Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
You can trawl SMF to see what attributes were assigned.

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> I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable
to
> confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been deleted.
> Sorry, I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by to my
> observation in general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field cause
the
> abend because the DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there were 56
> volumes in this particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?
> 
> --- On Thu, 11/11/10, Darth Keller  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Darth Keller 
> Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Received: Thursday, 11 November, 2010, 7:52 AM
> 
> 
> Looking at the 110 Reason code information, I question if your dataset was
> actually assign a dataclass allowing extended format.   The way I
> understand the 110, you exceeded the 4GB limit on 'standard' VSAM. You'll
> need to look at the SMS constructs actually being used for your dataset
> here.  You're not giving us enough information here for us to tell.
> 
> Take a close look at the ListCat information for the file which was
> defined & ensure that it actually was defined as extended format.  If it
> is, you should see "EXTENDED     EXT-ADDR " in the ListCat
> 
> dd keller
> 
> 
> 
> G'Day,
> 
> I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM
> extended dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP &
> DATACLASS) have been correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3)
> were empty and all seem okay.
> 
> IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
> VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
> RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
> IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
> RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110
> 
> Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
> DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
>              INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
>              SHR(2,3) -
>              REUSE -
>              RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
>              FREESPACE(15,20) -
>              VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
>              DATA -
>              (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
>              CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
>              CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
>              INDEX -
>              (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
>              CYLINDERS (97,4) -
>              CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
> I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for
> A24S11.  Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to
> having 6 VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
> /
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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread John H Kington
John,
You should run the define again and then look at the listcat output to look for 
the extended attribute that Darth asked about. You don't need to load data to 
get this information. I am not in a postion to experiment but you should have 
20 volumes (actual plus candidate) in the listcat output. You get the greater 
of volume count from the data class or the number of volumes in the define, not 
the sum of those two numbers.

Regards,
John

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Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable to 
confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been deleted.  Sorry, 
I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by to my observation in 
general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field cause the abend because the 
DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there were 56 volumes in this 
particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?

--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Darth Keller  wrote:


From: Darth Keller 
Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Thursday, 11 November, 2010, 7:52 AM


Looking at the 110 Reason code information, I question if your dataset was
actually assign a dataclass allowing extended format.   The way I
understand the 110, you exceeded the 4GB limit on 'standard' VSAM. You'll
need to look at the SMS constructs actually being used for your dataset
here.  You're not giving us enough information here for us to tell.

Take a close look at the ListCat information for the file which was
defined & ensure that it actually was defined as extended format.  If it
is, you should see "EXTENDED EXT-ADDR " in the ListCat

dd keller



G'Day,

I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM
extended dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP &
DATACLASS) have been correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3)
were empty and all seem okay.

IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110

Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
 INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
 SHR(2,3) -
 REUSE -
 RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
 FREESPACE(15,20) -
 VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
 DATA -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
 CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
 INDEX -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
 CYLINDERS (97,4) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for
A24S11.  Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to
having 6 VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
/



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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread Darth Keller
From:   John Dawes 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:   11/11/2010 11:26 AM
Subject:Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List 


Sorry, I'm at DR today - so I don't have the time or the manuals to look, 
but my thinking is that under certain circumstances & SMS attributes, 
multiple volumes could cause an allocation to be greater than 4GB's.  I 
really suspect that your dataset was being allocated as a standard VSAM 
dataset subject to the 4GB limit.   I'd re-allocate the dataset & take a 
look at the allocation messages & attributes assigned to it.


/

I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable 
to confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been 
deleted.  Sorry, I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by 
to my observation in general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field 
cause the abend because the DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there 
were 56 volumes in this particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?





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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-11 Thread John Dawes
I verified the DATACLAS construct.  The volume count is 20.  I am unable to 
confirm if the LISTCAT has a EXT-ADDR because the dsn has been deleted.  Sorry, 
I should have noted it before I made the post.  Going by to my observation in 
general, would coding the VOLSERS in the VOL field cause the abend because the 
DATACLASS has the volume count of 20 and there were 56 volumes in this 
particular STORAGE GROUP POOL?

--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Darth Keller  wrote:


From: Darth Keller 
Subject: Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Thursday, 11 November, 2010, 7:52 AM


Looking at the 110 Reason code information, I question if your dataset was 
actually assign a dataclass allowing extended format.   The way I 
understand the 110, you exceeded the 4GB limit on 'standard' VSAM. You'll 
need to look at the SMS constructs actually being used for your dataset 
here.  You're not giving us enough information here for us to tell.

Take a close look at the ListCat information for the file which was 
defined & ensure that it actually was defined as extended format.  If it 
is, you should see "EXTENDED     EXT-ADDR " in the ListCat

dd keller



G'Day,

I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM 
extended dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP & 
DATACLASS) have been correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3) 
were empty and all seem okay.

IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110

Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
             INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
             SHR(2,3) -
             REUSE -
             RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
             FREESPACE(15,20) -
             VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
             DATA -
             (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
             CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
             CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
             INDEX -
             (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
             CYLINDERS (97,4) -
             CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for 
A24S11.  Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to 
having 6 VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
/



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Re: IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-10 Thread Darth Keller
Looking at the 110 Reason code information, I question if your dataset was 
actually assign a dataclass allowing extended format.   The way I 
understand the 110, you exceeded the 4GB limit on 'standard' VSAM. You'll 
need to look at the SMS constructs actually being used for your dataset 
here.  You're not giving us enough information here for us to tell.

Take a close look at the ListCat information for the file which was 
defined & ensure that it actually was defined as extended format.  If it 
is, you should see "EXTENDED EXT-ADDR " in the ListCat

dd keller



G'Day,
 
I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM 
extended dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP & 
DATACLASS) have been correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3) 
were empty and all seem okay.
 
IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
 VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
 RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
 IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
 RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110
 
Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
 INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
 SHR(2,3) -
 REUSE -
 RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
 FREESPACE(15,20) -
 VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
 DATA -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
 CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
 INDEX -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
 CYLINDERS (97,4) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for 
A24S11.  Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to 
having 6 VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
/



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IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET

2010-11-10 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,
 
I encountered the following abend when attempting to define a VSAM extended 
dsn.  The SMS routines (STORAGE CLASS, STORAGE GROUP & DATACLASS) have been 
correctly defined.  I verified if the volumes(3390-3) were empty and all seem 
okay.
 
IGD17103I CATALOG ERROR WHILE DEFINING VSAM DATA SET
 VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP
 RETURN CODE IS 140 REASON CODE IS 110 IGG0CLEV
 IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEV PROCESSING
 RETURN CODE 140 REASON CODE 110
 
Below is the DEFINE CLUSTER:
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP) -
 INDEXED KEYS(64,0) -
 SHR(2,3) -
 REUSE -
 RECORDSIZE (64,4068) -
 FREESPACE(15,20) -
 VOLUME(A24S11,A24S12,A24S13,A24S14,A24S17,A24S19)) -
 DATA -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.DATA) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (16384) -
 CYLINDERS (3815,36)) -
 INDEX -
 (NAME(VSAMG1.Z56013.VVL000D.MASTER4.SNAP.INDEX) -
 CYLINDERS (97,4) -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE (4096))
I reran the job successfully after removing all the VOLSERS except for A24S11.  
Was it a fluke that it worked? Was the cause of the abend due to having 6 
VOLSERS coded in the VOLUME parm?
 
Thanks.




