Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Mike Baldwin wrote: [...] They already have to keep old 3490-compatible drives, doesn't matter what brand. Why? Because they already need to get tapes from IBM. If not, then they don't need any IBM tape drives now and in the future as well. So, they have to deal with old equipment. So, they can discover Internet or buy another old hardware: 3590. It's really cheap now. There are sometimes non-technical obstacles or barriers to those being used or implemented. I would like to think not, but that's what I observe. Yes, I know. Usually it's because my boss said no. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Mike Baldwin wrote: Three years later, I guess this (discontinue software distribution on tape) is still in the planning stage. A customer of ours just ordered their IBM z/OS maintenance...on 3490 tapes. They've kept some C22's. Did you try to *convince them* to use Internet delivery or CD/DVD? STK shops wonder what to do with those 3590/3592 carts, when they do sometimes arrive. They already have to keep old 3490-compatible drives, doesn't matter what brand. So, they have to deal with old equipment. So, they can discover Internet or buy another old hardware: 3590. It's really cheap now. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Hi R.S., On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:22:00 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They've kept some C22's. Did you try to *convince them* to use Internet delivery or CD/DVD? Although I would use Internet myself, it's not my role there and I would not want to usurp yours as the DVD evangelist ;-) Seriously, only minutes are spent on this and it's not considered a problem. STK shops wonder what to do with those 3590/3592 carts, when they do sometimes arrive. They already have to keep old 3490-compatible drives, doesn't matter what brand. Why? So, they have to deal with old equipment. So, they can discover Internet or buy another old hardware: 3590. It's really cheap now. There are sometimes non-technical obstacles or barriers to those being used or implemented. I would like to think not, but that's what I observe. Regards, Mike Baldwin Cartagena Software Ltd. www.cartagena.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Linda Mooney wrote: We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance. We will be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even older 3480 drives. We will still have a need to read and write some physical 3480 and 3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a lot of them. About 6-8 drives would be plenty. Does anyone have/know of anything that might work for us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. Why don't you keep your existing hardware? It's cheap - you already paid it It's working - you currently use it If you need to save floor space, then you can reduce the size of your ATL (eiliminate some cabinets) or just keep only the drives and controller. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2008 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 złote i został w całości wpłacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Look for a 3490-C22. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
In a message dated 9/24/2008 7:05:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's cheap - you already paid it It's working - you currently use it If you need to save floor space, then you can reduce the size of your ATL (eiliminate some cabinets) or just keep only the drives and controller. Won't it depend on the service contract terms and limitations? In the olden days with yearly renewals the maintenance provider would jack up the price on old equipment so that it was cheaper to outsource than to maintain. There are some chameleon products about, but don't know the availability or support implications for OP. **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
I would observe that this perception might be more superstition and ancient legends than factual :-) Find the right person at your business partner and propose a change in media/transport. I'll bet a virtual brew that you'll be met with cheers and jubilation more often than not. Why? Because they are hanging onto old media because they think that's all -you- can support. Moving to a modern media could save them money as well. Finding the right person is key because operations types often lack the skills/authority to make the simple JCL adjustments. So. When your contact insists that only antique media is supported, ask for escalation. I heard of one case where the 3480 folks had no idea that the shop was very big into FTP. I would watch out for shops investing in a complicated labor intensive multi hop FTP solution with store and forward servers. Some auditors are uneasy because the data exists in the clear as it passes through these servers. HTH Hal -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3480/3490 tape devices Thanks, and we are going to thin down our physical tape supply to our newer media. We actually need to be able to write new datasets to 3480 and to 3490e physical tapes. We will have to sontinue to send out tapes to outside vendors and customers until contracts expire and customers are willing/able to accept FTP. Linda -- Original message -- From: Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps your best bet would be to copy them to new media. The media itself has a lifespan. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 3480/3490 tape devices We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance. We will be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even older 3480 drives. We will still have a need to read and write some physical 3480 and 3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a lot of them. About 6-8 drives would be plenty. Does anyone have/know of anything that might work for us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. Thanks, Linda Mooney -- NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
