Antwort: Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-19 Thread Michael Klaeschen
...should work if you have not too old 3592 units. They can use an 
encryption key manager EKM for the cipher phrase. This is an STC in z/OS. 
Try GA76-0418 as a starting point.
Cheers
Michael




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We're looking to encrypt all data that leaves the data center (offsite 
backup tapes, stuff we send via ssh, etc.).

Backup is done with a variety of products: FDR, DFSMSdfp, DFSMShsm, 
ADABAS backup, etc.

Do you have any recommendations for products? Or whether or not a 
do-it-yourself approach is feasible? I've searched the archives and it 
seems that encrypting tape hardware is the preferred solution. But what 
does one do with the stuff that doesn't go to tape?

We're running on a z890-220, z/OS 1.9 (yes, I know ... but our mainframe 
was supposed to be decommissioned this July; yes in 2 months ... but 
doesn't look like we're going to make it).

Thank you for any help you can provide.

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Re: Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-19 Thread R.S.

There are various forms of encryption.
As far as I understand your case, you simply want to encrypt the tapes 
leaving datacenter. I also assume, that you want to be able to read them 
also ;-)


In such case the most effective solution is tape drive with encryption.

Caution: In any case you have to carefully manage to be able to read 
encrypted data! It sounds funny, but I'm very serious here. The topic 
includes DR site, h/w failures, human errors, etc.




Other solutions:
* IBM Encryption Facility (also as a plugin for DFSMSdss)
* ASPG Megacryption - btw: I cannot contact them to get evaluation 
license! Don't they want to get new customers?

* SecureZip
* Slikzip

* Your own program. It's not so hard to create simple application using 
ICSF services. Of course, if you want to support various dataset types 
(VSAM, PDS, etc) then things get more complicated.



Oh, last but not least: If you are budget-constrained then you could 
consider 3592-E05 or -E06 drives, also available on second hand market.
Or STK/Sun/Oracle T1000A or B (model C is to fresh to be on second hand 
market).


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W dniu 2011-05-18 20:56, Stephen Y Odo pisze:

We're looking to encrypt all data that leaves the data center (offsite
backup tapes, stuff we send via ssh, etc.).

Backup is done with a variety of products: FDR, DFSMSdfp, DFSMShsm,
ADABAS backup, etc.

Do you have any recommendations for products? Or whether or not a
do-it-yourself approach is feasible? I've searched the archives and it
seems that encrypting tape hardware is the preferred solution. But what
does one do with the stuff that doesn't go to tape?

We're running on a z890-220, z/OS 1.9 (yes, I know ... but our mainframe
was supposed to be decommissioned this July; yes in 2 months ... but
doesn't look like we're going to make it).

Thank you for any help you can provide.




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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

2011-05-19 Thread Richard Marchant
Try the following command to fix the inconsistencies:

HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dset.name)

Richard

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Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am performing a cleanup of HSM dsns and I executed the following command:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FAILEDCREATE) OUTDATASET(PROM.DF.FAILEDCREA)
Several tapes were flagged and this message is being posted after each tape.
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT ON TAPE VOLUME

According to the explanation of the ARC0378I of a mismatch between the 
indicated 
 data sets on the tape volume volser as described in the offline control data 
set record (OCDS) tape table of contents record (TTOC) and the actual data sets 
residing on the volume.  The solution is to apply the EXTENDED 
MEDIACONTROLS function.  I am not sure how I can go about it because I have not 
very familiar with this procedure.  Could someone tell me how I can go about 
fixing the problem?
 
Thanks    


 


 

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Seems likely they will run predominantly as 2 (active) system even with the 
new LPAR.
Performance impacts can be mitigated.

I don't believe so, based on my experience.
Even an 'inactive' system, if running, has to participate in the ring for every 
toss of the GRS token.
Anything over two systems will degrade.
We went to GRS* as soon as we could because of that and we had 'inactive' 
systems in the ring.

I'm guessing your definition of acceptable performance is different than mine.
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Re: LE backwards compatibility

2011-05-19 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gross, Randall
[GCG-PFS]
 
 A toleration PTF is required if you want to run code compiled under
the 1.12 version of the COBOL
 compiler on a system with the 1.10 runtime libraries...

???

Which COBOL compiler has a 1.12 version?  AFAIK the most current
COBOL compiler at the moment is Enterprise COBOL 4.2.0, which works fine
on z/OS 1.11 and previously worked fine on z/OS 1.9 (we skipped z/OS
1.10).

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Re: Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-19 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S.
 
 There are various forms of encryption.
 As far as I understand your case, you simply want to encrypt the tapes
 leaving datacenter. I also assume, that you want to be able to read
them
 also ;-)
 
 In such case the most effective solution is tape drive with
encryption.
 
 Caution: In any case you have to carefully manage to be able to read
 encrypted data! It sounds funny, but I'm very serious here. The topic
 includes DR site, h/w failures, human errors, etc.

Indeed.  If you lose the [encryption] key, you've lost ALL of the
[encrypted] data.

