Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/09/2008
   at 12:21 AM, Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I'm proud of what I do and who I work for, unlike the people who don't
sign their email or use a non-company address to post to the list.

Sometimes people use personal e-mail for IBM-MAIN because company policy
requires it, or because they have multiple clients. I try to judge people
by what they post, not by what address they use.
 
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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-09 Thread Dave Salt
IMO, the announcement of a Beta Test version of a mainframe product is more 
relevant to the people on this list than many of the threads that get posted 
here. In addition, the subject line is very clear; if someone isn't interested 
in a 'Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO', all they have to do is 
delete the email without reading it and that's the end of it. Otherwise, they 
can open it and read a few details. I really don't see the harm.
 
Dave Salt 
 
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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-09 Thread Brian Westerman
And sometimes there is another less obvious reason, but in some cases, the
person is less honest about it.

In any case, I went back and read through my original post and I think that
in the future it probably makes more sense to do what was suggested and post
the link instead of the email, which does appear to be more on the marketing
end of things.

Brian  

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-09 Thread Dave Salt
Hi Brian,
 
The rollover image that's on the web site at 
http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm was created using Macromedia 
Captivate. There is no JavaScript or any form of programming involved. The only 
thing I don't like is that the image of the ISPF panel has to be clicked before 
the mouse rollover feature becomes active. Ideally, it would have been nice if 
the rollover feature activated automatically as soon as the mouse moved over 
the panel, i.e. without the user having to click the image first. But other 
than that, Macromedia Captivate does an excellent job of creating product demos 
and training courses and it's very easy to use. 
 
FYI: SimpList 2.0 will be released next month, at which time the rollover image 
and web site will be updated to reflect the new features.
 
HTH, Dave SaltSee the new SimpList(tm) rollover image 
at:http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htmDate: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 
22:41:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Beta TEST announcement of 
Version 3 of SyzAUTO To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU  Dave,  Not to change the 
subject, but can I ask you what you used to create the rollover image feature 
of the web link that you had under your signature?  Is it JavaScript or 
something else?  Brian  
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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-09 Thread Brian Westerman
That's kind of cool.

I use Firefox with Javascript turned off, (actually I have the NOScript
extension  turned on), and I was happy to see that I didn't have to enable
the site to see the show.  I'm going to see about trying to do that on our site.

Thanks,

Brian

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Zahir Hemini
Ted, this is basically what Brian uses this discussion group for, to
advertise his products and services.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  apologize if you have already received the email on this, but Syzygy is
 announcing our BETA testing of the next version of SyzAUTO.

 You should appologise for sending this e-mail at all!
 IBM-Main is a user discussion forum.
 Not a place to receive e-mail advertisements from software vendors.

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Thomas Kern
I took the original posting as a call for help. He needs assistance with
beta testing. I think that is an excellent use of this group and an
excellent attitude from a vendor.

/Tom Kern

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Brian Westerman
Zahir,

Maybe you should go back and look at the problems that I have helped people
with, or maybe look at the programs that I have on the CBT Tape, or talk to
one of the people at one of the sites that I have performed contracts at
before you decide that I am only using the site for marketing.

I spend on average of 2 hours per week (unpaid) on the phone with systems
programmers from many sites all over the world (calling on my company's toll
free number) helping them with problems that have nothing to do with any
contracts or products that Syzygy maintains, it's all for free and I'm happy
to do it.

Obviously, if someone is looking for a solution that we have developed, I'm
not going to disqualify that solution just because I work for the company. 
There are several hundred users of our products, and I don't need to do
marketing, it's not my job, but if there is a solution that we make that
will help someone, I'm sure going to bring it up.  It would be the same if
the solution were an IBM or a CA product, just because I work for a vendor
doesn't mean that I should keep it a secret.  

I'm proud of what I do and who I work for, unlike the people who don't sign
their email or use a non-company address to post to the list.

Brian

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Stephen Mednick
Brian,

you've got my vote, keep up the good work and just ignore these morons who are
fortunately in the minority.

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia 

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 Zahir,
 
 Maybe you should go back and look at the problems that I have 
 helped people with, or maybe look at the programs that I have 
 on the CBT Tape, or talk to one of the people at one of the 
 sites that I have performed contracts at before you decide 
 that I am only using the site for marketing.
 
 I spend on average of 2 hours per week (unpaid) on the phone 
 with systems programmers from many sites all over the world 
 (calling on my company's toll free number) helping them with 
 problems that have nothing to do with any contracts or 
 products that Syzygy maintains, it's all for free and I'm 
 happy to do it.
 
 Obviously, if someone is looking for a solution that we have 
 developed, I'm not going to disqualify that solution just 
 because I work for the company. 
 There are several hundred users of our products, and I don't 
 need to do marketing, it's not my job, but if there is a 
 solution that we make that will help someone, I'm sure going 
 to bring it up.  It would be the same if the solution were an 
 IBM or a CA product, just because I work for a vendor doesn't 
 mean that I should keep it a secret.  
 
 I'm proud of what I do and who I work for, unlike the people 
 who don't sign their email or use a non-company address to 
 post to the list.
 
 Brian
 

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/06/2008
   at 10:27 PM, Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I'll past the email below

It would be better to make a tombstone announcement with *NO* promotional
material and a link to your web site for details.
 