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Re: Catalog Error - Definiting non-vsam dataset

2010-02-01 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM


"Jacky Bright"  wrote in message
news:...
> Hi,
> 
> I am getting messages while defining non-vsam datasets :
> 
> IEC331I 020-000(2908001C),H2FAIPA3,UTIL0003,IGG0CLEG
> 
> IEC331I CATALOG.TEST01.USER
> 
> IEC331I FCIS.ZZZ.ON.CCISCHZZ.P7.D100130
> IEC332I PADD,NVSM,IDVR,CDVR,ACD1
> 
> IEC333I
L028(041),08,CATALOG.TEST01.USER,FCIS.ZZZ.ON.CCISCHZZ.P7.D100130
> 
> 
> 
> IGD17102I CATALOG ERROR IN DEFINING NONVSAM DATA SET
> FCIS.ZZZ.ON.DCISMAS1.CCISCHZZ.P7.D100130
> RETURN CODE IS 20 REASON CODE IS 0 IGG0CLEG
> IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEG PROCESSING
> RETURN CODE 20 REASON CODE 0
> THE MODULE THAT DETECTED THE ERROR IS IGDVTSCU
> SMS MODULE TRACE BACK - VTSCU VTSCT VTSCR SSIRT
> SYMPTOM RECORD CREATED, PROBLEM ID IS IGD03201
> 
> Any idea about this error ?
> 
> JAcky
> 

Your catalog is full.
See IDC3009I:
 : RETURN  CODE20
:  Explanation:There is insufficient space in the catalog to
perform the : requested update or addition.
:
 

 

Reason  CodeDescription

0   Explanation:The catalog
cannot be extended for one of
 the following reasons:

 

 ~   There is no more space on the volume on which
the 
 catalog resides

 

 ~   The maximum number of extents has been reached

 

 ~   The catalog has reached the 4GB limit

 

 ~   There is not enough contiguous space on the
volume
 (required when the catalog's secondary
allocation 
 is defined in tracks).


 

Programmer  Response:   Scratch unneeded
data sets from   
 the volume. Delete all unnecessary entries from the

 catalog. The catalog may need to be reallocated and

 rebuilt if these steps do not resolve the space

 shortage.

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Catalog Error - Definiting non-vsam dataset

2010-02-01 Thread Jacky Bright
Hi,

I am getting messages while defining non-vsam datasets :

IEC331I 020-000(2908001C),H2FAIPA3,UTIL0003,IGG0CLEG

IEC331I CATALOG.TEST01.USER

IEC331I FCIS.ZZZ.ON.CCISCHZZ.P7.D100130
IEC332I PADD,NVSM,IDVR,CDVR,ACD1

IEC333I L028(041),08,CATALOG.TEST01.USER,FCIS.ZZZ.ON.CCISCHZZ.P7.D100130



IGD17102I CATALOG ERROR IN DEFINING NONVSAM DATA SET
FCIS.ZZZ.ON.DCISMAS1.CCISCHZZ.P7.D100130
RETURN CODE IS 20 REASON CODE IS 0 IGG0CLEG
IGD306I UNEXPECTED ERROR DURING IGG0CLEG PROCESSING
RETURN CODE 20 REASON CODE 0
THE MODULE THAT DETECTED THE ERROR IS IGDVTSCU
SMS MODULE TRACE BACK - VTSCU VTSCT VTSCR SSIRT
SYMPTOM RECORD CREATED, PROBLEM ID IS IGD03201

Any idea about this error ?

JAcky

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
>Why don't you just zap the VTOC entry for this dataset to PS? The catalog
>structure is much simpler then and bypasses VVDS. You should be familiar
>with VTOP dump, zap and format-x DSCBs. Don't try it at home if you are
not
>familiar with it! If you have CA-Disk, you can use a utility to this for
>you.

There was no VTOC entry for the dataset on the volume.

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-25 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Why don't you just zap the VTOC entry for this dataset to PS? The catalog
structure is much simpler then and bypasses VVDS. You should be familiar
with VTOP dump, zap and format-x DSCBs. Don't try it at home if you are not
familiar with it! If you have CA-Disk, you can use a utility to this for
you.

ITschak


On 8/25/08, Brian Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've had good luck with IBM's unsupported VVDSFIX tool, to delete an
> otherwise un-delete-able data set.  The VVDSFIX tool's DELBCSR command did
> the trick for me.
>
> //*DELBCSR - DELETE BCS RECORD will erase a BCS record.**
> //*  The purpose of this command is to erase a catalog **
> //*  record that has a bad name such as a special  **
> //*  character imbedded within the name that IDCAMS thinks **
> //*  is bad and prevents the DELETE from working.  **
> //***
>
> Google VVDSFIX which shows the following link as the tool source:
>
> www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3S1000618
>
> Brian
>
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:15:42 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver wrote:
>
> >Well, I'd love to try the zap, but I don't have CatalogRecovery
> +.  Bummer.
> >Nothing else is working.
> >
> >Thanks for all the tips so far, I'll keep trying stuff and let you know
> >what becomes of this.
> >
> >Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer
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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
>I've had good luck with IBM's unsupported VVDSFIX tool, to delete an
>otherwise un-delete-able data set.  The VVDSFIX tool's DELBCSR command did

>the trick for me.

SHAZAM!  It worked.  Thanks!

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-25 Thread Brian Peterson
I've had good luck with IBM's unsupported VVDSFIX tool, to delete an 
otherwise un-delete-able data set.  The VVDSFIX tool's DELBCSR command did 
the trick for me.

//*DELBCSR - DELETE BCS RECORD will erase a BCS record.**
//*  The purpose of this command is to erase a catalog **
//*  record that has a bad name such as a special  **
//*  character imbedded within the name that IDCAMS thinks **
//*  is bad and prevents the DELETE from working.  **
//***

Google VVDSFIX which shows the following link as the tool source:

www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3S1000618 

Brian

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:15:42 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver wrote:

>Well, I'd love to try the zap, but I don't have CatalogRecovery +.  Bummer.
>Nothing else is working.
>
>Thanks for all the tips so far, I'll keep trying stuff and let you know
>what becomes of this.
>
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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
>4. For this one you need to leave the ver… as is.
>
>//SYSINDD *
> ZAP   BCS(USERCAT.NAME)  -
>   DELETE(KEY(DATASET.NAME)  -
>   VER(04,C'A'))
>

Well, I'd love to try the zap, but I don't have CatalogRecovery +.  Bummer.
Nothing else is working.

Thanks for all the tips so far, I'll keep trying stuff and let you know
what becomes of this.

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-25 Thread Staller, Allan
DELETE 'dataset name' nvr  FILE(DD1)

DD1 points to the correct UCAT

HTH,


So just to try renaming it to something...   Seems like everything I try
really wants the physical file there - which doesn't make sense since
I've
run into rouge catalog entries before and not had trouble cleaning them
up.
This one is being stubborn.

ALTER GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 -
  NEWNAME(GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.JUNK) -
  CAT(ISV.SICF.USERCAT.VSYSP35)
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 94 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLRN-8

8   Explanation: OBTAIN did not find requested format-1
DSCB on specified volume.




Programmer Response: Ensure that the correct volume is

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Arturo
Jeffrey, here are a few of the parameters that I have tried and have gotten 
the file deleted. Since, you didn’t post the commands that you’ve used. I 
figure that I send you what has worked for me in the pass. Hope this helps. 
Just review the parms in manual before using to make sure that we’ll work for 
you. 

1.

//DELNVR  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS  
//DD1  DD  VOL=SER=XX,UNIT=3390,DISP=OLD   
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*   
//SYSINDD   *  
  DELETE DATASET NAME   -  
  FILE(DD1)  - 
  NVR  
2.
 
