Re: Servicing z/OSMF (Was: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF - SOLVED!)

2011-07-18 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 7/16/2011 8:28 PM, Greg Dorner wrote:

I've experienced some strange install/maintenance scenarios with  z/OSMF, but 
have managed so far to get it all put back together again. I went from z/OS 
1.10 to 1.12 with z/OSMF, which was a bit tricky with all the config file 
changes, but I haven't had any problems with PTF's. You just need to NOT take 
the holddata literally. They give you the parameters to run the shell script. 
but the user controlled variables, like config name and location must be 
replaced with those required for your environment. The doc in the hold could be 
worded much better.


The primary intent of my post was to ascertain, from IBM-MAIN participants with 
off-platform WAS maintenance experience, whether similar manual, post-service 
requirements exist on other platforms or if this need is a z/OS idiosyncrasy...


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Servicing z/OSMF (Was: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF - SOLVED!)

2011-07-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
No surprises this time. The following ++HOLD instructions were followed and all 
is well...


We have _only one_ WAS application (z/OSMF) and we had to manually run two 
scripts. That makes me wonder:


1) If we had twenty WAS applications, would we need to manually run twenty-one 
scripts?


2) Are similar post-service steps required on other platforms when servicing WAS 
and WAS applications? Or is this a z/OS idiosyncrasy?


Websphere OEM
To apply service for the IBM WebSphere Application Server OEM
for z/OS V7.0, perform the following steps:

1. Stop IBM IBM WebSphere Application Server OEM for z/OS V7.0
   if it is running.

2. Roll service into place.

3. Using a privileged user id, before starting each WebSphere
   Application Server OEM for z/OS V7.0 instance, run the
   fixAllGroupPerms.sh script from the WebSphere Application
   Server OEM for z/OS V7.0 product file system, specifying the
   WebSphere Application Server OEM for z/OS instance WAS_HOME
   directory.

   For example:

  cd /usr/lpp/zWebSphereOEM/V7R0/bin
  ./fixAllGroupPerms.sh   /zWebSphereOEM/V7R0/condfig1/AppServer

   This script will ensure that the post-installer can correctly
   update files in the profile configuration.  This should only
   be necessary once per IBM WebSphere Application Server OEM
   for z/OS V7.0 instance.

4. Start IBM WebSphere Application Server OEM for z/OS V7.0.
/Websphere OEM

z/OSMF
If z/OSMF has already been configured, then it will
be necessary to redeploy z/OSMF.

To redeploy the z/OSMF, perform the following steps:

1. Stop the appropriate IBM WebSphere Application Server
   OEM Edition for z/OS if it is running.

2. Run the following script from the z/OSMF Administrator ID.
   (ZOSMFAD, by default)

   Specify the next 2 lines on a single command line.
   /usr/lpp/zosmf/V1R12/bin/izusetup.sh -file
/etc/zosmf/izuconfig1.cfg -service

3. Restart IBM WebSphere Application Server OEM Edition for
   z/OS.

In this example, izuconfig1.cfg is the name of the configuration
file used to save your configuration settings. If you installed
z/OSMF as part of a ServerPac order, the configuration file is
named serverpac.cfg. The configuration file is stored, by
default, in the /etc/zosmf directory.).
/z/OSMF

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Re: Servicing z/OSMF (Was: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF - SOLVED!)

2011-07-16 Thread Greg Dorner
I've experienced some strange install/maintenance scenarios with  z/OSMF, but 
have managed so far to get it all put back together again. I went from z/OS 
1.10 to 1.12 with z/OSMF, which was a bit tricky with all the config file 
changes, but I haven't had any problems with PTF's. You just need to NOT take 
the holddata literally. They give you the parameters to run the shell script. 
but the user controlled variables, like config name and location must be 
replaced with those required for your environment. The doc in the hold could be 
worded much better.   

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF - SOLVED!

2011-05-31 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 5/22/2011 7:55 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
A few months ago, we brought up z/OSMF under z/OS 1.12. Applying service this 
weekend made it totally unusable. It turns out our configuration files have 
been wiped out!


OK. Thankfully, our configuration files were not lost. Rather, some ominous 
looking messages made it appear that way and some good ol' fashioned conclusion 
jumping did the rest.


First, WAS OEM would not come up. The second step (the 'Multi-Product PTF 
Post-Installer') failed with RC=4095. It writes STDERR and STDOUT to 
/zWebSphereOEM/V7R0/config1/BBNBASE.BBNNODE.BBNS001.HOME/properties/service/logs/applyPTF.out 
which had as its last line:


FSUM1004 Cannot change to directory /var/zWebSphereOEM/V7R0/home/WSCFG1

Second, when we attempted to redeploy z/OSMF using the 
'/usr/lpp/zosmf/V1R12/bin/izusetup.sh -file /etc/zosmf/izuconfig1.cfg -service' 
command shown in the ACTION HOLD, it failed with:


IZUG207E: File /etc/zosmf/izuconfig1.cfg does not exist.

