specified

2011-02-25 Thread Greg Caserta
THANKS ALL !

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At 22:33 +0100 on 02/24/2011, R.S. wrote about Re: 3590 Tape error 
when vol=ser not specified:

>So, your OS/390 *thinks* that your 3590 does have autoloader.
>Lack of autoloader casues surprise and message. However AFAIR it doesn't
>hurt. You can simply ignore the messages.

Or has your Systems Programmer do a new Sysgen to remove the 
Autoloader from the Device Definitions.

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Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Pace
Plus, unlike a PC drive, on the DS8100 the data is stripped over multiple
drives.  Making data recovery on individual drives an exercise in futility.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:

> At 14:34 -0600 on 02/24/2011, McBride, Catherine wrote about Re: Question
> about wiping a DS8100:
>
>
>  Yes, using the web-based Storage Manager application to change the ranks
>> from one format to another will certainly work.
>> I was told that changing from one format to the other 3 times would be
>> best.
>>
>
> That need to switch 3 times is based on your level of desire to prevent
> recovery of your data. The first switch will remove all the directory data
> and overwrite all the tracks. That makes all the data vanish. However there
> are forensic  methods that may be able to read the erased data although it
> has been overwritten. Thus the additional reformats (which makes the data
> harder to find on the drive using the forensic methods). This is the same
> situation as with PC Hard Drives and Secure Erase. You use a higher Secure
> Erase setting to rewrite the tracks more times. Unless you expect that
> someone is going to go to the trouble to do that level of data recovery,
> just removing the directories and overwriting the tracks (so the data is no
> longer there for normal reading or viewing the tracks) should be enough.
>
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Re: 3590 Tape error when vol=ser not specified

2011-02-25 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-02-25 20:35, Robert A. Rosenberg pisze:

At 22:33 +0100 on 02/24/2011, R.S. wrote about Re: 3590 Tape error when
vol=ser not specified:


So, your OS/390 *thinks* that your 3590 does have autoloader.
Lack of autoloader casues surprise and message. However AFAIR it doesn't
hurt. You can simply ignore the messages.


Or has your Systems Programmer do a new Sysgen to remove the Autoloader
from the Device Definitions.


System programmer? I doubt. IMHO there is no option *in the system* 
(HCD, IODF, DFSMS) which corresponds autoloader. The only place to 
configure it is tape controller - J70, A60, or A05.

And this is job for CE, not sysprog.

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Re: 3590 Tape error when vol=ser not specified

2011-02-25 Thread Greg Caserta
EXCELLENT HELP THANKS 

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W dniu 2011-02-25 20:35, Robert A. Rosenberg pisze:
> At 22:33 +0100 on 02/24/2011, R.S. wrote about Re: 3590 Tape error when
> vol=ser not specified:
>
>> So, your OS/390 *thinks* that your 3590 does have autoloader.
>> Lack of autoloader casues surprise and message. However AFAIR it doesn't
>> hurt. You can simply ignore the messages.
>
> Or has your Systems Programmer do a new Sysgen to remove the Autoloader
> from the Device Definitions.

System programmer? I doubt. IMHO there is no option *in the system* 
(HCD, IODF, DFSMS) which corresponds autoloader. The only place to 
configure it is tape controller - J70, A60, or A05.
And this is job for CE, not sysprog.

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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread R.S.
I think that OMVS is already covered by BPXMCDS, but definitely sysplex 
aka XCF CDS is missing.
Just to complement: XCF is mandatory, while BPX aka OMVS aka (no! USS 
agan?) is not, it depends on configuration and needs.
The other optional CDSses are SFM and ARM. CFRM is mandatory when you 
want to use CF. LOGR is mandatory in almost all scenarions because it is 
mandatory for System Logger. WLM was already discussed - theoretically 
you can live without it, but the system is crippled.


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W dniu 2011-02-25 20:54, Staller, Allan pisze:

OMVS


I know these CDS types:

ARM
BPXMCDS
CFRM
LOGR
SFM
WLM

What's the 7th type?





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Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

2011-02-25 Thread McBride, Catherine
It really depends upon how stringent the requirements are in the shop
where the person who posted the original question works.  Here we have
some additional requirements, other shops may not.   
 