 //DELNOSC  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
 //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*  
 //SYSINDD   * 
   DELETE   DATASET.NAME.MAR0707  -   
PURGE -
CAT(USERCAT.NAME)
   
3.

  //STEP13 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSIN DD * 
   DELETE  DATASET.NAME   NSCR  

4. For this one you need to leave the ver… as is. 

//SYSINDD *
 ZAP   BCS(USERCAT.NAME)  -
   DELETE(KEY(DATASET.NAME)  - 
   VER(04,C'A'))   
 

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
>Problem with the instruction set above - rename it to what?

So just to try renaming it to something...   Seems like everything I try
really wants the physical file there - which doesn't make sense since I've
run into rouge catalog entries before and not had trouble cleaning them up.
This one is being stubborn.

ALTER GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 -
  NEWNAME(GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.JUNK) -
  CAT(ISV.SICF.USERCAT.VSYSP35)
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 94 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLRN-8

8   Explanation: OBTAIN did not find requested format-1
DSCB on specified volume.

Programmer Response: Ensure that the correct volume is
mounted

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
> How can you PURGE a non-existant dataset?

Tried it both ways.  I get the same result without the PURGE.

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
>Had to go to 1.9 manual to find 90-54. Does this make any sense to you?
>
>| 54  Explanation: DELETE failed because the data set is
>   being renamed but it has not completed.
>
> | Programmer Response: Rename the data set with the
> | IDCAMS ALTER command and then delete it.

Sort of.  The name tells me that this file is probably left over from a
simple process we have which automates the reallocation of files.  People
use it to expand/change the allocation.  File is temp copied to the file in
question, original file is deleted and reallocated, temp copy is copied
back and then (suppose to be) deleted.

Problem with the instruction set above - rename it to what?

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Linda Mooney
DSN looks like it could be an HSM level 1 migrate.  Is it?  Perhaps there is a 
recovery action needed for a failed migrate from HSM?

Linda Mooney

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> Had to go to 1.9 manual to find 90-54. Does this make any sense to you? 
> 
> | 54 Explanation: DELETE failed because the data set is 
> being renamed but it has not completed. 
> 
> | Programmer Response: Rename the data set with the 
> | IDCAMS ALTER command and then delete it. 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver 
> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:22 PM 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 
> > Subject: Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset 
> > 
> > >Have you tried delete noscratch. 
> > 
> > Yep. Got this... 
> > 
> > IDCAMS SYSTEM SERVICES TIME: 15 
> > 
> > DELETE - 
> > GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 - 
> > PURGE - 
> > NOSCRATCH 
> > IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR 
> > IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 90 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFO-54 
> > IDC0551I ** ENTRY GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 NOT 
> > IDC0551I DELETED 
> > IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8 
> > 
> > IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 8 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Had to go to 1.9 manual to find 90-54. Does this make any sense to you?

| 54  Explanation: DELETE failed because the data set is
   being renamed but it has not completed.

 | Programmer Response: Rename the data set with the
 | IDCAMS ALTER command and then delete it.



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> Subject: Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset
> 
> >Have you tried delete noscratch.
> 
> Yep.  Got this...
> 
> IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES   TIME: 15
> 
>DELETE -
>GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 -
>PURGE          -
>NOSCRATCH
> IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
> IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 90 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFO-54
> IDC0551I ** ENTRY GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 NOT
> IDC0551I DELETED
> IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8
> 
> IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 8
> 
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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
How can you PURGE a non-existant dataset?



From: Jeffrey Deaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 8/22/2008 4:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset



>Have you tried delete noscratch.

Yep.  Got this...

IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES   TIME: 15

   DELETE -
   GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 -
   PURGE  -
   NOSCRATCH
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 90 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFO-54
IDC0551I ** ENTRY GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 NOT
IDC0551I DELETED
IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8

IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 8


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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
>Have you tried delete noscratch.

Yep.  Got this...

IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES   TIME: 15

   DELETE -
   GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 -
   PURGE  -
   NOSCRATCH
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 90 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFO-54
IDC0551I ** ENTRY GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 NOT
IDC0551I DELETED
IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8

IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 8


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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Did you try:
Idcams
Delete dataset.name NSCR



From: Jeffrey Deaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset



I can't delete a dataset which is cataloged, but no longer physically
exists.  I've tried every trick I can think of to delete the catalog entry,
nothing is working.  Ideas?   Ran a Diag on the catalog, got this...

IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:
  ICFCAT ENTRY: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 (A)
  RECORD: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 /00
  OFFSET: X'0063'
  REASON: 51 - VVDS ENTRY NOT FOUND. SCAN VVDS FAILED.
IDC21365I ICFCAT RECORD DISPLAY:
  RECORD: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 /00
00  007D004D C101 2DC7D9D6 E4D74BD7   C3D3C1C9 D4E24BD3 D6C14BE3
D1D1F4F9   *.'.(AGROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49*
20  D4C9C74B C4F2F0F0 F2F2F6F2 4BE3F1F4   F3F9F2F5 F519 2607
D7D9C9D4   *MIG.D2002262.T1439255...PRIM*
40  C1D9E800 08E2 E3C1D5C4 C1D9C400   1401  0890
243F   *ARYSTANDARD.*
60  0C00 1A0480D7 D9D2F0F0 F1301020   0F880001  0020 00
*...PRK001   *

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Re: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Don Holstein
Have you tried delete noscratch. 

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Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

I can't delete a dataset which is cataloged, but no longer physically
exists.  I've tried every trick I can think of to delete the catalog
entry,
nothing is working.  Ideas?   Ran a Diag on the catalog, got this...

IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:
  ICFCAT ENTRY: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 (A)
  RECORD: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 /00
  OFFSET: X'0063'
  REASON: 51 - VVDS ENTRY NOT FOUND. SCAN VVDS FAILED.
IDC21365I ICFCAT RECORD DISPLAY:
  RECORD: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 /00
00  007D004D C101 2DC7D9D6 E4D74BD7   C3D3C1C9 D4E24BD3 D6C14BE3
D1D1F4F9   *.'.(AGROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49*
20  D4C9C74B C4F2F0F0 F2F2F6F2 4BE3F1F4   F3F9F2F5 F519 2607
D7D9C9D4   *MIG.D2002262.T1439255...PRIM*
40  C1D9E800 08E2 E3C1D5C4 C1D9C400   1401  0890
243F   *ARYSTANDARD.*
60  0C00 1A0480D7 D9D2F0F0 F1301020   0F880001  0020
00
*...PRK001   *

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Catalog Error - Can't delete dataset

2008-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I can't delete a dataset which is cataloged, but no longer physically
exists.  I've tried every trick I can think of to delete the catalog entry,
nothing is working.  Ideas?   Ran a Diag on the catalog, got this...

IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:
  ICFCAT ENTRY: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 (A)
  RECORD: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 /00
  OFFSET: X'0063'
  REASON: 51 - VVDS ENTRY NOT FOUND. SCAN VVDS FAILED.
IDC21365I ICFCAT RECORD DISPLAY:
  RECORD: GROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49MIG.D2002262.T1439255 /00
00  007D004D C101 2DC7D9D6 E4D74BD7   C3D3C1C9 D4E24BD3 D6C14BE3
D1D1F4F9   *.'.(AGROUP.PCLAIMS.LOA.TJJ49*
20  D4C9C74B C4F2F0F0 F2F2F6F2 4BE3F1F4   F3F9F2F5 F519 2607
D7D9C9D4   *MIG.D2002262.T1439255...PRIM*
40  C1D9E800 08E2 E3C1D5C4 C1D9C400   1401  0890
243F   *ARYSTANDARD.*
60  0C00 1A0480D7 D9D2F0F0 F1301020   0F880001  0020 00
*...PRK001   *

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>The reason I used the LOCK to prevent updates to this CATALOG because it is 
>shared.