It appeared we had lost our configuration information. In reality, we just 
needed to run the z/OSMF redeployment script with the correct parameters for our 
installation. The last line in that applyPTF.out file is now:


No post install service pending, no action taken. Tue May 31 12:48:23 PDT 2011

WAS OEM initializes and z/OSMF is accessible again. Whew!

Apologies for the false alarm--especially to poor Anuja Deedwaniya whose eyes 
were probably as big as saucers when she first saw my post! :-[ That's what 
happens when you let part-time sysprogs do a full-time sysprog's job. ;-)


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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF - SOLVED!

2011-05-31 Thread Anuja Deedwaniya
Hi Ed, Thanks for the update. I am so glad this worked out for you. 
Take care!
-Anuja Deedwaniya

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-24 Thread Anuja Deedwaniya
Hi Ed,
 The runtime or product (read only) hfs is managed via SMPE, whereas the
config hfs is not managed through SMPE. Or it is not supposed to be.
Applying service to the WAS OEM runtime hfs should not destroy the config
hfs or require redeploy of z/OSMF.

It looks like that you applied both WAS OEM and z/OSMF maintenance. The
HOLDDATA for the z/OSMF PTFs will instruct that the affected applications
need to be redeployed via the script as a post SMPE install step.
The z/OSMF service should be activated  'after' any WASOEM service update is
completed.

I would like to work with you to understand what could have happened, as
typically service upgrade in WASOEM or z/OSMF should not wipe out your
configuration files or require you to reconfigure. 
Take care!

Regards,
Anuja Deedwaniya

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 5/24/2011 9:52 AM, Anuja Deedwaniya wrote:

I would like to work with you to understand what could have happened, as
typically service upgrade in WASOEM or z/OSMF should not wipe out your
configuration files or require you to reconfigure.


I re-read the three ACTION HOLDs in our SMP/E run and two of them say to 
'redeploy z/OSMF' after the APPLY using a shell script. They are UK62012 and 
UK62872. The other ACTION HOLD was in UK62090 for WAS OEM. It doesn't actually 
say we should save/restore the configuration per se. It says we should make a 
copy of [our] product file system data set (whatever that is) and perform the 
APPLY against that. We didn't do that copy step, so maybe something got corrupted?


Running /usr/lpp/zosmf/V1R12/bin/izusetup.sh -file /etc/zosmf/izuconfig1.cfg 
-service under ZOFMFAD:


IZUG207E: File /etc/zosmf/izuconfig1.cfg does not exist.
IZUG211E: Script /usr/lpp/zosmf/V1R12/bin/izusetup.sh encountered errors: 
exiting script.


Sure enough, that file doesn't exist.

Starting WAS OEM:

IEF142I BBNS001 BBNS001 - STEP WAS EXECUTED - COND CODE 
IEF142I BBNS001 - STEP WAS EXECUTED - COND CODE 4095
IEF272I BBNS001 BBNS001 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.
IEF272I BBNS001 BBNS001 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.

I just assumed this behavior was WAD. Since you're surprised by this, I'll do 
some digging when I get a chance and I'll let you know (via private email) what 
I find. Thanks!


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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-24 Thread Roger Lowe
On Tue, 24 May 2011 17:53:26 -0700, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
..snip..
I re-read the three ACTION HOLDs in our SMP/E run and two of them say to
'redeploy z/OSMF' after the APPLY using a shell script. They are UK62012 and
UK62872. The other ACTION HOLD was in UK62090 for WAS OEM. 
..snip
Ed,
 FYI - I have managed to successfully install the above listed ptfs to
our z/OS 1.12 zOS MF environment without any problems. Since installing
those ptfs, they have been subsequently sup'd:
UK62012 - UK64892
UK62872 - UK66066
UK62090 - UK66412
.
Roger

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-23 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Ed, 
Do you have the specific ptf that had that hold? I ask because I just ran an
applycheck for everything for wasoem and z/osmf, and only got one hold, on
UK66412. It could be that I'm at a higher level than you, but I just want to
verify. 

Thanks!
MA

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-23 Thread Carson, Brad
Ed and Barbara,

Yes, this is one of those hidden features you get with updating WASOEM or 
z/OSMF.  Besides having SMPPTS entries that are larger than those for JAVA, 
applying then will very nicely wipe out your configuration files.  When 
applying this maintenance, I create a clone filesystem to hold all the config 
files.  Then I can just pull them back over after the apply is complete and I 
have a chance to see what has happened to the target filesystem.

