Re: Terminology

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 12/03/2011
   at 09:29 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg"  said:

>The Charset can also be ISO-8859-1

Il va sans dire. I wrote "e.g.", not "i.e.", so those fields were
examples.

>(which is the usual ISO-8859-*).

ISO-8859-a is Latin 1, which does not include the Euro (€) character.
ISO-8859-15 is its replacement. Of course, with the meltdown of the
Euro Zone, ...

>Euro Symbol [ ]

You're posting in Latin 1; there is no Euro symbol.

>Even better since it will show ALL Glyphs just use UTF-8.

Alas, my e-mail client does not support Unicode, which is why I use
ISO-8859-15. If I find an acceptable replacement then I will, of
course, configure it to use UTF-8.
 
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Re: Terminology

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <201112031227.41137.ibm...@woodsway.com>, on 12/03/2011
   at 12:27 PM, Bob Woodside  said:

>Other old 3270 users just call it "Shift-6" (but don't try that on
>your PC keyboard).

Alt-M[1] gives me ¬ on my PC keyboard. YMMV.

[1] I would have consider Alt-6 to be more logical[2], but thay
gives me °[3].

[2] G, D & R.

[3] Dead key round circle.
 
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Re: ¬ (was: Terminology)

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In
,
on 12/03/2011
   at 06:26 PM, John Gilmore  said:

>This symbol is present in Unicode as the HTML entity ¬, the
>numeric entity ̤,  and the hexadecimal entity ¬.

The entities ¬[1], ¬ and ¬ represent the same value[2],
which is distinct from ̤[3][4].

[1] Technically there is a semicolon after each of the entities.

[2] Logical Not (¬)

[3] For characters not in the ISO-8859-a range, it's clearer if you
use heaxadecimal rather than decimal; in this case, ̤

[4] I don't see anything at that code point in the chart at

 
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Re: Expiration date

[Barry Merrill]

As originally published in the JIR, The Journal for Irreproducible Research,
from the Society for Irreproducible Research, at least three decades ago,
comparing Oranges to Apples, to imply non-similarity is not valid; if you
consider their mass, conductivity, specific gravity, density, energy
content,
moisture content, value per gram, and many other physical attribute they are
far more similar than dissimilar.  If you wish to compare apples, that
original article suggest, do it with England, Envelopes, or Orgasms.

Barry Merrill

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<7A64EE34BA2BDC4093CCA94CE3153E6F06767A@TMPEXCHMB06.enterprise.corpad.timein
c.com>,
on 12/02/2011
   at 04:43 PM, Hervey Martinez  said:

>Does anybody know as to what takes precedence under SMS, either an 
>expiration date(on a disk dataset) or "expire non-usage" on a 
>management class?

Isn't that an apples to oranges comparison?
 
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Re: Expiration date

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In
<7a64ee34ba2bdc4093cca94ce3153e6f067...@tmpexchmb06.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com>,
on 12/02/2011
   at 04:43 PM, Hervey Martinez  said:

>Does anybody know as to what takes precedence under SMS, either an
>expiration date(on a disk dataset) or "expire non-usage" on a
>management class?

Isn't that an apples to oranges comparison?
 
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Re: Terminology

[Robert A. Rosenberg]

At 17:06 -0500 on 11/22/2011, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about 
Re: Terminology:



Correct transmission of anything but ASCII require three header
fields, e.g.,

 Mime-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


The Charset can also be ISO-8859-1 (which is the usual ISO-8859-*). 
It differs from -15 by not having a few French letters missing from 
-1 and having the fraction characters (1/4, 1/2, 3/4) that were 
removed in -15 to make room for the French Characters. -15 also 
officially contains the Euro Symbol [¤] which is not in -1. Even 
better since it will show ALL Glyphs just use UTF-8.


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¬ (was: Terminology)

[John Gilmore]

This symbol is present in Unicode as the HTML entity ¬, the numeric
entity ̤,  and the hexadecimal entity ¬.

The late Alonzo Church called it a 'corner', and for mathematical
logicians there was and is little appeal from his terminological
decisions as the founding and longtime editor of the Journal of
Symbolic Logic.