That's not the purpose of LOCK.
It's for recovery/operational purposes, IIRC.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread esmie moo
Thanks to all.  I removed the LOCK and it worked.  The reason I used the LOCK 
to prevent updates to this CATALOG because it is shared.

Larry Crilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  RETURN CODE 186 

Explanation: Error attempting to lock a catalog or access a locked 
catalog. 

2 Explanation: Access was denied for one of the
following reasons:

° No profile IGG.CATLOCK of class type FACILITY was
found

° RACF, or an equivalent product, was not active

° No MVS router exit was found




Why the LOCK parm on the define?




LOCK
specifies that the catalog identified by entryname is to be
defined with the lock attribute on. Defining the catalog with the lock on
restricts catalog access to authorized personnel. Specification of this
parameter requires read authority to the profile name, IGG.CATLOCK, with
class type FACILITY. Integrated catalog facility catalogs are normally
defined with the lock attribute on only after a DELETE RECOVERY during
catalog recovery operations.


You need READ authority for IGG.CATLOCK.



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Good Day Gentle Readers,

I am trying to define a user catalog and I am unsuccessful. The error
message (please see below) points to a Security problem. I checked with
Security and they say that it is not a Security issue. Could anybody tell
me where I can look?
DEFINE - 
USERCATALOG - 
(NAME (SYS1.PROD.UCAT) - 
CYL(5,2) - 
VOLUME(UCAT01) - 
ICFCATALOG - 
STRNO(3) - 
FREESPACE(20 20) - 
NOIMBED - 
LOCK - 
SHAREOPTIONS(3 4)) - 
DATA( - 
CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096)) 
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR 
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 186 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFT-2 
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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread Larry Crilley
RETURN CODE 186

 Explanation: Error attempting to lock a catalog or access a locked 
 catalog.   

2   Explanation: Access was denied for one of the
   following reasons:

   °   No profile IGG.CATLOCK of class type FACILITY was
   found

   °   RACF, or an equivalent product, was not active

   °   No MVS router exit was found




Why the LOCK parm on the define?




LOCK
   specifies that the catalog identified by entryname is to be
defined with the lock attribute on.  Defining the catalog with the lock on
restricts catalog access to authorized personnel. Specification of this
parameter requires read authority to the profile name, IGG.CATLOCK, with
class type FACILITY.  Integrated catalog facility catalogs are normally
defined with the lock attribute on only after a DELETE RECOVERY during
catalog recovery operations.


You need READ authority for IGG.CATLOCK.


 
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Good Day Gentle Readers,
   
  I am trying to define a user catalog and I am unsuccessful.  The error
message (please see below) points to a Security problem.  I checked with
Security and they say that it is not a Security issue.  Could anybody tell
me where I can look?
  DEFINE-  
USERCATALOG   -  
(NAME (SYS1.PROD.UCAT) -   
CYL(5,2)  -  
VOLUME(UCAT01)-  
ICFCATALOG-  
STRNO(3)  -  
FREESPACE(20 20)  -  
NOIMBED   -  
LOCK  -  
SHAREOPTIONS(3 4))-  
DATA( -  
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096))  
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR   
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 186 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFT-2  
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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread McKown, John
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of esmie moo
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:26 AM
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> Subject: CATALOG ERROR
> 
> Good Day Gentle Readers,
>
>   I am trying to define a user catalog and I am unsuccessful. 
>  The error message (please see below) points to a Security 
> problem.  I checked with Security and they say that it is not 
> a Security issue.  Could anybody tell me where I can look?
>   DEFINE- 
> USERCATALOG   -   
> (NAME (SYS1.PROD.UCAT) -  
> CYL(5,2)  -   
> VOLUME(UCAT01)-   
> ICFCATALOG-   
> STRNO(3)  -   
> FREESPACE(20 20)  -   
> NOIMBED   -   
> LOCK  -   
> SHAREOPTIONS(3 4))-   
> DATA( -   
>  CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096))   
>
> IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
>
> IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 186 - REASON CODE IS 
> IGG0CLFT-2  
> IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

It might work if you remove the LOCK parameter in the above DEFINE.
or you must have READ authority to the IGG.CATLOCK profile in the
FACILITY class in RACF.


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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread Rob Scott
You have a locked catalog - you did check the messages and codes manuals for 
IDC3009I, right?


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Subject: CATALOG ERROR

Good Day Gentle Readers,

  I am trying to define a user catalog and I am unsuccessful.  The error 
message (please see below) points to a Security problem.  I checked with 
Security and they say that it is not a Security issue.  Could anybody tell me 
where I can look?
  DEFINE-
USERCATALOG   -
(NAME (SYS1.PROD.UCAT) -
CYL(5,2)  -
VOLUME(UCAT01)-
ICFCATALOG-
STRNO(3)  -
FREESPACE(20 20)  -
NOIMBED   -
LOCK  -
SHAREOPTIONS(3 4))-
DATA( -
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096))
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 186 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFT-2 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12



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CATALOG ERROR

2007-12-04 Thread esmie moo
Good Day Gentle Readers,
   
  I am trying to define a user catalog and I am unsuccessful.  The error 
message (please see below) points to a Security problem.  I checked with 
Security and they say that it is not a Security issue.  Could anybody tell me 
where I can look?
  DEFINE-  
USERCATALOG   -  
(NAME (SYS1.PROD.UCAT) -   
CYL(5,2)  -  
VOLUME(UCAT01)-  
ICFCATALOG-  
STRNO(3)  -  
FREESPACE(20 20)  -  
NOIMBED   -  
LOCK  -  
SHAREOPTIONS(3 4))-  
DATA( -  
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096))  
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR   
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 186 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFT-2  
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12   


   
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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-18 Thread esmie moo
John I checked and the dsn is not there.  I will check with IBM for assistance.
   
  Thanks for your help.  Thanks to all who offered their suggestions and help.

John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Esmie,
I recommend you check the dasd volume(s) to make sure the dataset
that you deleted using noscratch is not still there.
I am out of ideas. If no one else figures it out, you could search ibmlink
or open a problem with IBM for assistance.
Sorry,
John

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-17 Thread John Kington
Esmie,
I recommend you check the dasd volume(s) to make sure the dataset
that you deleted using noscratch is not still there.
I am out of ideas. If no one else figures it out, you could search ibmlink
or open a problem with IBM for assistance.
Sorry,
John
esmie moo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The dsn is created on dasd and SMS managed.  I checked the disk
> status and it is always online.  The job creates the dsn in the SMS
> pool which has 23 dasds in that storage pool.
>
> John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Keeping with top
posting:
> Esmie,
> Do you recall whether the oldest generation was on dasd or tape? The
> scratch error
> indicates that it was dasd and the volume was not online. Maybe you
> reclaimed a
> dasd volume or have a dasd volume offline?
> Regards,
> John
>
> >Thanks John. Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present. I then
> scratched the entry (del noscr). But I >cannot understand why this
> happened. I checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any
> type of a >problem. Any other suggestions?
>
>>My job put out the
>> following error:
>>
>>IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
>>IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
>>IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
>>IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
>>IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
>>I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
>>the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
>>a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
>>suggestions?
>>

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Esmie,
 
  If I were you, I would open an ETR with IBM. At this point you are being 
pulled in several directions by well meaning persons on this list. The 
inability to catalog a new generation of a GDG has nothing to do with whether a 
dataset has been migrated or not. Check with IBM. They wrote the code that 
produced the message. 