-jc-

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Shane Ginnane
 I'm guessing your definition of acceptable performance is different than
 mine.

Probably not. As techos we want the latest and greatest with the best
speeds and feeds. Having dealt with a few smaller shops, I'm just
reconciled to the fact that not all customers are prepared to pay for the
privilege. 

Shane ...

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread JT
Thanks for all the responses here and offline. Here are some answers to 
questions about our environment:

- The 2096-T01 is our only processor.  We are running z/OS 1.11.
- We do not currently use sub-capacity processing.  We do not submit 
monthly SCRT reports.
- The T01 runs at 100% every night for 10 hours.
- The IMS address space and MPRs are up from 6AM-8PM daily.  These 
address spaces average LT 3% utilization during this time.  The peak for a 30 
minute interval is almost always under 5%.
- There is a small amount batch IMS during the nightly cycle (after 8PM).
- We run IMS TM/DM.  Some IMS TM also use DB2.
- We currently use CA-MIM when the TECH LPAR is up - not GRS.
- IMS DM and TM are currently under EWLC pricing.

The main IMS application is critical to our business.  It is not scheduled to 
be 
replaced for at least 5 years.

Several folks commented off-line that if we only use a single CEC there is no 
possibility of savings.  
Planning for Sub-capacity Pricing on z/OS indicates the sub-capacity pricing 
metric operates at the LPAR level.  I did not see anything about CEC 
limitations.  Did I miss something?

Are there any small shops out there that have been successful at controlling 
IMS costs by creating a separate 'IMS LPAR'?

Thanks for the responses.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

2011-05-19 Thread esmie moo
Richard,
 
Thanks for the advice.  I ran the audit then the FIX followed by the RECYCLE.  
Should I have done anything else?

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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE
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Try the following command to fix the inconsistencies:

HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dset.name)

Richard

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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am performing a cleanup of HSM dsns and I executed the following command:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FAILEDCREATE) OUTDATASET(PROM.DF.FAILEDCREA)
Several tapes were flagged and this message is being posted after each tape.
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT ON TAPE VOLUME

According to the explanation of the ARC0378I of a mismatch between the 
indicated 
data sets on the tape volume volser as described in the offline control data 
set record (OCDS) tape table of contents record (TTOC) and the actual data sets 
residing on the volume.  The solution is to apply the EXTENDED 
MEDIACONTROLS function.  I am not sure how I can go about it because I have not 
very familiar with this procedure.  Could someone tell me how I can go about 
fixing the problem?
 
Thanks    





 

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
JT jethin...@aol.com wrote in message
news:listserv%201105190741263228.0...@bama.ua.edu...
 Thanks for all the responses here and offline. Here are some answers
to 
 questions about our environment:
 
 - The 2096-T01 is our only processor.  We are running z/OS 1.11.
 - We do not currently use sub-capacity processing.  We do not submit 
 monthly SCRT reports.
 - The T01 runs at 100% every night for 10 hours.
 - The IMS address space and MPRs are up from 6AM-8PM daily.  These 
 address spaces average LT 3% utilization during this time.  The peak
for a 30 
 minute interval is almost always under 5%.
 - There is a small amount batch IMS during the nightly cycle (after
8PM).
 - We run IMS TM/DM.  Some IMS TM also use DB2.
 - We currently use CA-MIM when the TECH LPAR is up - not GRS.
 - IMS DM and TM are currently under EWLC pricing.
 
 The main IMS application is critical to our business.  It is not
scheduled to be 
 replaced for at least 5 years.
 
 Several folks commented off-line that if we only use a single CEC
there is no 
 possibility of savings.  
 Planning for Sub-capacity Pricing on z/OS indicates the sub-capacity
pricing 
 metric operates at the LPAR level.  I did not see anything about CEC 
 limitations.  Did I miss something?
 
 Are there any small shops out there that have been successful at
controlling 
 IMS costs by creating a separate 'IMS LPAR'?
 
 Thanks for the responses.
 

Beware of defining too many LPARs on a single physical CP, by creating
an IMS LPAR, possibly a CF LPAR etc. ROT for the number of physical vs.
logical processors is about 1:5.

Kees.

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Re: LE backwards compatibility

2011-05-19 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Enterprise COBOL 4.2 is also the version of choice for z/OS 1.12.

I may have had to apply a 1.12 toleration PTF for LE, but not suretoo long 
ago.

Bob

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gross, Randall
[GCG-PFS]

 A toleration PTF is required if you want to run code compiled under
the 1.12 version of the COBOL
 compiler on a system with the 1.10 runtime libraries...

???

Which COBOL compiler has a 1.12 version?  AFAIK the most current
COBOL compiler at the moment is Enterprise COBOL 4.2.0, which works fine
on z/OS 1.11 and previously worked fine on z/OS 1.9 (we skipped z/OS
1.10).

-jc-

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-05-19 15:12, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze:
[...]

Beware of defining too many LPARs on a single physical CP, by creating
an IMS LPAR, possibly a CF LPAR etc. ROT for the number of physical vs.
logical processors is about 1:5.