Others sometimes call it just a 'not symbol', which is ambiguous
because the '~' is also sometimes called a not symbol.   The now
established Unicode equivalence of '¬ ' and the HTML entity ¬ makes
it likely that it will eventually supplant other notation for
negation.   In the 1950s there was also some use of the name
half-turnstile because the assertion symbol '-|' is called a
turnstile, but that was too precious to live, and I believe that it
has indeed died.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Difference between IEF458D and IEF099I

[Ford Prefect]

Dave,

This thread isn't about unit allocation, it's about dataset contention.
Replying no in this case will cause a failure of dynamic allocation.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Gibney, Dave  wrote:

> One of the first automations we put in oh so many moons ago :), was to
> always reply no and then nohold to this situation. Back then, it was always
> not enough tape drives that caused it. Now, we have no tapes for general
> use (I implemented "TMM" and divert all to disk) and once in a long while,
> this triggers without ill effect.
>
> Dave Gibney
> Information Technology Services
> Washington State University
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:19 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Subject: Re: Difference between IEF458D and IEF099I
> >
> > >
> > >>z/OS V1.11
> > >>
> > >>We get many jobs contending for datasets.  These are all DASD rather
> than
> > tape.
> > >>
> > >>Sometimes I will see the IEF458D message and sometimes the IEF099I.
> > >
> > >
> > >IEF458D jobname stepname WAITING FOR DATASET. TO CANCEL WAIT
> > REPLY 'NO'
> > >
> > >Explanation:  For authorized dynamic allocation, the system requires a
> > >data set that is in use by another job. Message IEF863I names the data
> > >set.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >IEF099I JOB jobname WAITING FOR DATA SETS
> > >
> > >Explanation:  During initialization of a job, the job required data sets
> > >that were not available. These data sets are named in message IEF863I.
> > >When the data sets become available, the system will reserve them for
> the
> > >job and job initialization will continue.
> > >
> > >
> > >>I am trying to see what the difference is which causes one of these
> two to
> > be produced.
> > >
> > >It looks like you get IEF099I when the data set is in the JCL and
> IEF485D
> > >when it is requested by dynamic allocation.
> > >
> > >>And how I can get the IEF458D to not show up.
> > >
> > >Be careful what you wish for. If indeed IEF458D is for dynamic
> allocation,
> > >the message allows you to cancel to avoid a deadlock.
> > >
> > >>I do have OPS/MVS so a complete suppression would work, but if it were
> > TAPE I think I need to see it.
> > >
> > >Do you have jobs that dynamically allocate tape data sets?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Tom Marchant
> > >
> >
> > Yes - Through the Change Control Process used by CA-Endevor.  I would
> also
> > suspect that Changeman might also do this.
> >
> > Lizette
> >
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Re: Assembler calling macro IEEVARYD

[Binyamin Dissen]

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 11:17:54 -0600 Leonardo Vaz 
wrote:

:>Hello all. I'm still crawling when it comes to assembler, but i've already 
done some cool thigs like changing the APF list, dynamically adding modules to 
the LPA or using the callrtm macros, real fun.

:>But I'm having a problem I can't bypass... I keep getting S0C4 when trying to 
use the IEEVARYD macro, I'm supposed to getmain some storage but I'm not really 
sure how to. I'm trying something very similar to IBM's example 2: 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a2b0/72.1.14?SHELF=iea2bkb0.bks&DT=20100630112343

:>You guys have any tips for me? Anyone has a working example? 

Why not post your code?

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Re: Terminology

[Bob Woodside]

On Saturday, December 03, 2011 at 02:22 am Dale Miller wrote:
> I hope, since this is not about "USS", that I won't be moderated on
> this. I wish to reply to a question John McKown raised on 18 Nov
> :"And what is the proper word for the PL/1 "not" sign' ? (x'00AC' in
> Unicode). It is a standard operator in formal mathematical language,
> AFAIK almost universally used to indicate logical negation in an
> expression, and normally called the "negation symbol", but
> informally called the "not sign".

Users of x3270 tend to call it a "CircumNot" (I'm not sure whether Paul 
Mattes coined the term, or one of the earlier x3270 maintainers). 

Other old 3270 users just call it "Shift-6" (but don't try that on your 
PC keyboard).


Bob Woodside

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Re: Assembler calling macro IEEVARYD

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <5796249828333419.wa.leonardo.vazitau.com...@bama.ua.edu>, on
12/02/2011
   at 11:17 AM, Leonardo Vaz  said:

>You guys have any tips for me?

Get up to speed on assembler for unprivileged applications before
writing privileged code. ObPogo Even paranoids have real enemies.
 
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