Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)
I would add support for more PC editors. I don't use the GUI interface, but do like to edit on the PC especially for the cut&paste. My have had problems finding editors that work with WSA. For example a popular PC editor Ultraedit won't work. Gray Maddry -Original Message- modified for brevity From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator) Well, the obvious requirements are 1. Allow multiline text and block cut&paste operations. 2. Support WSA on Linux, with C&P interoperability for KDE and GNOME. 3. ATTN support in WSA client. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)
That kind of cutting is sometimes called block or column mode and many PC editors support that. Ultraedit, ConText, Crimson Editor to name three. E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Kline Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator) > I would add support for more PC editors. I don't use the GUI interface, > but do like to edit on the PC especially for the cut&paste. Do any of the PC editors support cutting just selected columns from multiple lines? For example, on TN3270 I can cut and paste columns 10-20 from rows 2-5, and do NOT get columns 1-9 or beyond column 20 for any line. When I try this on any of the PC editors I've used, they want to copy columns 10 through end-of-line from row 2, all of rows 3-4, and columns 1- 20 from row 5. That just never works out too well for my mainframe source files. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PC Editor (was: favorite way to print mainframe assemblies)
I opened a question to IBM on why editors work and the answer I got was the editor had to edit the file in place and couldn't make a copy and edit the copy. In checking editor here is what I have found Editors that work with WSA - Notepad, PFE, THE, txtedit, vim, context, Crimson Editor Editors that DON'T work with WSA - synedit, cpe, xpad, editpadlite, Ultraedit I am currently using context, a free editor that has hiliting for many languages including ASMA90, ISPF Panels, JCL, PLI, ISPF Skeletons, REXX, and SAS. E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:27 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PC Editor (was: favorite way to print mainframe assemblies) > > In a recent note, Dave Salt said: > > > Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 14:52:35 + > > > > >From my perspective, it's nice to be able to select a mainframe file from > > >an > > ISPF session (e.g. select a member from a member list) and have it open on > > my PC using my favorite PC/workstation editor. From past experience I know > > that some workstation editors work very well with WSA, while others do not. > > Examples of those that work are NotePad, SPF/PC, and THE. Examples of those > > that don't (or didn't) work with WSA are XPAD, UltraEdit, and Synedit. > > > What makes an editor work or fail to work with WSA? My first suspect > would be synchronous vs. asynchronous operation. An editor operating > asynchronously launches the edit session in a new window, then returns > immediately to command line prompt. If WSA perceives this apparent > command termination as completion of the edit session and then restores > the file to a z/OS directory, undesirable results occur. > > Editors operating in the command window rarely have this problem. > Editors with an asynchronous mode need to have a WAIT option. > > -- gil > -- > StorageTek > INFORMATION made POWERFUL > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PC Editor (was: favorite way to print mainframe assemblies)
I agree that editing in place may not be the whole answer CPE from Compuware also had the option to edit in place and it wouldn't work either. I get use CPE as the browse option. I just couldn't save a file. I don't think the command invocation is the issue. All the editors I know can be started that way. E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. > From Dave Salt > > I'm not sure this is the full reason. I tried using UltraEdit (which makes a > copy of the file and edits the copy), but it has an option to stop this from > happening; i.e. so the original file is edited 'in place'. Even with this > option turned on, I still couldn't get it to work. So, maybe it's a > combination of editing files in place and something else? > > From what I understand the WSA invokes the PC editor using the following > syntax: > > command.com /c program "parameters" > > For example, I can invoke NotePad from a DOS prompt to edit a file using the > following: > > command.com /c notepad "C:\LOGFILE.TXT" > > As I can invoke Notepad manually using this command, it makes sense that the > WSA would also be able to invoke Notepad this way. Perhaps people could try > this command with different PC/editors and report the results? Maybe it will > yield a clue as to why some PC/editors can be invoked using this command > while others cannot? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need source file editor recommendations