^^

What does it mean?
Is it ROT to have (at least) 1 physical CP per 5 logical processors?

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Shane Ginnane
 Several folks commented off-line that if we only use a single CEC there is
 no possibility of savings.  
 Planning for Sub-capacity Pricing on z/OS indicates the sub-capacity pricing 
 metric operates at the LPAR level.  I did not see anything about CEC 
 limitations.  Did I miss something?

Toss a few shekels Al Sherkows way and find out for sure.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

2011-05-19 Thread Richard Marchant
No, that's it!

The reason your tapes became 'inconsistent' is most probably because somebody 
cancelled HSM when it was using the tapes.

Richard  

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Richard,
 
Thanks for the advice.  I ran the audit then the FIX followed by the RECYCLE.  
Should I have done anything else?

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Try the following command to fix the inconsistencies:

HSEND AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS VOLUMES(volser) FIX ODS(your.dset.name)

Richard

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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I am performing a cleanup of HSM dsns and I executed the following command:
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FAILEDCREATE) OUTDATASET(PROM.DF.FAILEDCREA)
Several tapes were flagged and this message is being posted after each tape.
ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS ARE INCONSISTENT ON TAPE VOLUME

According to the explanation of the ARC0378I of a mismatch between the 
indicated 
data sets on the tape volume volser as described in the offline control data 
set record (OCDS) tape table of contents record (TTOC) and the actual data sets 
residing on the volume.  The solution is to apply the EXTENDED 
MEDIACONTROLS function.  I am not sure how I can go about it because I have not 
very familiar with this procedure.  Could someone tell me how I can go about 
fixing the problem?
 
Thanks    





 

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Staller, Allan
Also beware of a non-dedicated processer for the CF LPAR. This does many
poor things to performance.
Also, last I heard the Rule of Thumb (ROT ) for logical to physical
processors was between 2 and 3 logical to one physical.


snip
Beware of defining too many LPARs on a single physical CP, by creating
an IMS LPAR, possibly a CF LPAR etc. ROT for the number of physical vs.
logical processors is about 1:5.
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Spooled report with machine characters

2011-05-19 Thread Roberto Halais
Listers:

I have a report that is in the JES2 output queue.

It has machine characters in the first byte of each record.

I am testing a FCB with that file.

I have saved it to a dataset (RECFM=FBM) so that I can (later on) put it
back out into the queue for other tests but the machine characters are
translated to ASA characters once I save it to a file.

I tried using the XDC SDSF command but the machine characters are translated
to
ASA characters and I lose the original first byte values.

Is ther some way to tell JES2 not to convert the  the machine characters to
ASA.

Is there some CBT utility which can help me?

Any hints will be appreciated.

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Re: Reading dumps with secondary address spaces

2011-05-19 Thread Peter Relson
Might that be *HOME*?

Yes. 

Home = Primary = Secondary when a sysabend/sysudump/sysmdump is taken.

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Re: Spooled report with machine characters

2011-05-19 Thread Don Imbriale
I believe you need to use XFC rather than XDC.  You will need to
pre-allocate the output file and allocate it to a DDname of your choice.

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Roberto Halais roberto.hal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Listers:

 I have a report that is in the JES2 output queue.

 It has machine characters in the first byte of each record.

 I am testing a FCB with that file.

 I have saved it to a dataset (RECFM=FBM) so that I can (later on) put it
 back out into the queue for other tests but the machine characters are
 translated to ASA characters once I save it to a file.

 I tried using the XDC SDSF command but the machine characters are
 translated
 to
 ASA characters and I lose the original first byte values.

 Is ther some way to tell JES2 not to convert the  the machine characters to
 ASA.

 Is there some CBT utility which can help me?

 Any hints will be appreciated.



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How to monitor a Printer?

2011-05-19 Thread Michael Knigge

All,

using SDSF I can see the progress of a print-job - I can see the total 
number of records of the print-file and I can see the number of already 
printed records.


Does anyone of you know how to get this infomation (ASM, COBOL, C, ...)? 
I was wondering if there is an API or if it is possible to get this 
information by SNMP...



Thank you!


Bye,
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Re: How to monitor a Printer?

2011-05-19 Thread Mark Jacobs

On 05/19/11 09:41, Michael Knigge wrote:

All,

using SDSF I can see the progress of a print-job - I can see the total 
number of records of the print-file and I can see the number of 
already printed records.


Does anyone of you know how to get this infomation (ASM, COBOL, C, 
...)? I was wondering if there is an API or if it is possible to get 
this information by SNMP...



Thank you!


Bye,
Michael



Have you looked at the REXX interface into SDSF?

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Re: Spooled report with machine characters

2011-05-19 Thread Roberto Halais
Don:

XFC it is.

It worked like a charm.

Thank you.
Roberto

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I believe you need to use XFC rather than XDC.  You will need to
 pre-allocate the output file and allocate it to a DDname of your choice.

 - Don Imbriale

 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Roberto Halais roberto.hal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Listers:
 
  I have a report that is in the JES2 output queue.
 