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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-17 Thread esmie moo
Reynalodo,
   
  The management class is NOMIGRATE.  The user didn't want the dsns migrated 
because he views them daily to compile reports.  Also, a new gdg is created 
daily.

reynaldo nobre muntoreanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Esmie

If the dataset is under control of DFSMSHSM, check the values for the
attributes GDS defined in MGMTCLAS.
Verify itself trials involved without the duty permission exist RACF, of
access update upon I cataloguing.

RMUNTOR


2007/1/16, esmie moo :
>
> Thanks John. Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present. I then
> scratched the entry (del noscr). But I cannot understand why this
> happened. I checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any
> type of a problem. Any other suggestions?
>
> John Kington wrote: >My job put out the
> following error:
>
> IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
> IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
> IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
> IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
> IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
> I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
> the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
> a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
> suggestions?
> >
> Esmie,
> It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you
> could
> roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
> verify that the volume where it resides is online.
>
> Regards,
> John
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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-17 Thread esmie moo
The dsn is created on dasd and SMS managed.  I checked the disk status and it 
is always online.  The job creates the dsn in the SMS pool which has 23 dasds 
in that storage pool.  

John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Keeping with top posting:
Esmie,
Do you recall whether the oldest generation was on dasd or tape? The
scratch error
indicates that it was dasd and the volume was not online. Maybe you
reclaimed a
dasd volume or have a dasd volume offline?
Regards,
John

>Thanks John. Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present. I then
scratched the entry (del noscr). But I >cannot understand why this
happened. I checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any
type of a >problem. Any other suggestions?

>>John Kington wrote: >My job put out the
following error:

>>IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
>>IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
>>IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
>>IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
>>IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
>>I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
>>the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
>>a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>Esmie,
>It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you
could
>roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
>verify that the volume where it resides is online.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-17 Thread esmie moo
John,
   
  I did a listcat of the GDG base and it has a limit of 40 with SCRATCH and 
NOEMPTY parms.

John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >Do you have noscratch specified in the GDG define? It should be scratch to
have the oldest gdg automatically roll off to allow the next generation to
be catalogued.

The listcat should look as follows:

ATTRIBUTES
LIMIT-10 SCRATCH NOEMPTY

David,
He must have had scratch in the GDG or the job would not have had a
problem cataloging the new GDS. I do not have DFHSM so I don't
know how management class attributes work in this situation.
Regards,
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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-17 Thread esmie moo
The index limit is built for 40.  I checked the production run from the past 2 
days and everything seems to be in order.  I am still stumped as to what had 
happened.  

"O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  No, if noscratch 
was specified and the gdg wrapped around then the dataset would not be able to 
roll in.

Esmie, how many catalog entries exist under the base gdg name? Just do a 3.4 
display under ispf. 



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>Do you have noscratch specified in the GDG define? It should be scratch to
have the oldest gdg automatically roll off to allow the next generation to
be catalogued.

The listcat should look as follows:

ATTRIBUTES
LIMIT-10 SCRATCH NOEMPTY

David,
He must have had scratch in the GDG or the job would not have had a
problem cataloging the new GDS. I do not have DFHSM so I don't
know how management class attributes work in this situation.
Regards,
John

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread Colin Beveridge

Tom Marchant wrote:

The oldest GDS will roll off regardless of SCRATCH.  If neither
SCRATCH nor EMPTY is specified, the oldest GDS will be in rolled-out
status and will no longer be part of the GDG.  In the pre-SMS days
it would have been uncataloged but not scratched.  That said, I
agree with David that *the GDG should be defined with SCRATCH.
*
  
This seems to be one of those weird SMS scenarios that crop up from time 
to time; either you spend "days" trying to work out exactly what caused 
the problem or you correct the problem by normal means and assume that 
this was an unforeseen situation caused when X and Y happened at the 
same time that SMS or HSM was doing Z.


NOSCRATCH might be useful if you easily need to process a GDG after the 
limit on the rolled-in GDSes has been exceeded following a failure where 
you are processing data that arrives at +1.


Also there is a limit in the number of GDS names that can exist:

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1II07276

and peculiar effects can be observed if you have "holes" in your GDS 
numbers. This is how we discovered that our SMS settings for GDGs and/or 
GDSes were wrong.


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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
No, if noscratch was specified and the gdg wrapped around then the dataset 
would not be able to roll in.
 
Esmie, how many catalog entries exist under the base gdg name? Just do a 3.4 
display under ispf. 



From: John Kington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 1/16/2007 8:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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>Do you have noscratch specified in the GDG define? It should be scratch to
have the oldest gdg automatically roll off to allow the next generation to
be catalogued.

The listcat should look as follows:

ATTRIBUTES
  LIMIT-10 SCRATCH  NOEMPTY

David,
He must have had scratch in the GDG or the job would not have had a
problem cataloging the new GDS. I do not have DFHSM so I don't
know how management class attributes work in this situation.
Regards,
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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread John Kington
>Do you have noscratch specified in the GDG define? It should be scratch to
have the oldest gdg automatically roll off to allow the next generation to
be catalogued.

The listcat should look as follows:

ATTRIBUTES
  LIMIT-10 SCRATCH  NOEMPTY

David,
He must have had scratch in the GDG or the job would not have had a
problem cataloging the new GDS. I do not have DFHSM so I don't
know how management class attributes work in this situation.
Regards,
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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Tom, I mis-spoke.
 
Dave



From: Tom Marchant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 1/16/2007 8:19 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CATALOG ERROR



On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:37:25 -0500, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:
>
>Do you have noscratch specified in the GDG define? It should be
>scratch to have the oldest gdg automatically roll off to allow the
>next generation to be catalogued.
>

The oldest GDS will roll off regardless of SCRATCH.  If neither
SCRATCH nor EMPTY is specified, the oldest GDS will be in rolled-out
status and will no longer be part of the GDG.  In the pre-SMS days
it would have been uncataloged but not scratched.  That said, I
agree with David that the GDG should be defined with SCRATCH.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread John Kington
Keeping with top posting:
Esmie,
Do you recall whether the oldest generation was on dasd or tape? The
scratch error
indicates that it was dasd and the volume was not online. Maybe you
reclaimed a
dasd volume or have a dasd volume offline?
Regards,
John

>Thanks John.  Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present.  I then
scratched the entry (del noscr).  But I >cannot understand why this
happened.  I checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any
type of a >problem.  Any other suggestions?

>>John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  >My job put out the
following error:

>>IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
>>IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
>>IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
>>IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
>>IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
>>I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
>>the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
>>a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>Esmie,
>It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you
could
>roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
>verify that the volume where it resides is online.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:37:25 -0500, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:
> 
>Do you have noscratch specified in the GDG define? It should be
>scratch to have the oldest gdg automatically roll off to allow the
>next generation to be catalogued.
> 

The oldest GDS will roll off regardless of SCRATCH.  If neither
SCRATCH nor EMPTY is specified, the oldest GDS will be in rolled-out
status and will no longer be part of the GDG.  In the pre-SMS days
it would have been uncataloged but not scratched.  That said, I
agree with David that the GDG should be defined with SCRATCH.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread reynaldo nobre muntoreanu

Esmie

If the dataset is under control of DFSMSHSM, check the values for the
attributes GDS defined in MGMTCLAS.
Verify itself trials involved without the duty permission exist RACF, of
access update upon I cataloguing.

RMUNTOR


2007/1/16, esmie moo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Thanks John.  Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present.  I then
scratched the entry (del noscr).  But I cannot understand why this
happened.  I checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any
type of a problem.  Any other suggestions?