In a message dated 9/24/2008 9:41:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some auditors are uneasy because the data exists in the clear as it passes through these servers. My suspicion is that there are nefarious agents planted in mail rooms and courier services to look for MF tapes. The really good ones advanced have copiers that look like a Walkman and can transfer a tape to memory stick in a matter of minutes. **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:41:22 -0500, Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would observe that this perception might be more superstition and ancient legends than factual :-) Find the right person at your business partner and propose a change in media/transport. I'll bet a virtual brew that you'll be met with cheers and jubilation more often than not. Why? Because they are hanging onto old media because they think that's all -you- can support. Moving to a modern media could save them money as well. We have a 3490-C22 just for this. But it, to me, seems to be mainly because most in my group are not comfortable with using FTP or CD distribution of products. We are used to getting fixes via email. But not entire products. I get all my z/OS PTFs via download from ShopzSeries. I may do my next z/OS order that way too. And Compuware supplied their latest release on a CD with a front end program which made it dead simple to upload to z/OS. Very nice. Our other tape medium in 3592J carts. Which are very expensive! Finding the right person is key because operations types often lack the skills/authority to make the simple JCL adjustments. So. When your contact insists that only antique media is supported, ask for escalation. I heard of one case where the 3480 folks had no idea that the shop was very big into FTP. We just converted our last file transfer user from our 3745 to encrypted ftp. Now we can get rid of the 3745 (which we own), NCP and SSP. A nice savings. I would watch out for shops investing in a complicated labor intensive multi hop FTP solution with store and forward servers. Some auditors are uneasy because the data exists in the clear as it passes through these servers. Which is way ALL files which come in from the outside must be encrypted at our shop. HTH Hal -- John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Apologies if you've already seen this: IBM plans to discontinue delivery of software on 3480, 3480 Compressed (3480C), and 3490E tape media. IBM recommends using Internet delivery when ordering your z/OS products or service, which eliminates tape handling. If you must use physical delivery, you may continue to choose 3590 or 3592 tape media. Internet delivery is IBM's flagship delivery method; therefore, future software delivery enhancements will be focused on Internet delivery. Kevin. ** This email (and any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy, distribute, disseminate or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please reply and tell us and then delete it. Should you wish to communicate with us by email we cannot guarantee the security of any data outside our own computer systems. For the protection of Legal General's systems and staff, incoming emails will be automatically scanned. Any information contained in this message may be subject to applicable terms and conditions and must not be construed as giving investment advice within or outside the United Kingdom. Legal General Group plc is registered in England under company number 1417162 and is a holding company. The registered office for all companies in the Legal General group is One Coleman Street London EC2R 5AA. The following subsidiary companies of Legal General Group Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority: Legal General Partnership Services Limited, Legal General Insurance Limited, Legal General Assurance Society Limited, Legal General (Unit Trust Managers) Limited and Legal General (Portfolio Management Services) Limited. Legal General International (Ireland) is incorporated in Ireland under company number 440141 with its registered office at Beaux Lane House, Lower Mercer Street, Dublin 2, Ireland and is authorised by the Financial Regulator in Ireland and by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of insurance business in the UK. Full details can be found at http://www.legalandgeneralgroup.com ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:52 +0100, Greeley, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies if you've already seen this: IBM plans to discontinue delivery of software on 3480, 3480 Compressed (3480C), and 3490E tape media. IBM recommends using Internet delivery when ordering your z/OS products or service, which eliminates tape handling. If you must use physical delivery, you may continue to choose 3590 or 3592 tape media. Internet delivery is IBM's flagship delivery method; therefore, future software delivery enhancements will be focused on Internet delivery. Kevin. I hadn't seen that. Thanks. I forwarded it to my manager. The fecal material is likely to impact the air moving device. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
And no smiley :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3480/3490 tape devices In a message dated 9/24/2008 9:41:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some auditors are uneasy because the data exists in the clear as it passes through these servers. My suspicion is that there are nefarious agents planted in mail rooms and courier services to look for MF tapes. The really good ones advanced have copiers that look like a Walkman and can transfer a tape to memory stick in a matter of minutes. **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
We did look at keeping the existing devices, but like many others we are in a space/power/cooling crunch for our raised floor. Plus with the age and mileage on this equipment the maintenance costs are increasing, then add in the costs of reducing the size of the ATL, the bottom line dictates replacement. Thanks, Linda -- Original message -- From: R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda Mooney wrote: We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance. We will be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even older 3480 drives. We will still have a need to read and write some physical 3480 and 3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a lot of them. About 6-8 drives would be plenty. Does anyone have/know of anything that might work for us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. Why don't you keep your existing hardware? It's cheap - you already paid it It's working - you currently use it If you need to save floor space, then you can reduce the size of your ATL (eiliminate some cabinets) or just keep only the drives and controller. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl S±d Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia³ Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru S±dowego, nr rejestru przedsiêbiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wed³ug stanu na dzieñ 01.01.2008 r. kapita³ zak³adowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 z³ote i zosta³ w ca³o¶ci wp³acony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