  It has machine characters in the first byte of each record.
 
  I am testing a FCB with that file.
 
  I have saved it to a dataset (RECFM=FBM) so that I can (later on) put it
  back out into the queue for other tests but the machine characters are
  translated to ASA characters once I save it to a file.
 
  I tried using the XDC SDSF command but the machine characters are
  translated
  to
  ASA characters and I lose the original first byte values.
 
  Is ther some way to tell JES2 not to convert the  the machine characters
 to
  ASA.
 
  Is there some CBT utility which can help me?
 
  Any hints will be appreciated.
 
 

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Aw:Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

2011-05-19 Thread Monika Amiss
Hallo Peter,

 thank you very much for your answer. I looked at SMF14/15 and found some very 
small but often used datasets like:

  TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA
  TCPIP.FTP.DATA
  TCPIP.FTP.TCPXLBIN 

I put them into DLF with non-retain-definition and wrote a small sleeper job 
(open those ds and wait).
'D DLF' looks good:
 
  S=SYSTEM  SYSZSDO  S0180 COFGSDO SYSTC1TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA  
SYSNAMEJOBNAME   ASID TCBADDR   EXC/SHRSTATUS   
SYSE  TESTJOBZ   011C   009FE050   SHARE  OWN 
SYSE  TESTJOBY   012C   009FE050   SHARE  OWN  

but f DLF,SM says:

--- MAXIMUM -- CURRENT --- %MAX-
EXPB (EXPANDED BUFFERS):512 MEG  0 MEG   0 %
 (  NON-RETAINABLE):461 MEG  0 MEG   0 %
 (  10% RETAINABLE): 51 MEG  0 MEG   0 %   

Now I don't know if my datsets are managed in Hiperspace? COFDMON tells me, 
that the Datasets are too small to show results.
Can somebody gibe me a hint.
Thank you, Monika



Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Fri, 13 May 2011 06:19:28 -0700


DLF is for Hiperbatch (only, IIRC). Hiperbatch can keep data sets
n memory if the data is accessed via QSAM or VSAM (no PDS Members).

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Re: Question about Dynamic allocate

2011-05-19 Thread Tim Deller
I would try coding a wait (for a few seconds at least) after the dataset close.
This would allow time for the deallocate and catalog update to complete.
Tim

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Re: SDSF REXX stops working in z/os 1.10

2011-05-19 Thread Mike Myers
Ed:
 
WHO when executed from my TSO userid shows that I am in the desired group. 
 
WHO executed from a REXX procedure either run from that userid or run in a 
batch job submitted by that user gives a return code of 0, but nothing is 
returned (isfresp.0 is not getting set), so attempting to use it in a do loop 
(do x=1 to isfresp.0) results in an arithmetic error. 
 
I see in the 1.10 documentation that membership definition with SAF is said to 
be optional, but there is no obvious way to turn it off except for a reference 
that if you do not want SAF checking to occur you can write a user exit using 
the pre-SAF exit point. That would not be the way I would have designed a user 
interface for making such a choice, but I may have to try that.
 
Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital


 Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com 5/9/2011 4:30 PM 
WHO should tell which group the SDSF user is running in. Reassemble  ISFPRM 
with correct MACLIBs and put in SDSF.TEST.LOADLIB and STEPLIB to it for  
batch. 


In a message dated 5/9/2011 2:51:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mike.my...@pcmh.com writes:

Did  something change in the REXX interface for SDSF in z/OS 1.10? I have 
not been  able to find any items in the manuals or on the net.  



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Logical to Physical CPU ratio (was Re: Running a SYSPLEX ...)

2011-05-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 May 2011 15:12:40 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:


Beware of defining too many LPARs on a single physical CP, by creating
an IMS LPAR, possibly a CF LPAR etc. ROT for the number of physical vs.
logical processors is about 1:5.


On Thu, 19 May 2011 08:24:35 -0500, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
wrote:

Also beware of a non-dedicated processer for the CF LPAR. This does many
poor things to performance.
Also, last I heard the Rule of Thumb (ROT ) for logical to physical
processors was between 2 and 3 logical to one physical.


The old ROT was 2:1 and basically still applies.   It is also still documented
in the RMF Performance Management guide (Appendix A).  However, 
since the z990s came out, 3:1 is much more acceptable than it used to be
due to the changed architecture (TLB2). 

I have run as high as 4:1 in production environments (penalty box) 

The real answer is, whatever overhead you can live with and still
meet SLAs and don't define more logical processors than you need 
to do the work.  Even though HIPERDISPATCH helps out here, it 
doesn't really apply to smaller configurations with one frame and to LPARs
with only 2 engines (or 1).

Bottom line:  if it works and performance is acceptable, it's ok.  If you
have a System z processor and have 5 LPARs all with 2 LPs,
(5:1 ratio), whats the harm if the box never hits capacity (some people
are not comfortable defining an LPAR with only 1 CP).   