John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  >My job put out the
following error:

IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
suggestions?
>
Esmie,
It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you
could
roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
verify that the volume where it resides is online.

Regards,
John

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
If your gdg is sms managed then the management class should be specified as 
follows:
 
GDG Management Attributes   
  # GDG Elements on Primary : 6  or any number to avoid undue recalls   
  Rolled-off GDS Action . . : EXPIRE



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Thanks John.  Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present.  I then 
scratched the entry (del noscr).  But I cannot understand why this happened.  I 
checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any type of a problem. 
 Any other suggestions?

John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  >My job put out the following error:

IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
suggestions?
>
Esmie,
It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you could
roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
verify that the volume where it resides is online.

Regards,
John

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Esmie,
 
Do you have noscratch specified in the GDG define? It should be scratch to have 
the oldest gdg automatically roll off to allow the next generation to be 
catalogued.
 
The listcat should look as follows:
 
ATTRIBUTES  
  LIMIT-10 SCRATCH  NOEMPTY



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Thanks John.  Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present.  I then 
scratched the entry (del noscr).  But I cannot understand why this happened.  I 
checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any type of a problem. 
 Any other suggestions?

John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  >My job put out the following error:

IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
suggestions?
>
Esmie,
It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you could
roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
verify that the volume where it resides is online.

Regards,
John

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-16 Thread esmie moo
Thanks John.  Yes, I noticed that the catalog entry was present.  I then 
scratched the entry (del noscr).  But I cannot understand why this happened.  I 
checked the syslog but found nothing that would indicate any type of a problem. 
 Any other suggestions?

John Kington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  >My job put out the following error:

IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00 RETAINED, D
I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
the catalog) but no errors were found catalog. The job creates a gdg with
a limit of 40 generations. I am not sure why this error occurred. Any
suggestions?
>
Esmie,
It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you could
roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
verify that the volume where it resides is online.

Regards,
John

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Re: CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-15 Thread John Kington
>My job put out the following error:

   IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0
 IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00
 IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
 IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE
 IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00RETAINED,  D
I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with
the catalog) but no errors were found catalog.  The job creates a gdg with
a limit of 40 generations.  I am not sure why this error occurred.  Any
suggestions?
>
Esmie,
It looks like you failed to scratch the oldest generation so that you could
roll the new generation into the GDG. Check the oldest generation and
verify that the volume where it resides is online.

Regards,
John

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CATALOG ERROR

2007-01-15 Thread esmie moo
My job put out the following error:
   
   IEC331I 042-006(04280039),JS3BATCH,SOFVMA05,SCRT,IGG0CLH0 
 IEC331I VOL,INST49,NAME,DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0553V00 
 IEC331I 050-092(0484,INST49),SOFVMA05,XTRACT,VALO,IGG0CLE3
 IGD07001I GDG ROLL IN ERROR - RETURN CODE 50 REASON CODE 0 MODULE 
 IGD104I DATAALL.REND.PC5.PROD.VMAXTD.G0593V00RETAINED,  D 
I ran a diagnose on the volume (compared catalog with vvds and vvds with the 
catalog) but no errors were found catalog.  The job creates a gdg with a limit 
of 40 generations.  I am not sure why this error occurred.  Any suggestions?
   
  Thanks in advance.
   


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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
I took a look at a few here and they are small than my CYL(5,1) and I
know we have at least Mod-27s. 

DR is a consideration about size. Does your DR service provider support
them?? 

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Now there's a timely question!

>>For the record, I have used CYL(5,1) for the last 15 years. I may need
>>to consider upping that for Mod-27s and -54s. What are others using
>>these days on the large volumes? 

We're going through a bid process for new DASD right now.  We'll be
moving 
from 3 Sun V2X's to a single box.  I have a boss who I've argued with, 
cajoled, and just generally lambasted for 5 years or so trying to wean
him 
away from mod-3's.  While I've gotten him to allow me mod-9's in limited

application, it's been a struggle.  But now with the new box coming in, 
something has happened and all of a sudden he's talking -27's and -54's 
with PAV's and such! 

So I'm also wondering what other's are using on the larger volumes and 
what kinds of gotcha's might be waiting for me. 
  
  
  
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>For the record, I am no spring chicken either.  I have hit the 50+ age 
>bracket, needless to say not only the gray cells are graying.

The only people in IT, that I work with, that are even close to my age, are the 
mainframers.

I'm old enough to be the father of the IT people responsible for the toys.
In a lot of cases, I'm older than their fathers.

When in doubt.
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I can live with that (vvds in extents).  It is a user test volume.

I do not have exclusive ownership of that canine.
But, I would have one canned job that inits all general storage volumes the 
same.
Putting all the VTOC, VTOCIX, VVDS (and CATALOGUE if it exists) at the front 
with a standard size based on the size of the volume.
I would not make a distinction based on prod/test.
I may based on system, spool, page, database, etc.
But, as we dumb down the sysprog and the storage admin, I would leave less and 
less decisions out there to make.

Also, I have seen system volumes re-claimed to use as user volumes and watch 
batch croak due to a single track VTOC.

At the cost of DASD, these days, I would init even system volumes with them all.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Bruce Black
So with the default of TRK(10,10), the VVDS goes into secondary extents 
on a volume with a lot of VSAM (the volume size is irrelevant, only the 
numer of clusters).  The VVDS can go to 123 extents, and there is no 
problem if it does so.  There is no performance hit or other problems.  
So the default is fine unless you expect a HUGE number of very small 
clusters.


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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Darth Keller
Now there's a timely question!

>>For the record, I have used CYL(5,1) for the last 15 years. I may need
>>to consider upping that for Mod-27s and -54s. What are others using
>>these days on the large volumes? 

We're going through a bid process for new DASD right now.  We'll be moving 
from 3 Sun V2X's to a single box.  I have a boss who I've argued with, 
cajoled, and just generally lambasted for 5 years or so trying to wean him 
away from mod-3's.  While I've gotten him to allow me mod-9's in limited 
application, it's been a struggle.  But now with the new box coming in, 
something has happened and all of a sudden he's talking -27's and -54's 
with PAV's and such! 

So I'm also wondering what other's are using on the larger volumes and 
what kinds of gotcha's might be waiting for me.
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
For the record, I have used CYL(5,1) for the last 15 years. I may need
to consider upping that for Mod-27s and -54s. What are others using
these days on the large volumes? 

Willie, the CONVERTV suggestion was a good one if you can't find a
period of light allocation activity.


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David,
   
  I can live with that (vvds in extents).  It is a user test volume.
   
  I will have to examine the process of allocating a vvds in the same
job as the initialize of the volume.  This would save a lot of
headaches. 
  
  
  
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
Tom,

Okay, my misinterpretation of what you said. No apologies necessary,
except from me for my bad attempt at humor. Maybe there is a good reason
why I typed that response and then went to a Toastmasters meeting as a
first-time guest. I absolutely need to work on my communications skills!
:-) 

By the way, for those interested, the Toastmasters club looks like a
winner for anyone looking to improve how they come across to others. I
like to talk so it shouldn't be a huge stretch for me!  But then
again, they get to rag, er "evaluate" you and your speech. Sounds like
fun!

And in closing, yes, Willie needs to read more...as we all do.

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Sorry, Bob...  I meant to say that Willie needs to RTFB and consider
all data sets.  I know you were trying to help.  The book goes into
considerable detail about how to figure space requirements. 
  
  
  
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:04:01 -0700, willie bunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>I am not sure what RTFB.  However, how do I go about doing it...