No problemo. For us, our pysical tape needs are driven by our customers. I am already using internet delivery for IBM products and some of our ISVs. Some of our suppliers don't have internet delivery available yet. Thanks, Linda -- Original message -- From: Greeley, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apologies if you've already seen this: IBM plans to discontinue delivery of software on 3480, 3480 Compressed (3480C), and 3490E tape media. IBM recommends using Internet delivery when ordering your z/OS products or service, which eliminates tape handling. If you must use physical delivery, you may continue to choose 3590 or 3592 tape media. Internet delivery is IBM's flagship delivery method; therefore, future software delivery enhancements will be focused on Internet delivery. Kevin. ** This email (and any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy, distribute, disseminate or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please reply and tell us and then delete it. Should you wish to communicate with us by email we cannot guarantee the security of any data outside our own computer systems. For the protection of Legal General's systems and staff, incoming emails will be automatically scanned. Any information contained in this message may be subject to applicable terms and conditions and must not be construed as giving investment advice within or outside the United Kingdom. Legal General Group plc is registered in England under company number 1417162 and is a holding company. The registered office for all companies in the Legal General group is One Coleman Street London EC2R 5AA. The following subsidiary companies of Legal General Group Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority: Legal General Partnership Services Limited, Legal General Insurance Limited, Legal General Assurance Society Limited, Legal General (Unit Trust Managers) Limited and Legal General (Portfolio Management Services) Limited. Legal General International (Ireland) is incorporated in Ireland under company number 440141 with its registered office at Beaux Lane House, Lower Mercer Street, Dublin 2, Ireland and is authorised by the Financial Regulator in Ireland and by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of insurance business in the UK. Full details can be found at http://www.legalandgeneralgroup.com ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Three years later, I guess this (discontinue software distribution on tape) is still in the planning stage. A customer of ours just ordered their IBM z/OS maintenance...on 3490 tapes. They've kept some C22's. STK shops wonder what to do with those 3590/3592 carts, when they do sometimes arrive. Regards, Mike Baldwin Cartagena Software Ltd. www.cartagena.com Subject: Re: Product availability on 3592 From: Mike Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:04:22 -0500 At a recent presentation by Jim Elliott of IBM (IBM System z9, z/OS and z/VM, 2005-09-15), the direction was stated that software shipment on tape will cease in Sept. 2006. Here is an excerpt from a slide: z/OS Statements of Direction Reducing ordering interfaces and delivery mechanisms SMP/E Internet Service Retrieval intended to simplify z/OS Service acquisition Available September 2005 New ESO and CBPDO physical delivery subscriptions no longer accepted Effective March 2006 Service-Only CBPDO orders no longer accepted Effective June 2006 Existing ESO and CBPDO physical delivery subscriptions discontinued Effective September 2006 Here is a link to the presentation: http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/pdfs/naspa-z9.pdf Regards, Mike Baldwin Cartagena Software Ltd. http://www.cartagena.com On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:27:48 -0500, John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:52 +0100, Greeley, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies if you've already seen this: IBM plans to discontinue delivery of software on 3480, 3480 Compressed (3480C), and 3490E tape media. IBM recommends using Internet delivery when ordering your z/OS products or service, which eliminates tape handling. If you must use physical delivery, you may continue to choose 3590 or 3592 tape media. Internet delivery is IBM's flagship delivery method; therefore, future software delivery enhancements will be focused on Internet delivery. Kevin. I hadn't seen that. Thanks. I forwarded it to my manager. The fecal material is likely to impact the air moving device. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
3480/3490 tape devices
We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance. We will be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even older 3480 drives. We will still have a need to read and write some physical 3480 and 3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a lot of them. About 6-8 drives would be plenty. Does anyone have/know of anything that might work for us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. Thanks, Linda Mooney -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Perhaps your best bet would be to copy them to new media. The media itself has a lifespan. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 3480/3490 tape devices We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance. We will be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even older 3480 drives. We will still have a need to read and write some physical 3480 and 3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a lot of them. About 6-8 drives would be plenty. Does anyone have/know of anything that might work for us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. Thanks, Linda Mooney -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3480/3490 tape devices
Thanks, and we are going to thin down our physical tape supply to our newer media. We actually need to be able to write new datasets to 3480 and to 3490e physical tapes. We will have to sontinue to send out tapes to outside vendors and customers until contracts expire and customers are willing/able to accept FTP. Linda -- Original message -- From: Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps your best bet would be to copy them to new media. The media itself has a lifespan. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 3480/3490 tape devices We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance. We will be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even older 3480 drives. We will still have a need to read and write some physical 3480 and 3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a lot of them. About 6-8 drives would be plenty. Does anyone have/know of anything that might work for us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. Thanks, Linda Mooney -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