I don't do heavy editing on the PC. With that caveat I have tried many editors and the one I use now is CONTEXT, http://www.context.cx. It is a free editor with syntax highlighting for zOS and High Level Assembler, JCL, PLI ,SAS, ISPF Panels and REXX. It also works with ISPF WSA. Gray Maddry E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
1.6 to 1.7 JES2 gotcha
We found this out the hard way as it is not documented in either the JES2 Migration Guide nor in the PSP bucket that in a MAS all node definition must be the same. We have installed z/OS 1.7 on our test and development sysplexes, but when we installed into production this weekend we got these messages ¢HASP563 NODE(72) DEFINITION HAS CHANGED 064 NODE(72) NAME=N72 WILL BE CHANGED TO NAME=AGISUD NODE(72) PATHMGR=YES WILL BE CHANGED TO PATHMGR=NO *73 ¢HASP441 REPLY 'Y' TO CONTINUE INITIALIZATION OR 'N' TO TERMINATE IN RESPONSE TO MESSAGE HASP563 We opened a problem with IBM and got this response: "I will attempt to answer your question regarding HASP563 first. In JES2 z/OS 1.7 we added additional function for the $TNODE command which means that the node definitions are now kept in the CHECKPOINT so they have MAS-wide scope. During a warm start, JES2 will check the NODE parm values and compare them with the values in the checkpoint. They should be the same since it is documented in the JES2 INIT and Tuning Guide Chapter 5: Network Job Entry (NJE) topic: Multi-Access Spool (subsection Example of a Multi-Access SPOOL node) "All JES2 members of a multi-access spool node must specify the same value for the OWNNODE= and NODENUM= parameters on the NJEDEF statement in each of their initialization data sets. They must also have identical node definition parameters as specified on the NODE() initialization statement, including the node name. " At z/OS 1.7 JES2 will issue HASP563 during initialization if it detects a difference between what is in the checkpoint and the NODE parms in the INIT deck to notify the operator of the discrepancy." Note: the text from the Guide is under the heading of "Example of a multi-access SPOOL node" I am posting the warning as JES2 level to is reluctant to update the Migration Guide to include this information. Gray Maddry ITS State of North Carolina E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SYSOUT Archival Product with Content Search capability?
Systemware has a complete suite for Mainframe and other platforms, includes SYSOUT and report management. E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Logging on to multiple LPAR with same id
We recently did an upgrade to CA-MIM and encountered a problem with multiple logins. MIM added the following SYSIKJBC GDIF=YES, /* Needed when SYS1.BRODCAST SCOPE=SYSTEMS, /* data set is shared between EXEMPT=NO, /* multiple systems, per IBM. ECMF=YES, /* COREQ is to comment the RPTAFTER=30,/* 'LOCAL RNAME=SYS1.BRODCAST' RPTCYCLE=60 /* statement in GDIEXMPT. SYSIKJUA GDIF=YES, /* Needed when SYS1.UADS SCOPE=SYSTEMS, /* data set is shared between EXEMPT=NO, /* multiple systems, per IBM. ECMF=YES, /* COREQ is to comment the RPTAFTER=30,/* 'LOCAL RNAME=SYS1.UADS' RPTCYCLE=60 /* statement in GDIEXMPT. The effect of the SYSIKJUA is to allow only one login per MIM-PLEX. According to CA this is IBM recommendation. We changed the scope to SYSTEM to continue to allow multiple logins. E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe News
> -Original Message- > From:Dave Salt > > In some ways, the ISPF editor is already 'COBOL aware'. If highlighting is > turned it colors the program to show comments, literals, key words, and so > on. You can also use just about any PC editor to seamlessly edit mainframe > files; e.g. select a COBOL program from a member list and it instantly opens > on a PC/workstation using a favorite workstation editor. All of this is free > (i.e. no add-on products to buy, no Websphere Developers environment to > install, etc). Your favorite workstation editor probably won't work. We have had this discussion before here and on the ISPF list. One of the most popular PC editors, Ultraedit, doesn't work. ISPF CS is great when you can get it to work, but it requirements are poorly documented, such as what port is used. E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BMC Mainview for USS
What claims? It is now part of MV for OS390 (that is no extra charge). We are not a big USS shop but I have used MV for USS a few times and it helped. I have not compared it to other products. E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html