Re: Spool volumes and SMS
Non sms with a 14 track vtoc just so you don't have 13 tracks left for another dataset. On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > > Just curious as to a general consensus, do you use SMS for spool volumes? > - > Nope. Didnt even index the VTOC(s). > > Rick -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: alter dataset blocksize
Hi, Why to preserve or change the date of the dataset? An user had a library (PDS) with the incorrect BLOCKSIZE, so the HSM backup/migrate did not work for this dataset, we asked to the customer to fix the dataset using standard procedure (create new one, copy, delete old & rename the new one). But... The user told us, it was fixed, so i went to check it, found i could perform an hsend backds ..., it was correct, and check the library info, found it with the correct blocksize, and also found that the creation date was the same, "it was not changed". It make me surprised, couse i have no explanation why this happens. Thanks, Enrique Montero -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [BULK] Re: Roll your own USS
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane > > Now we're getting somewhere. > > Shane ... > > > On Mon, Aug 29th, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Greg Dorner wrote: > > > Ugly Semantics Silliness OK, ONE time only: Unbelievably Sophomoric Stupidity -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [BULK] Re: Roll your own USS
Now we're getting somewhere. Shane ... On Mon, Aug 29th, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Greg Dorner wrote: > Ugly Semantics Silliness -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [BULK] Re: Roll your own USS
Unix Says So Ugly Semantics Silliness -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Book: What On Earth is a Mainframe?
I am sure there are many definitions. Here is one from http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/basics/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.zconcepts/zconcepts_159.htm Multiple Virtual Storage (MVS). An earlier form of the z/OS operating system. In current usage, the term MVS refers to those services and functions of z/OS other than z/OS UNIX system services, such as those provided by the base control program (BCP), a base element of z/OS. David L. Mingee Principal Systems Administrator Indianapolis Production Control Data Center Operations / Operations Technical Support Work Ext 782-6460 Work Direct Dial 317 581-6460 Home 317 598-0919 / Cell 317 341-0885 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Book: What On Earth is a Mainframe? On 8/28/2011 1:48 PM, Stephen Y Odo wrote: > but ... I thought the OS was still MVS ... and z/OS was a "package" > that included MVS and a bunch of components (DFSMShsm, RACF, etc.) ... That is exactly how OS/390 was pitched when it first came out. Instead of having to order and install MVS, your choice of JES, TSO/E, ISPF, etc., you now had this pre-packaged "system" called OS/390--with base and optionally priced features that were selectively activated via IFAPRDxx. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [BULK] Re: Roll your own USS
Useless Systems Staffer ?? Unbearable System Slander ?? Unexplainable System Slowdown ?? Ubiquitous Systems Slang ?? Rick -- Ted MacNEIL wrote: Unsubstantiated subsystem selection. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Ed Finnell Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:00:15 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Roll your own USS ubiquitous system service unctuous symbol staff uniform stooge symbiotic uninformed staticsilly uneducated stellar stymied unleavened stem stuff unwashed stump state unequal stamp stiff universalstatedsullied Unicode stokestop -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spool volumes and SMS
Just curious as to a general consensus, do you use SMS for spool volumes? - Nope. Didnt even index the VTOC(s). Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JCL Changes and SMS and Not Cataloged Datasets
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It may work for you, but I'd rather not have your (potential)
maintenance issues! (8-{[}
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Never had a problem. Perhaps because we kept SYS1.IPL0 on the IPL
volume. Knock wood. :-)
Rick
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Re: Book: What On Earth is a Mainframe?
On 8/28/2011 1:48 PM, Stephen Y Odo wrote: but ... I thought the OS was still MVS ... and z/OS was a "package" that included MVS and a bunch of components (DFSMShsm, RACF, etc.) ... That is exactly how OS/390 was pitched when it first came out. Instead of having to order and install MVS, your choice of JES, TSO/E, ISPF, etc., you now had this pre-packaged "system" called OS/390--with base and optionally priced features that were selectively activated via IFAPRDxx. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What On Earth is a Mainframe?
Stephen Y Odo wrote: >I know I'm coming in kinda late to this ... my apologies ... i don't read this list as often as I'd like ... >but ... I thought the OS was still MVS ... and z/OS was a "package" that included MVS and a bunch of components (DFSMShsm, RACF, etc.) ... Now that's an interesting perspective. Sort of like "Linux" vs. "Red Hat Enterprise Linux" -- so z/OS is a distro? I don't *think* that's how IBM would describe it, but perhaps one of the IBMers on the list can jump in. (I am certain that "System z" is a new brand replacing "zSeries", which was the original point, but in no way does that mean your thought is necessarily invalid!) ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Book: What On Earth is a Mainframe?
I know I'm coming in kinda late to this ... my apologies ... i don't read this list as often as I'd like ... but ... I thought the OS was still MVS ... and z/OS was a "package" that included MVS and a bunch of components (DFSMShsm, RACF, etc.) ... --Stephen On 08/26/2011 11:43 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: Ted MacNeil wrote, re "zSeries" vs. "System z": What's wrong with that? I still call it MVS! Ok, but it's not "MVS" any more. Do you drive a Model T? Is your desktop a 486? Do you run Windows 95? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE Attendance
Thought, I would just add some number (not sure if this has already been done). I am doing this from memory so they may only be real close. 607 Paid Full Conference Attendees 950-980 Total Attendees including speakers, vendors and all full conference -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance I was at SHARE in Anaheim (couldn't go to Orlando); skipped dinner to be sure not to miss SCIDS . I don't remember any sing-along. What time did it start? Maybe I left too early? Linda - Original Message - From: "Schneck.Glenn" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:10:24 AM Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance I believe so, but it was small and did not go real late either. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SHARE Attendance On 8/16/2011 5:03 AM, Schneck.Glenn wrote: > Not sure what happened. Kristin Harper and the zNextgen were involved > in the sing along but not sure what the deal was this time. From the > CICS Project I can say it was a lame 'Farewell SCIDS'. Was there a sing-along in Anaheim? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live Solid. Bank Solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What On Earth is a Mainframe?
Thank you Phil for the public and private apology. I didn't believe you meant the statement the way the it COULD be taken. PS. The Americans are the one's that changed...you USED to be a British colony and spell just like a Canadian ;-) Dan -Original Message- From: Phil Smith III Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:46 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Subject: Re: What On Earth is a Mainframe? DanD wrote: I hope you weren't intentionally insulting a nation during your pissing match. Oh, no, my humblest apologies -- of course you might quite reasonably read it that way. I grew up there, so was thinking of color/colour center/centre etc., not intending to insult anyone! ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What On Earth is a Mainframe?
DanD wrote: >I hope you weren't intentionally insulting a nation during your pissing match. Oh, no, my humblest apologies -- of course you might quite reasonably read it that way. I grew up there, so was thinking of color/colour center/centre etc., not intending to insult anyone! ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spool volumes and SMS
No. On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 14:50 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: > Just curious as to a general consensus, do you use SMS for spool volumes? > > Ed > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- John McKown Maranatha! <>< -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spool volumes and SMS
No, not in the 4 shops I've worked in since 95. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: Gibney, Dave [gib...@wsu.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Spool volumes and SMS Probably never will. Unless an all SMS mandate appears for future z/OS. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Mike Liberatore > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 3:39 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Spool volumes and SMS > > Never did. > --Original Message-- > From: Ed Gould > Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > Subject: Spool volumes and SMS > Sent: Aug 27, 2011 5:50 PM > > ?Just curious as to a general consensus, do you use SMS for spool volumes? > > Ed > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