Read the  book.  Some people use RTFM (Manual).

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:01:06 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>It's been so long since it was (4 4). I don't even remember when the
>>default changed.  I want to say that it's about the time SMS first
>>became available.
>
>
>I never saw the update, but even (10 10) is too small on larger volumes.

Maybe.  How much space do your biggest VVDSes use?

Tom Marchant

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
I am not sure what RTFB.  However, how do I go about doing it...

"Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Well, xxxcccuuussseee me, Tom! 
:-)

You are right of course. I would RTFB except that I am not allowed to
play "storage administrator" anymore. I was just trying to be helpful to
Willie. When my memory fades a little more on storage management issues,
I'll stop answering those questions and leave to you young-uns to
answer! 

Bob Richards 


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Snippage

Stop thinking only of VSAM!

On an SMS managed volume, ALL data sets have an entry in the VVDS.

The default allocation is 10 tracks primary and 10 tracks secondary.

You need to RTFB in Managing catalogs. A KSDS needs 530 bytes.
Non-VSAM needs 100 bytes. If you have SMS volumes that are used
for similar data sets, you might be able to get an idea by looking
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
To answer Bob, thanks for being very helpful.  For the record, I am no spring 
chicken either.  I have hit the 50+ age bracket, needless to say not only the 
gray cells are graying.
   
  Thanks again.

Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sorry, Bob... I meant to say that Willie needs to RTFB and consider
all data sets. I know you were trying to help. The book goes into
considerable detail about how to figure space requirements.

Tom Marchant

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:49:02 -0400, Richards.Bob 
wrote:

>Well, xxxcccuuussseee me, Tom! :-)
>
>You are right of course. I would RTFB except that I am not allowed to
>play "storage administrator" anymore. I was just trying to be helpful to
>Willie. When my memory fades a little more on storage management issues,
>I'll stop answering those questions and leave to you young-uns to
>answer!
>
>Bob Richards
>
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>Subject: Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS
>
>Snippage
>
>Stop thinking only of VSAM!
>
>On an SMS managed volume, ALL data sets have an entry in the VVDS.
>
>The default allocation is 10 tracks primary and 10 tracks secondary.
>
>You need to RTFB in Managing catalogs. A KSDS needs 530 bytes.
>Non-VSAM needs 100 bytes. If you have SMS volumes that are used
>for similar data sets, you might be able to get an idea by looking
>at their VVDSes.
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>It's been so long since it was (4 4). I don't even remember when the default 
>changed.  I want to say that it's about the time SMS first became available.


I never saw the update, but even (10 10) is too small on larger volumes.


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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
David,
   
  I can live with that (vvds in extents).  It is a user test volume.
   
  I will have to examine the process of allocating a vvds in the same job as 
the initialize of the volume.  This would save a lot of headaches.
   
  Thanks for the reassurance and advice from all.

"O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Willie,

CI size for the VVDS is 4096. For 10 trks that computes to 120 CIs in the VVDS.

For a SMS managed volume each file will require the following # of bytes:

KSDS 530
ESDS 370
Linear 340
Non-VSAM 100

I suspect you're not going to have a problem. Worst case your VVDS goes into 
extents.




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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
Sorry, Bob...  I meant to say that Willie needs to RTFB and consider
all data sets.  I know you were trying to help.  The book goes into
considerable detail about how to figure space requirements.

Tom Marchant

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:49:02 -0400, Richards.Bob 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Well, xxxcccuuussseee me, Tom! :-)
>
>You are right of course. I would RTFB except that I am not allowed to
>play "storage administrator" anymore. I was just trying to be helpful to
>Willie. When my memory fades a little more on storage management issues,
>I'll stop answering those questions and leave to you young-uns to
>answer!
>
>Bob Richards
>
>
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>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Tom Marchant
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:43 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS
>
>Snippage
>
>Stop thinking only of VSAM!
>
>On an SMS managed volume, ALL data sets have an entry in the VVDS.
>
>The default allocation is 10 tracks primary and 10 tracks secondary.
>
>You need to RTFB in Managing catalogs.  A KSDS needs 530 bytes.
>Non-VSAM needs 100 bytes.  If you have SMS volumes that are used
>for similar data sets, you might be able to get an idea by looking
>at their VVDSes.
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Willie,
 
CI size for the VVDS is 4096. For 10 trks that computes to 120 CIs in the VVDS.
 
For a SMS managed volume each file will require the following # of bytes:
 
KSDS 530
ESDS 370
Linear  340
Non-VSAM  100
 
I suspect you're not going to have a problem. Worst case your VVDS goes into 
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
Well, xxxcccuuussseee me, Tom! :-)

You are right of course. I would RTFB except that I am not allowed to
play "storage administrator" anymore. I was just trying to be helpful to
Willie. When my memory fades a little more on storage management issues,
I'll stop answering those questions and leave to you young-uns to
answer! 

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Snippage

Stop thinking only of VSAM!

On an SMS managed volume, ALL data sets have an entry in the VVDS.

The default allocation is 10 tracks primary and 10 tracks secondary.

You need to RTFB in Managing catalogs.  A KSDS needs 530 bytes.
Non-VSAM needs 100 bytes.  If you have SMS volumes that are used
for similar data sets, you might be able to get an idea by looking
at their VVDSes. 
  
  
  
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:13:55 -0700, willie bunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>The user is not sure.  I checked and the VVDS is at 10 trks (default?).  
How many VSAMS dsns can this accomodate?
>
>"Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Willie,
>
>DO NOT DELETE THAT VVDS unless you can empty that volume!
>
>Besides, how many VSAM datasets do you plan to allocate there that the
>defaults are not enough?

Stop thinking only of VSAM!

On an SMS managed volume, ALL data sets have an entry in the VVDS.

The default allocation is 10 tracks primary and 10 tracks secondary.

You need to RTFB in Managing catalogs.  A KSDS needs 530 bytes.
Non-VSAM needs 100 bytes.  If you have SMS volumes that are used
for similar data sets, you might be able to get an idea by looking
at their VVDSes.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
You still could be fine. 

But, what the heck, if it were me, I'd probably just put up another
volume the way I wanted it to be and move all datasets off the one with
the small VVDS (and re-init the first volume). Yes, I can be anal at
times.  I suppose an ounce of problem prevention is easier than a
pound of problem resolution.

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Bad news it is.  It is a 3390-9.

"Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Not sure I know the
answer to that, but unless this volume is larger
than a 3390-3, you are probably fine.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
Bad news it is.  It is a 3390-9.

"Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Not sure I know the answer to that, 
but unless this volume is larger
than a 3390-3, you are probably fine.

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The user is not sure. I checked and the VVDS is at 10 trks (default?).
How many VSAMS dsns can this accomodate?

"Richards.Bob" wrote: Willie,

DO NOT DELETE THAT VVDS unless you can empty that volume! 

Besides, how many VSAM datasets do you plan to allocate there that the
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
Not sure I know the answer to that, but unless this volume is larger
than a 3390-3, you are probably fine.

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The user is not sure.  I checked and the VVDS is at 10 trks (default?).
How many VSAMS dsns can this accomodate?

"Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Willie,

DO NOT DELETE THAT VVDS unless you can empty that volume! 

Besides, how many VSAM datasets do you plan to allocate there that the
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
The user is not sure.  I checked and the VVDS is at 10 trks (default?).  How 
many VSAMS dsns can this accomodate?

"Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Willie,

DO NOT DELETE THAT VVDS unless you can empty that volume! 