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Subject: Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

Plus, unlike a PC drive, on the DS8100 the data is stripped over
multiple drives.  Making data recovery on individual drives an exercise
in futility.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg
wrote:

> At 14:34 -0600 on 02/24/2011, McBride, Catherine wrote about Re: 
> Question about wiping a DS8100:
>
>
>  Yes, using the web-based Storage Manager application to change the 
> ranks
>> from one format to another will certainly work.
>> I was told that changing from one format to the other 3 times would 
>> be best.
>>
>
> That need to switch 3 times is based on your level of desire to 
> prevent recovery of your data. The first switch will remove all the 
> directory data and overwrite all the tracks. That makes all the data 
> vanish. However there are forensic  methods that may be able to read 
> the erased data although it has been overwritten. Thus the additional 
> reformats (which makes the data harder to find on the drive using the 
> forensic methods). This is the same situation as with PC Hard Drives 
> and Secure Erase. You use a higher Secure Erase setting to rewrite the

> tracks more times. Unless you expect that someone is going to go to 
> the trouble to do that level of data recovery, just removing the 
> directories and overwriting the tracks (so the data is no longer there
for normal reading or viewing the tracks) should be enough.
>
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Re: SYSREXX - From the console

2011-02-25 Thread Smith, Sean M
According to sources at IBM:

"The security environment that you get when AXREXX is invoked under a
console that is not logged on lacks an OMVS segment
so you need to logon w/ a userid that is properly defined."

So if you want to create a SYSREXX command and want the operators to be
able to issue the command from the console, the console may have to be
logged on depending if it requires an OMVS segment.  In this case, I was
creating a SYSREXX to UNMOUNT an HFS file via command from the console.

Sean Smith
Bank of America

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Hello fellow mainframers,

Working on setting up SYSREXX.  Here are my AXR00 parms:

CPF('RX',SYSTEM) 
AXRUSER(AXRUSER) 
REXXLIB ADD DSN(SYS1.SAXREXEC)   

We setup the AXR, AXR01-08 STC and the AXRUSER with the appropriate
SURROGAT as documented.

My challenge is that I have a very simple REXX in SYS1.SAXREXEC.  I want
it to be run with the AXRUSER Userid.  When I invoke it from SDSF via
/RX my-rexx it has my Userid.  When I do it from a console that is
logged on I get the console Userid and when I issue it from a console
that is not logged on I get USERID() = *.  I chatted with a friend in
Europe and he said his comes back with the Userid of the STC.  Except
for my Europeans friends results, it seems to me that any REXX that is
invoked via the F AXR or cpf is invoked with SECURITY=BYUTOKEN. 

Any and all help is as always greatly appreciated.

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Re: Removing BINS from RMM

2011-02-25 Thread Doug
On 2/25/2011 11:23, David G. Schlecht wrote:
> This seems like a pretty common exercise but I can’t find any meaningful 
> information on it. We have an offsite location that was bin managed so we 
> have numerous bins defined for the location. But now the location is no 
> longer bin managed and I’m trying to remove the bins from RMM, all of which 
> are empty.
>
> I changed the MANAGEMENTTYPE to NOBINS but RMM is still trying to assign bins 
> to tapes going to that location. I removed the bins from RMM and now RMM 
> housekeeping terminates because there are no bins in the location. I tried 
> re-adding some bins and RMM refuses, saying it’s not a self managed location: 
> Location OP is not shelf-managed. Specify the name of a shelf-managed storage 
> location.
>
> Seems I’ve gone full circle.
>
> Does anyone know how to tell RMM to quit assigning bins for this location?
>
> EDG2403E MOVE OF VOLUME VT0025 DEFERRED - NO AVAILABLE EMPTY BIN NUMBERS FOR 
> MEDIANAME CART IN LOCATION OP
>
> EDGRMM00:
> LOCDEF LOCATION(OP)
>MEDIANAME(CART)
>MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS)
>TYPE(STORAGE)
>
> RMM: 5.7.8
> Location Locdef Management Location Priority Media Names,
> Type   Type,
>  -- --   -
> .
> .
> .
> OP  ,YES   ,NOBINS,STORE   ,2000,CART
>
>
>
>
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Just a quick thought and maybe a dumb question but, did you tell RMM
about your location change? Cycle RMM to activate the change or issue a
modify
F stcnamehere,M=xx
the M=xx where xx is your parmlib member.

TSO LC RMM ALL should show what RMM is using currently.

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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Stan Weyman
  XCF (sysplex) - the key one.