There is an old white paper about performance considerations
when moving to fewer faster CPUs.  That paper has a benchmark 
comparing CICS and batch response times between a 9672 and 
a z900 with a 10:1 LP/CP ratio  - and the z900 was better.  Now compare
that z900 200 mip engine with today's 1200+ mip z196 engine!

As a side note, I was just recently testing at a DR site with a single z196
engine
(general purpose) being shared between 3 CF LPARs (for 3 different sysplexes)
and over 15 z/OS images.  No productive work was being done, but they
were all up and running and TSO performance was still fine.  

Regards,

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Displaying structure names

2011-05-19 Thread Micheal Butz

Hi

Would anyone know the D XCF syntax
To display structure names

Thanks

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Re: z/OS 1.11 question on DFDSS/ADRDSSU

2011-05-19 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Could you eliminate the problem completely by directing the restore to a 
different volume instead of the default?

Well, yes, of course, but that would require effort and aforethought on my part 
... not bloody likely (grin)


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Re: Reading dumps with secondary address spaces

2011-05-19 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, May 19th, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Peter Relson wrote:

 Might that be *HOME*?
 
 Yes. 
 
 Home = Primary = Secondary when a sysabend/sysudump/sysmdump is taken.

:-)
Of all the people to argue with, this fella just has to be one of those you
should choose to sidestep ...

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Re: Displaying structure names

2011-05-19 Thread Mark Jacobs

On 05/19/11 10:14, Micheal Butz wrote:

Hi

Would anyone know the D XCF syntax
To display structure names

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone


 D XCF,STR

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Re: Displaying structure names

2011-05-19 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Or:

D ETR,DATA  Display External Timer Status
D CFDisplay Coupling Facility Details
D XCF,SYSPLEX,ALL   Display All Systems in the Sysplex
D XCF,COUPLEDisplay Couple Data Set(s) Status
D XCF,POLICYDisplay Active Policy Name(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PI,DEV=ALLDisplay Status of Active PATHIN(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PO,DEV=ALLDisplay Status of Active PATHOUT(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PI,STRNAME=IXC*   Display Status of Active PATHIN(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PO,STRNAME=IXC*   Display Status of Active PATHOUT(s)
D XCF,STR   Display Structure Names
D XCF,STR,STRNAME=* Display all Structures in Detail
D XCF,CF,CFNAME=*   Display Coupling Facility Detail

Bob


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On 05/19/11 10:14, Micheal Butz wrote:
 Hi

 Would anyone know the D XCF syntax
 To display structure names

 Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone

  D XCF,STR

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Re: Displaying structure names

2011-05-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 May 2011 10:14:41 -0400, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net
wrote:

Hi

Would anyone know the D XCF syntax
To display structure names

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone


What, you don't have bookmanager on your iPhone or access to
IBM's online doc via the web?  :-)

D XCF,STR   (or D XCF,STRUCTURE)

If you want a lot of detail:

D XCF,STR,STRNM=ALL 

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Re: Displaying structure names

2011-05-19 Thread Micheal Butz

The display XCF,STR,STRNAME=* was what I was looking for

Sent from my iPhone

On May 19, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov 
 wrote:



Or:

D ETR,DATA  Display External Timer Status
D CFDisplay Coupling Facility Details
D XCF,SYSPLEX,ALL   Display All Systems in the Sysplex
D XCF,COUPLEDisplay Couple Data Set(s) Status
D XCF,POLICYDisplay Active Policy Name(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PI,DEV=ALLDisplay Status of Active PATHIN(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PO,DEV=ALLDisplay Status of Active PATHOUT(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PI,STRNAME=IXC*   Display Status of Active PATHIN(s)
RO *ALL,D XCF,PO,STRNAME=IXC*   Display Status of Active PATHOUT(s)
D XCF,STR   Display Structure Names
D XCF,STR,STRNAME=* Display all Structures in Detail
D XCF,CF,CFNAME=*   Display Coupling Facility Detail

Bob


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Hi

Would anyone know the D XCF syntax
To display structure names

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone


 D XCF,STR

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Re: Question about Dynamic allocate

2011-05-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 May 2011 08:56:49 -0500, Tim Deller wrote:

I would try coding a wait (for a few seconds at least) after the dataset close.
This would allow time for the deallocate and catalog update to complete.

Grrr.  I detest designs that require the programmer to use delays
to (hopefully) resolve race conditions.

The requirement that a program not proceed until data have been
hardened is sufficiently common that there ought to be a WAIT=YES
operand for the CLOSE macro such that it would not return until
all reasonable side effects are complete.

Reasonable?  Waiting for a catalog update is reasonable; waiting
until a tape has been transported to a remote vault is not reasonable.

The UNIX sync() function suffers the same defect; it schedules a
request to harden the data but returns before the operation completes.