Besides, how many VSAM datasets do you plan to allocate there that the
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Since the VVDS entry is there can I expand it? Or do I have to delete
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
Willie,

DO NOT DELETE THAT VVDS unless you can empty that volume! 

Besides, how many VSAM datasets do you plan to allocate there that the
defaults are not enough? 

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Since the VVDS entry is there can I expand it?  Or do I have to delete
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
Since the VVDS entry is there can I expand it?  Or do I have to delete it and 
retry the allocation?

Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:12:15 +, 
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>
>The equivalent of SPACE=(TRK,(4,4)) is used.

Ancient history!

Tracks(10 10)

It's been so long since it was (4 4). I don't even remember when the
default changed. I want to say that it's about the time SMS first
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:12:15 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The equivalent of SPACE=(TRK,(4,4)) is used.

Ancient history!

Tracks(10 10)

It's been so long since it was (4 4). I don't even remember when the
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Greg Shirey
According to the z/OS V1R7.0 Managing Catalogs manual:
"Explicitly defining a VVDS is usually appropriate when you are initializing
a new volume. If you are not running SMS, and a volume already contains some
non-VSAM data sets, it is appropriate to allow the VVDS to be defined
implicitly with the default space allocation of TRACKS(10 10)."

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>Yes, the first time a data set gets placed on an SMS-managed volume, a VVDS
will be created if one does not already exist.  (This is true whether the
data set is VSAM or not.) 

The equivalent of SPACE=(TRK,(4,4)) is used.
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>You can change it with F CATALOG,VVDSSPACE(pri,sec). This must be done at 
>every IPL of the system. If not, it goes back to the default.

That's why I prefer it to be part of initialising DASD.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Habres, Richard (GTI)
You can INIT the volume without the STORAGEGROUP option, Define the
VVDS, CONVERTV the volume. This takes no time at all to do. 

If you are Z/OS 1.7 you can change the default VVDS space. F
CATALOG,REPORT will show you what VVDS SPACE is set at. You can change
it with F CATALOG,VVDSSPACE(pri,sec). This must be done at every IPL of
the system. If not, it goes back to the default. 

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Initialize the volume, vary it online, define the VVDS, and then add it
to the SMS configuration.  If it has not been added to an SMS storage
group, SMS will not try to allocate a data set on it.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Yes, the first time a data set gets placed on an SMS-managed volume, a VVDS 
>will be created if one does not already exist.  (This is true whether the
data set is VSAM or not.) 

The equivalent of SPACE=(TRK,(4,4)) is used.
This doesn't get you much on large packs.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Friske, Michael
Initialize the volume, vary it online, define the VVDS, and then add it
to the SMS configuration.  If it has not been added to an SMS storage
group, SMS will not try to allocate a data set on it.



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Good Day,
   
  I encountered the following error while I was attempting to define the
VVDS on a 3390-9 disk which is SMS managed:
   
  IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR

IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLE3-8 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 

  I checked the error code and it points out to the fact that "a VVDS
already exists on the volume"
   
  I am not sure how that can happen because I initialized the volume
(ICKDSF) and put it online and attempted to define the VVDS.  Can it be
because as soon as I put the volume online a VSAM file may have been
allocated on that volume?  If so, how can I avoid this problem in the
future.  
   
  Here is my init job
   
  INIT -
 UNITADDRESS(BC50)
 VOLID(PAS904) -  
 VTOC(0,1,149) -  
 VERIFY(SPAC50) - 
 INDEX(10,0,45) - 
 STORAGEGROUP

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:19:35 -0400, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Yes.  On an SMS volume if there is no VVDS and SMS wishes to put a dsn on
>the volume (that is empty...) SMS will put a VVDS on the volume for you -
>albeit  a tiny VVDS 

Tiny?  It's been quite a while since I was doing dasd management, but
I always preferred to let the VVDS default.  I always thought the
10 track primary and secondary was plenty.

In any case, as of z/OS 1.7, you can override the default space
allocation for the VVDS.

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Greg Shirey
Yes, the first time a data set gets placed on an SMS-managed volume, a VVDS
will be created if one does not already exist.  (This is true whether the
data set is VSAM or not.) 

Regards,
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Could the problem have been caused because a VSAM dsn was allocated on that
volume as soon as I put it ONLINE?


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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Dave

Yes.  On an SMS volume if there is no VVDS and SMS wishes to put a dsn on
the volume (that is empty...) SMS will put a VVDS on the volume for you -
albeit  a tiny VVDS 

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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
Could the problem have been caused because a VSAM dsn was allocated on that 
volume as soon as I put it ONLINE?

"Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Oops, I forgot. I do this in REXX 
and issue a Vary online from within
that code and then do the define VVDS. You may want to bring the volume
online at a period of low activity.

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Add the DEFINE of the VVDS as the 2nd step of your INIT jcl.

Bob Richards 





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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
Oops, I forgot. I do this in REXX and issue a Vary online from within
that code and then do the define VVDS. You may want to bring the volume
online at a period of low activity.

Bob Richards 



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Add the DEFINE of the VVDS as the 2nd step of your INIT jcl.

Bob Richards 



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Subject: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

Good Day,
   
  I encountered the following error while I was attempting to define the
VVDS on a 3390-9 disk which is SMS managed:
   
  IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR

IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLE3-8 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 

  I checked the error code and it points out to the fact that "a VVDS
already exists on the volume"
   
  I am not sure how that can happen because I initialized the volume
(ICKDSF) and put it online and attempted to define the VVDS.  Can it be
because as soon as I put the volume online a VSAM file may have been
allocated on that volume?  If so, how can I avoid this problem in the
future.  
   
  Here is my init job
   
  INIT -
 UNITADDRESS(BC50)
 VOLID(PAS904) -  
 VTOC(0,1,149) -  
 VERIFY(SPAC50) - 
 INDEX(10,0,45) - 
 STORAGEGROUP 
  
  
  
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Re: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread Richards.Bob
Add the DEFINE of the VVDS as the 2nd step of your INIT jcl.

Bob Richards 



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:14 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

Good Day,
   
  I encountered the following error while I was attempting to define the
VVDS on a 3390-9 disk which is SMS managed:
   
  IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR

IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLE3-8 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 

  I checked the error code and it points out to the fact that "a VVDS
already exists on the volume"
   
  I am not sure how that can happen because I initialized the volume
(ICKDSF) and put it online and attempted to define the VVDS.  Can it be
because as soon as I put the volume online a VSAM file may have been
allocated on that volume?  If so, how can I avoid this problem in the
future.  
   
  Here is my init job
   
  INIT -
 UNITADDRESS(BC50)
 VOLID(PAS904) -  
 VTOC(0,1,149) -  
 VERIFY(SPAC50) - 
 INDEX(10,0,45) - 
 STORAGEGROUP 
  
  
  
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CATALOG ERROR - Defining VVDS

2006-09-18 Thread willie bunter
Good Day,
   
  I encountered the following error while I was attempting to define the VVDS 
on a 3390-9 disk which is SMS managed:
   
  IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR 
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLE3-8 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 

  I checked the error code and it points out to the fact that "a VVDS already 
exists on the volume"
   
  I am not sure how that can happen because I initialized the volume (ICKDSF) 
and put it online and attempted to define the VVDS.  Can it be because as soon 
as I put the volume online a VSAM file may have been allocated on that volume?  
If so, how can I avoid this problem in the future.  
   
  Here is my init job
   
  INIT -
 UNITADDRESS(BC50)
 VOLID(PAS904) -  
 VTOC(0,1,149) -  
 VERIFY(SPAC50) - 
 INDEX(10,0,45) - 
 STORAGEGROUP 

   
  Thanks.

   


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