Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:39:42 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: It does, but the closest you'll come to that is to put a flower box (why tombstone?) ... Possibly because ISPF often displays ABEND messages in that style. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
the closest you'll come to that is to put a flower box (why tombstone?) as comments preceding the SYSIN (using //* comments), or adding a dummy member Ah, so. Got it. Thanks so much for your help! David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:39:42 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: I hope this makes sense... It does, but the closest you'll come to that is to put a flower box (why tombstone?) as comments preceding the SYSIN (using //* comments), or adding a dummy member: ./ ADD NAME=$$DOC .any number of comments statements ./ ADD . your original SYSIN stream In JCL, I sometimes do: //COMMENTS DD * ... to avoid the lexical ugliness of JCL comments. It's a PITA to format and edit flower boxes. Every language should support: o Comments o No-Ops Why? Because ultimately some programmer will imagine a use for them, and want them. BTW, is there a comment construct in z/OS operator commands? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
BTW, is there a comment construct in z/OS operator commands? Yes, there is. Everything after a blank after the complete command. Eg: D U,,,DASD,ONLINE see what DASD is online The same is applicable for JES commands: $PQ,ALL wipe everything out - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:26:12 + Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :BTW, is there a comment construct in z/OS operator commands? :Yes, there is. Not always. :Everything after a blank after the complete command. Depending on what one calls a complete command. :Eg: :D U,,,DASD,ONLINE see what DASD is online :The same is applicable for JES commands: :$PQ,ALL wipe everything out F jobname,A B C D passes A B C D. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:26:12 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: BTW, is there a comment construct in z/OS operator commands? Yes, there is. Everything after a blank after the complete command. Ah, but now this devolves to the second question: Is there a No-Op, in case the operator wishes to enter a comment without issuing a command? I suppose some display command is almost sufficient. And, which will delight Shane but disappoints me, the comment is folded to upper case in the SYSLOG. (Interesting: the system accepts d t and display t, but not display time.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN? On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:26:12 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: BTW, is there a comment construct in z/OS operator commands? Yes, there is. Everything after a blank after the complete command. Ah, but now this devolves to the second question: Is there a No-Op, in case the operator wishes to enter a comment without issuing a command? I suppose some display command is almost sufficient. I use the l command to put something in the z/OS SYSLOG. L 'HELLO, WORLD!' And, which will delight Shane but disappoints me, the comment is folded to upper case in the SYSLOG. (Interesting: the system accepts d t and display t, but not display time.) -- gil -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
Anyone, I'm a newbie with IEBUPDTE, which I'm using to add members to a temporary PDS for use in a later job step. I checked the manual, but I can't seem to find a way to add comments/remarks to the IEBUPDTE SYSIN input. Is there a way to do that? Thanks so much. David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
David Eisenberg wrote: I checked the manual, but I can't seem to find a way to add comments/remarks to the IEBUPDTE SYSIN input. Is there a way to do that? Utility control cards adhere to the JCL/Assembler standard allowing comments on the control cards after the last operand, and with one or more separating spaces. If that's not enough room, you're out of luck. If you're updating to a temporary, why not include comments in the contents, appropriate to the language or other format you're updating? Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
Utility control cards adhere to the JCL/Assembler standard allowing comments on the control cards after the last operand, and with one or more separating spaces. If that's not enough room, you're out of luck. If you're updating to a temporary, why not include comments in the contents, appropriate to the language or other format you're updating? What I've created is a SYSIN dataset to IEBUPDTE which generates the individual SYSIN members for an ICETOOL job. I.e., one generated member contains the DFSORT SYMNAMES definitions, one member is contains the TOOLIN control cards, the other members are the individual control card members for the various statements in TOOLIN. I did it this way so that I can maintain all of the control cards for the entire ICETOOL job in a single dataset, rather than in separate members. The job begins by using IEBUPDTE to burst the dataset into temporary members, which are then referenced in the ICETOOL step. I was hoping that there would be a supported IEBUPDTE syntax to have an entire line devoted to a comment, rather than my being restricted to remarks appended to the ends of control statements. That way, I could put a tombstone at the top of the IEBUPDTE input dataset explaining what the ICETOOL job does. I hope this makes sense... David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Are comments possible in IEBUPDTE SYSIN?
David Eisenberg wrote: I was hoping that there would be a supported IEBUPDTE syntax to have an entire line devoted to a comment, rather than my being restricted to remarks appended to the ends of control statements. That way, I could put a tombstone at the top of the IEBUPDTE input dataset explaining what the ICETOOL job does. I hope this makes sense... It does, but the closest you'll come to that is to put a flower box (why tombstone?) as comments preceding the SYSIN (using //* comments), or adding a dummy member: ./ ADD NAME=$$DOC .any number of comments statements ./ ADD . your original SYSIN stream Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