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Mainframe Engineering Openings

2011-05-19 Thread Janet Carlson
Please Note:  Communication approved by Listserv owner, Darren Evans-Young

Rocket Software, an enterprise software provider and IBM partner, has 
immediate, full-time openings for a Java Developer and QA Lead with Mainframe 
Storage expertise.  If you know of anyone who may be interested, please reply 
to this thread or have them contact me at 
jcarl...@rocketsoftware.commailto:jcarl...@rocketsoftware.com.  Rocket is 
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Position Summaries:

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QA Lead:  Refine product requirements, investigate design alternatives, and 
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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - SCRT -what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Donnelly, John P
We collect the SMF70,89 records throughout the month and submit a Subcapacity 
Report each month based on MSU usage;  we generally save a few dollars each 
month.
We must report on all LPARS defined to our processor; in our case a production 
LPAR and a test LPAR.
Our SCRT eligible products are:

z/OS V1,5694-A01,33 
CICS TS for z/OS V3,5655-M15,33 
MQSeries for z/OS V6,5655-L82,33
IBM Enterprise Cobol for z/OS and OS/390 V3

In our installation parameters for SCRT Release 19.2 the following IMS products 
are eligible for SCRT: 

EDIT   BDC2.SCRT.V19R2M0.NO89237 lines dele
 Command ===  Scroll === C
 ** * Top of Data **
 01 * IMS DATA COLLECTOR FOR WEBSPHERE STUDIO APPL MONITOR V3   
 02 * TIVOLI COMPOSITE APPLICATION MANAGER FOR IMS V6   
 **  Bottom of Data 

Suggest install the current SCRTool, collect the data over a month and see what 
you get...
If the rolling average for MSU utilization in a given month is lower than the 
licensed capacity of your processor you may save a few dollars each month...



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Thanks for all the responses here and offline. Here are some answers to 
questions about our environment:

- The 2096-T01 is our only processor.  We are running z/OS 1.11.
- We do not currently use sub-capacity processing.  We do not submit monthly 
SCRT reports.
- The T01 runs at 100% every night for 10 hours.
- The IMS address space and MPRs are up from 6AM-8PM daily.  These address 
spaces average LT 3% utilization during this time.  The peak for a 30 minute 
interval is almost always under 5%.
- There is a small amount batch IMS during the nightly cycle (after 8PM).
- We run IMS TM/DM.  Some IMS TM also use DB2.
- We currently use CA-MIM when the TECH LPAR is up - not GRS.
- IMS DM and TM are currently under EWLC pricing.

The main IMS application is critical to our business.  It is not scheduled to 
be replaced for at least 5 years.

Several folks commented off-line that if we only use a single CEC there is no 
possibility of savings.  
Planning for Sub-capacity Pricing on z/OS indicates the sub-capacity pricing 
metric operates at the LPAR level.  I did not see anything about CEC 
limitations.  Did I miss something?

Are there any small shops out there that have been successful at controlling 
IMS costs by creating a separate 'IMS LPAR'?

Thanks for the responses.

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - SCRT -what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 May 2011 09:04:17 -0700, Donnelly, John P
john.p.donne...@nsc.com wrote:

We collect the SMF70,89 records throughout the month and submit a
Subcapacity Report each month based on MSU usage;  we generally save a few
dollars each month.
We must report on all LPARS defined to our processor; in our case a
production LPAR and a test LPAR.


What are people doing for sandbox LPARs?  Ones that may be up and
down and may not even have tape or automated processes for collecting
and storing SMF data.   Most of the sandbox LPARs I have worked on in
the past have SMFDUMPs going to DD DUMMY.

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Re: Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-19 Thread Hal Merritt
 Encryption is trivial. Decryption is not. 

No keys, no data. Period. Effective encryption solutions are specifically 
designed to withstand attack. Plus consider that the data is already encoded 
and pretty much unusable unless decoded by the software that created it, and 
then processed by the application programs that understand the data. 

Personally, I just don't see an encryption solution that does not carry a 
significant risk of data loss. More, the risk of loss may be somewhat greater 
than the risks of compromise. 

Indeed, I saw a situation once where the keys were in hand, but a software flaw 
prevented them from being entered correctly. Another situation were a filing 
error caused the wrong keys to be retrieved. Scary. Very scary. 


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 ..snip
 
 Caution: In any case you have to carefully manage to be able to read 
 encrypted data! It sounds funny, but I'm very serious here. The topic 
 includes DR site, h/w failures, human errors, etc.

Indeed.  If you lose the [encryption] key, you've lost ALL of the [encrypted] 
data.

-jc-

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - SCRT -what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Patrick Falcone
Hey Mark,

We have a fairly sizable plex and I try to report on as many as I can...some of 
the sandbox stuff falls outside the plex. I've run the plex,  MULC and SCRT 
reports and am always told to include everything that I possibly can. So 
typically I have a handful of sandbox LPAR's that have either partial or no 
data and I include what I can...

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On Thu, 19 May 2011 09:04:17 -0700, Donnelly, John P
john.p.donne...@nsc.com wrote:

We collect the SMF70,89 records throughout the month and submit a
Subcapacity Report each month based on MSU usage;  we generally save a few
dollars each month.
We must report on all LPARS defined to our processor; in our case a
production LPAR and a test LPAR.