Always fun when dealing with products that don't fully understand how SMPE can 
work for you.  Everyone is trying to use the One size fits all format in a 
tailored world.  Doesn't really work too good does it?


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Fax: 336-436-1033
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Nitz
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:09 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

 A few months ago, we brought up z/OSMF under z/OS 1.12. Applying
 service this weekend made it totally unusable. It turns out our
 configuration files have been wiped out!
...
 I'm not sure if this is what I would necessarily call 'progress', but
 it's definitely a brave new world out there. Beware!

Uh-oh - is that Barbara I hear charging in from stage calling out
I tried to warn you all ... ?

:-)

No it's not. We haven't installed it, anyway. But I am really NOT surprised,
given how I hear my colleagues complain about WAS deploys. I even went
through a 2 day seminar on deploying this stuff under zLinux, and then I
'got' why z/OSMF deploy is a two-stage process. I consider it too awkward,
anyway.

Given that I knew WAS back when it was called 'Component Broken' (by those
that heard about it - OS/390 R6 days), I am waiting for the day when they go
back to replacing the full product every time a single ptf needs to go in
(and when they ditch SMP/E :-) ). Now *THAT* will be fun for z/OS! NOT.

I do appreciate Eds warning, though, and will gleefully relate it to anyone
here who might have wanted to 'test' z/OSMF, despite my dire warnigns :-)

Barbara

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-23 Thread Jousma, David
Since it appears that the config files must live in SMPE managed
filesystems, it would seem like you need to make your config files a
usermod so that they are not lost.I already do something like this
for the required JAVA filesystem changes that are necessary for tape
encryption.

Usermod would then just reload your config files after the application
of the maintenance.  Only other alternative would be to externalize the
config files to /etc, if that is even possible.   I am not running
z/OSMF yet.

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Subject: Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

Ed and Barbara,

Yes, this is one of those hidden features you get with updating WASOEM
or z/OSMF.  Besides having SMPPTS entries that are larger than those for
JAVA, applying then will very nicely wipe out your configuration files.
When applying this maintenance, I create a clone filesystem to hold all
the config files.  Then I can just pull them back over after the apply
is complete and I have a chance to see what has happened to the target
filesystem.

Always fun when dealing with products that don't fully understand how
SMPE can work for you.  Everyone is trying to use the One size fits
all format in a tailored world.  Doesn't really work too good does it?


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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-23 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 5/23/2011 5:29 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:

Ed,
Do you have the specific ptf that had that hold? I ask because I just ran an
applycheck for everything for wasoem and z/osmf, and only got one hold, on
UK66412. It could be that I'm at a higher level than you, but I just want to
verify.


You're probably ahead of me. I installed the following three PTFs:

UK62090
UK62012
UK62872

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-22 Thread Shane
Uh-oh - is that Barbara I hear charging in from stage calling out
I tried to warn you all ... ?

:-)

Shane ...

On Sun, 22 May 2011 19:55:03 -0700 Edward Jaffe wrote:

 A few months ago, we brought up z/OSMF under z/OS 1.12. Applying
 service this weekend made it totally unusable. It turns out our
 configuration files have been wiped out!
... 
 I'm not sure if this is what I would necessarily call 'progress', but
 it's definitely a brave new world out there. Beware!

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Re: A Warning to Anyone Servicing z/OSMF

2011-05-22 Thread Barbara Nitz
 A few months ago, we brought up z/OSMF under z/OS 1.12. Applying
 service this weekend made it totally unusable. It turns out our
 configuration files have been wiped out!
...
 I'm not sure if this is what I would necessarily call 'progress', but
 it's definitely a brave new world out there. Beware!

Uh-oh - is that Barbara I hear charging in from stage calling out
I tried to warn you all ... ?

:-)

No it's not. We haven't installed it, anyway. But I am really NOT surprised,
given how I hear my colleagues complain about WAS deploys. I even went
through a 2 day seminar on deploying this stuff under zLinux, and then I
'got' why z/OSMF deploy is a two-stage process. I consider it too awkward,
anyway.

Given that I knew WAS back when it was called 'Component Broken' (by those
that heard about it - OS/390 R6 days), I am waiting for the day when they go
back to replacing the full product every time a single ptf needs to go in
(and when they ditch SMP/E :-) ). Now *THAT* will be fun for z/OS! NOT.

I do appreciate Eds warning, though, and will gleefully relate it to anyone
here who might have wanted to 'test' z/OSMF, despite my dire warnigns :-)

Barbara

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