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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
unlike the people who don't sign their email or use a non-company address to 
post to the list.

Some companies have a policy against making public statements using corporate 
e-mail accounts.
Some people are also unemployed, so how can they use a corporate account?

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
you've got my vote, keep up the good work and just ignore these morons who are 
fortunately in the minority.

Because people have a different opinion than you does not make them morons.
Also, calling somebody a moron does not invalidate their opinion.

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
 apologize if you have already received the email on this, but Syzygy is 
 announcing our BETA testing of the next version of SyzAUTO.

You should appologise for sending this e-mail at all!
IBM-Main is a user discussion forum.
Not a place to receive e-mail advertisements from software vendors.

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Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-07 Thread Brian Westerman
Ted, 

I sent it because when we started the previous beta, I received more than 20
emails from people on the list that complained that they didn't know about
the beta in enough advance time and thus were not allowed to participate
because of the 150 site limit.

My apology was only because I felt that it was off topic from the normal
information on the list, and didn't want it to appear like a marketing effort.  

I'm very sorry if I have offended you in some way.

Brian

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Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-06 Thread Brian Westerman
I apologize if you have already received the email on this, but Syzygy is
announcing our BETA testing of the next version of SyzAUTO.

I'll past the email below for those that did not receive it, and I'm sorry
if the lines wrap:

***Beginning of email paste

Dear Syzygy software client,

Syzygy is proud to announce that a new BETA version of SyzAUTO, version 3
will soon be available.  As a result of a large number of customer requests,
an entirely new version of the industry's least expensive feature-rich
System Command and JOB Automation product, SyzAUTO, will soon be ready to
BETA test.  

We would like to offer you an invitation to participate in the upcoming beta
test of SyzAUTO.  This beta is limited to 150 sites, so if you are
interested and have the time to spare, please send a return email or contact
your site administrator so that we can add you to our beta testing team.

Many new features are being designed into the new version of SyzAUTO.  Some
of the new facilities in SyzAUTO have been added to give SyzAUTO some of the
same functionality that already exists in the SyzCmdZ system command
scripting product and the SyzSPOOL Jes output offload product.  Many clients
that license one or more of the Syzygy suite of products (SyzSPOOL, SyzCmdZ
and SyzAUTO), have requested that we make some of the features of those
products available to them internally from other products in the SYZ-suite,
and SyzAUTO is the first of the three SYZ-suite products to reflect those
changes.  The other products of the SYZ-suite will be entering Beta
testing shortly.  There are several interconnect capabilities that are being
designed for the SYZ-suite products as well, but they are not listed below.

This new version proposes to add the following new features over the current
V2.00.f version of the SyzAUTO product:

Internal commands are now supported with user defined command prefix (2
characters). 
New Job Scheduling capabilities, allows for tracking and final disposition
(condition codes) of JOBs submitted for execution by SyzAUTO.
Allow capability to EMAIL the results (Condition codes and MAX Condition
Code) of JOBs submitted by SyzAUTO. 
EMAIL JOB or task failure information where applicable. 
System startup and overrides can be specified in PARMLIB or another dataset. 
New ++STATUS Internal Command, allows user to display the status of the
product on the console. 
New ++STOP Internal Command, allows internal shutdown of product. 
New ++RESET Internal Command, allows the timer to be reset in case of
changes to commands PDS, (restart no longer necessary).
New ++PREFIX Internal Command, allows user customization of the default (++)
prefix. 
New ability to set prefix and submit multiple JOBs or commands at startup
along with the current initial command member. 
New ++SUBMIT Internal command to submit a JOB for execution without being
required to know the SyzAUTO jobstep (no more F A,JOBNAME required). 
New ++CMD Internal Command to execute another command member (or timed
member) without being required to know the SyzAUTO jobstep. 
New ++IF Internal commands allows for decision logic on whether a line is to
be executed: 
++IFSTARTED ; will only execute command following the ; if the
specified task  is currently in execution 
++IFSTOPPED ; will only execute command following the ; if the
specified task  is NOT running 
++IFLPAR ; will only execute command following the ; if 
SyzAUTO
is executing on a certain LPAR (or System ID) 
New ++LPAR Internal command, allows command to be sent to another LPAR in
the sysplex 
New ++REPLY Internal Command, preforms reply to any outstanding WTOR without
knowing the REPLYID in advance, only the MSGID or text (or portion of) the
message 
New ++WTO Internal command to issue message to the console or syslog 
New ++WTOH Internal command to issue a HIGHLIGHTED message to the console or
syslog. 
New USER operations manual in HTML and PDF format. 
Many more features are also under development including a ISPF/PDF based
interface to SyzAUTO. 

The BETA version manual is not yet available, but to download information on
the current gold version of SyzAUTO (2.0.f), please link to:
http://syzygyinc.net/Documents/SYZAUTO%20Product%20Manual%20V2-0-f.pdf

If you would like to participate in the Beta test project for this new 3.0b
version, please contact your project coordinator or reply back to this
email.  You must be registered with the SyzAUTO beta program by March 30,
2008 to participate. 

The current gold version of the SyzAUTO product (version z-2.00.f) will
continue to be fully supported until January 18, 2009 as previously announced.  

Regards,

Tony Alphonsio
Beta Testing Coordinator
Syzygy Incorporated


**End of email paste;

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Brian Westerman