What are people doing for sandbox LPARs?  Ones that may be up and
down and may not even have tape or automated processes for collecting
and storing SMF data.   Most of the sandbox LPARs I have worked on in
the past have SMFDUMPs going to DD DUMMY.

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Re: Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-19 Thread Stephen Y Odo

On 05/18/2011 03:39 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:

This being the site that a couple of years ago was 20 years into its 5 year
plan to get off the mainframe ?.
Pity to see another one (finally) bite the dust.
yup ... that's us ... we're now in year 23 of our 5-year plan to migrate 
off of the mainframe ... it's easy for me to keep track because it was 
the year that my daughter was conceived that my boss quipped that in 5 
years I'll have to look for another job because the mainframe would be 
gone. so there I was, with a brand new mortgage on our first home and 
with my first child on the way and worrying about retraining so I can 
find a job in 5 years ... my daughter is now 22 (going to be 23 soon) 
and we're still talking about me being out of a job when the mainframe 
goes ...


anyway, project was extended another year ... now we're looking to be 
migrated by next summer ... but because it's not going away this year, 
we now need to be in compliance with policy and regulation that 
stipulates that all data containing sensitive information and going off 
site needs to be encrypted.


to ensure that we don't go into year 24, our management has secured very 
large funding to bring in external help to get the migration done. 
sheesh! if we had spent a fraction of what they've already spent on 
migrating to open systems (yes, they still call them that) on our 
mainframe, we would have a really awesome system in place right now!


but, that point is moot, we've migrated 90% of our applications off of 
the mainframe already ... just one more to go (financials) ... and I can 
start looking for a new job ...



With all this (encrypted) data, how are you going to read (most of) it after
the box goes away ?.
from what I've been told, we shouldn't need it once we migrate to our 
new system ... (hah! right ...)


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Re: SDSF REXX stops working in z/os 1.10

2011-05-19 Thread Ed Finnell
If you're not getting ICH msgs around the batch job I'd follow eeels  
suggestion and open a PMR.
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2011 9:00:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mike.my...@pcmh.com writes:

user  gives a return code of 0, but nothing is returned (isfresp.0 is not 
getting  set), so attempting to use it in a do loop (do x=1 to isfresp.0) 
results in an  arithmetic error. 



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Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi would anyone know give a PC number how I can find out the  
associated module address


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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Ray Overby
Try SNAPX with the SDATA=(PCDATA) parameter specified. This would assume 
that you know which LX the PC routine resides in.


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Hi would anyone know give a PC number how I can find out the 
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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:18:51 -0400 Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net
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:Hi would anyone know give a PC number how I can find out the  
:associated module address

Get thee to the POPs and start from CR5.

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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Rob Scott
Take an SVC Dump of the PCAUTH address space using the DUMP operator command 
and then use IPCS and go into option 2.4 (AnalysisSummary) and then choose 
Format and scroll down the report until you see the PC routine table listed

Note that some of the more well-known IBM PC routine numbers are documented in 
the MVS Diagnosis Reference manual

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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Micheal Butz

Control register 5. ???

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wrote:

:Hi would anyone know give a PC number how I can find out the
:associated module address

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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Rob Scott
What Binyamin is referring to is that CR5 contains the address of the ASTE for 
the home address space. 

The ASTE contains all sorts of cross-memory info used by the PCAUTH address 
space. If you are feeling masochistic you can try hunting down the various 
pointers and convert addresses between real and virtual and you will probably 
eventually end up somewhere with PCAUTH looking at some obscure control block.

If you are looking at a dump - it is much better to use IPCS to format the data 
for you.

If you want to find out this information from within a program then things get 
more (ahem).. interesting 

  

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Control register 5. ???

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - SCRT -what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Greg Shirey
On Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:36 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: 

What are people doing for sandbox LPARs?  Ones that may be up and
down and may not even have tape or automated processes for collecting
and storing SMF data.   Most of the sandbox LPARs I have worked on in
the past have SMFDUMPs going to DD DUMMY.

When submitting the SCRT, there is a place to explain underreporting.  
So, we write a note stating that the Test LPAR was only up for x number
of hours for testing the new release of whatever we're testing - or  
whatever is appropriate for that month's reporting.  

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company

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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Jim Thomas
The simplest (and easiest) way, assuming you do not have any monitors by
which
you could traverse storage, is to take a SVCDUMP of PCAUTH issue a
Format 
Sum Regs and (even just a Format ...) and scan down to the list of PC
routine 
address's ...  

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Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-19 Thread Bob Rutledge

JT wrote:
Thanks for all the responses here and offline. Here are some answers to 
questions about our environment:


- The 2096-T01 is our only processor.  We are running z/OS 1.11.
- We do not currently use sub-capacity processing.  We do not submit 
monthly SCRT reports.

- The T01 runs at 100% every night for 10 hours.
- The IMS address space and MPRs are up from 6AM-8PM daily.  These 
address spaces average LT 3% utilization during this time.  The peak for a 30 
minute interval is almost always under 5%.