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I know these CDS types:

ARM
BPXMCDS
CFRM
LOGR
SFM
WLM

What's the 7th type?

Luke

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Daniel Allen pisze:
> We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, we 
> would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging.
> 
> Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ?
> 
> Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ?

No, and no.

You have to create two CDS types: sysplex (aka XCF) and LOGR.
Oh, BTW, there are 7 CDS types.


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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Stan Weyman
  BPXMCDS is the OMVS CDS type Allan.

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OMVS


I know these CDS types:

ARM
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CFRM
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WLM

What's the 7th type?


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Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:10:47 +0100, R.S.  wrote:

>WLM was already discussed - theoretically
>you can live without it, but the system is crippled.
>

Not really.  Especially if you you have enough capacity. 

The OP looked like a vendor, and just as my onepack system runs great
with the default WLM policy (no WLM policy),  I could see z/OS running fine in
a small development environment that way also.  

STCs fall into a SYSTEM or SYSSTC service class based on their 
attributes (and probably the place they would be if you did have a decent WLM
policy), TSO users fall into a TSO service class, and batch falls into
SYSOTHER (discretionary). 

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Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

2011-02-25 Thread Nancy R. Brizuela
Many thanks to everyone for the great discussion on this topic!  Does anyone 
have any thoughts on the cache?  Do I need to worry about clearing that?  If 
so, does anyone have any ideas on how to do that?

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McBride, Catherine
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

It really depends upon how stringent the requirements are in the shop where the 
person who posted the original question works.  Here we have
some additional requirements, other shops may not.   
 
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Mark Pace
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

Plus, unlike a PC drive, on the DS8100 the data is stripped over multiple 
drives.  Making data recovery on individual drives an exercise in futility.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg
wrote:

> At 14:34 -0600 on 02/24/2011, McBride, Catherine wrote about Re: 
> Question about wiping a DS8100:
>
>
>  Yes, using the web-based Storage Manager application to change the 
> ranks
>> from one format to another will certainly work.
>> I was told that changing from one format to the other 3 times would 
>> be best.
>>
>
> That need to switch 3 times is based on your level of desire to 
> prevent recovery of your data. The first switch will remove all the 
> directory data and overwrite all the tracks. That makes all the data 
> vanish. However there are forensic  methods that may be able to read 
> the erased data although it has been overwritten. Thus the additional 
> reformats (which makes the data harder to find on the drive using the 
> forensic methods). This is the same situation as with PC Hard Drives 
> and Secure Erase. You use a higher Secure Erase setting to rewrite the

> tracks more times. Unless you expect that someone is going to go to 
> the trouble to do that level of data recovery, just removing the 
> directories and overwriting the tracks (so the data is no longer there
for normal reading or viewing the tracks) should be enough.
>
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Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

2011-02-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Does anyone have any thoughts on the cache?  Do I need to worry about clearing 
>that?

No.

>If so, does anyone have any ideas on how to do that?

Just turn it (the C/U) off.

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SDSF SAF how allow overtype for output CLASS and DESTN

2011-02-25 Thread John Mattson
Just got zOS 1.11 implemented (huzzah), and noticed that after my SAF 
conversion most everything works right except the Applications programmers 
cannot overtype the output Class and DESTN fields on the output screen. 
Sysprog and OPS group get overtype as before the upgrade.  Been comparing 
the groups both for RACF class settings and PARMLIB(ISFPRM00) member 
settings, but I have not found the thing to make it work for my 
programmers.  Even resorted to RTFM, and while I know it must be in these, 
no luck so far.  Anybody help with the magic word? 

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Re: SDSF SAF how allow overtype for output CLASS and DESTN

2011-02-25 Thread Mike Schwab
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r10.isfa500/isf4cs8049.htm
Protecting SDSF functions.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:32 PM, John Mattson  wrote:
> Just got zOS 1.11 implemented (huzzah), and noticed that after my SAF
> conversion most everything works right except the Applications programmers
> cannot overtype the output Class and DESTN fields on the output screen.
> Sysprog and OPS group get overtype as before the upgrade.  Been comparing
> the groups both for RACF class settings and PARMLIB(ISFPRM00) member
> settings, but I have not found the thing to make it work for my
> programmers.  Even resorted to RTFM, and while I know it must be in these,
> no luck so far.  Anybody help with the magic word?
>
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