- There is a small amount batch IMS during the nightly cycle (after 8PM).
- We run IMS TM/DM.  Some IMS TM also use DB2.
- We currently use CA-MIM when the TECH LPAR is up - not GRS.
- IMS DM and TM are currently under EWLC pricing.

The main IMS application is critical to our business.  It is not scheduled to be 
replaced for at least 5 years.


Several folks commented off-line that if we only use a single CEC there is no 
possibility of savings.  
Planning for Sub-capacity Pricing on z/OS indicates the sub-capacity pricing 
metric operates at the LPAR level.  I did not see anything about CEC 
limitations.  Did I miss something?


You did not.  Start at

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/resources/swprice/

and discover that, if you establish a second LPAR and run IMS (and, potentially 
DB2) only in that LPAR you can indeed use sub-capacity pricing.  There's a link 
to the sub-capacity-eligible software from the EWLC description.




Are there any small shops out there that have been successful at controlling 
IMS costs by creating a separate 'IMS LPAR'?


Not IMS, but CICS/TS and DB2.  The hardest part was determining beforehand just 
how much savings we could expect.  Use your business partner to find out the 
cost given the MSU consumption by the (new) LPAR.


Bob

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Re: How to tell what security product

2011-05-19 Thread Kirk Talman
In my notes I also have DBLT =  DeadBolt

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 how I did it was from the RCVT.
 
 if RCVT  then RACF
 if ACF2  then ACF2
 if RTSS  then TopSecret


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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Rob Scott
Of course, CR5 contains the ASTE for the *Primary* ASID - not home as stated 
previously  

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What Binyamin is referring to is that CR5 contains the address of the ASTE for 
the home address space. 

The ASTE contains all sorts of cross-memory info used by the PCAUTH address 
space. If you are feeling masochistic you can try hunting down the various 
pointers and convert addresses between real and virtual and you will probably 
eventually end up somewhere with PCAUTH looking at some obscure control block.

If you are looking at a dump - it is much better to use IPCS to format the data 
for you.

If you want to find out this information from within a program then things get 
more (ahem).. interesting 

  

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Control register 5. ???

Sent from my iPhone

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 On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:18:51 -0400 Micheal Butz 
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 wrote:

 :Hi would anyone know give a PC number how I can find out the 
 :associated module address

 Get thee to the POPs and start from CR5.

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Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)

2011-05-19 Thread Phil Smith
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Webster's on a dictionary has no significance - it's just an attempt to 
cadge some legitimacy by invoking Noah Webster's name). Try AHD or OED (both 
of which do support the usage).

 Dictionaries do NOT support usage!
 They report it!

 Any usage is subject to consensus.

 We, when I was a kid, used to say ain't ain't in the dictionary.

 It is, now!

Good point...that's what I meant by support: they assert that it is a common 
usage. The better ones (AHD comes to mind) include comments on non-standard 
usage-and these evolve with each revision. (There's no such note for issue as 
a synonym for problem.) As a broad example, compound nouns typically evolve 
from open (web server) to hyphenated (web-server) to closed 
(webserver). The OED, of course, has a group who do nothing but track this 
evolution and make updates for the next rev.

However, note that the OP seems convinced that dictionaries define 'correct' 
spelling and usage...

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Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)

2011-05-19 Thread Mike Liberatore

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On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Webster's on a dictionary has no significance - it's just an attempt to 
cadge some legitimacy by invoking Noah Webster's name). Try AHD or OED (both 
of which do support the usage).

 Dictionaries do NOT support usage!
 They report it!

 Any usage is subject to consensus.

 We, when I was a kid, used to say ain't ain't in the dictionary.

 It is, now!

Good point...that's what I meant by support: they assert that it is a common 
usage. The better ones (AHD comes to mind) include comments on non-standard 
usage-and these evolve with each revision. (There's no such note for issue as 
a synonym for problem.) As a broad example, compound nouns typically evolve 
from open (web server) to hyphenated (web-server) to closed 
(webserver). The OED, of course, has a group who do nothing but track this 
evolution and make updates for the next rev.

However, note that the OP seems convinced that dictionaries define 'correct' 
spelling and usage...

...phsiii

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Re: Address of a PC routine

2011-05-19 Thread Micheal Butz

Thankx


Sent from my iPhone

On May 19, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com  
wrote:


What Binyamin is referring to is that CR5 contains the address of  
the ASTE for the home address space.


The ASTE contains all sorts of cross-memory info used by the PCAUTH  
address space. If you are feeling masochistic you can try hunting  
down the various pointers and convert addresses between real and  
virtual and you will probably eventually end up somewhere with  
PCAUTH looking at some obscure control block.


If you are looking at a dump - it is much better to use IPCS to  
format the data for you.


If you want to find out this information from within a program then  
things get more (ahem).. interesting




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Control register 5. ???

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On Thu, 19 May 2011 16:18:51 -0400 Micheal Butz
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:Hi would anyone know give a PC number how I can find out the
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Keith S Zawila is out of the office

2011-05-19 Thread Keith Zawila
I will be out of the office starting  05/19/2011 and will not return until
05/25/2011.




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