Re: COMMSERV using CTC CNCs

2006-08-10 Thread Gabe Torres
Pat,
Yes, the new links are allocated by XCF (Pathin/Pathout) and COMMSERV
(CTC;s). I did a dynamic PATHIN/PATHOUT add for the Sysplex links. Will
need to update PARMLIB to make them permanent.
It just seems I need to tap COMMSERV on the shoulder to use the new
links..but not sure how.  I can not bounce COMMSERV because its
production. .. And of course, no test time before we go live.  

Mentioned in another response to Listserv.. We are a combination of
SUBAREA and APPN. 
Thanks,
gabe 

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That means PATHIN / PATHOUT defs in a COUPLE member? 


Assuming you've picked addresses for VTAM that are actually under the
same CU as your XCF links (not just conveniently close addresses) there
is no reason it should not work.  Does a D U,.. show the device addrs
online?  Allocated to VTAM? 

Of course there is an easier technique if your VTAMs are APPN nodes.
Set XCFINIT=YES in VTAM and the VTAM s will automatically set up cross-
domain connections using the XCF signalling that already exists.  Such
things are MUCH easier if you migrate from subarea to APPN.  Very
different, but easier.

Pat O'Keefe

 

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Re: COMMSERV using CTC CNCs

2006-08-10 Thread Gabe Torres
Yes, the new links are allocated by XCF (Pathin/Pathout) and COMMSERV
(CTC;s).
It just seems I need to tap COMMSERV on the shoulder to use the new
links..but not sure how.  I can not bounce COMMSERV because its
production. .. And of course, no test time before we go live.  

Mentioned in another response to Listserv.. We are a combination of
SUBAREA and APPN. 
Thanks,
gabe 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: COMMSERV using CTC CNCs

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:42:21 -0700, Gabe Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>...
> To prepare for the new configuration, I defined a new set of CTC/CNC's

>definitions without the Director involved, but keeping the old 
>definitions inplace.  I then disable (INACT)  the old CTC/CNC links, 
>and activate the new CTC/CNC links on both the Lpars I want 
>communicating with each other.  I am able to get the Sysplex to use 
>these new signaling links,.

That means PATHIN / PATHOUT defs in a COUPLE member? 

>... But I can not get COMMSERV to use them for the Cross Domain 
>communication.
>...

Assuming you've picked addresses for VTAM that are actually under the
same CU as your XCF links (not just conveniently close addresses) there
is no reason it should not work.  Does a D U,.. show the device addrs
online?  Allocated to VTAM? 

I use the same technique.  Find XCF links that already work; then take 
some unused addresses under those CUs and give them to VTAM.   I use
MPC+
rather than standard CTC defs, but that's not significant. 

Of course there is an easier technique if your VTAMs are APPN nodes.
Set XCFINIT=YES in VTAM and the VTAM s will automatically set up cross-
domain connections using the XCF signalling that already exists.  Such
things are MUCH easier if you migrate from subarea to APPN.  Very
different, but easier.

Pat O'Keefe

 

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Re: COMMSERV using CTC CNCs

2006-08-09 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Gabe Torres wrote:
 


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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:42 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ESTAE control block chain. (from assembler-list)

Hello List,
 
 We are dropping our Escon Directors from our mainframe configuration.  
We have CTC/CNCs using an Escon Director to communicate between

COMMSERV's on two  Lpars on a single processor.   We will be moving to
CTC/CNC's without an Escon Director.  Our Sysplex also uses these for
PATHIN and PATHOUT signaling links between the Lpars. 


 To prepare for the new configuration, I defined a new set of CTC/CNC's
definitions without the Director involved, but keeping the old
definitions inplace.  I then disable (INACT)  the old CTC/CNC links, and
activate the new CTC/CNC links on both the Lpars I want communicating
with each other.  I am able to get the Sysplex to use these new
signaling links,. But I can not get COMMSERV to use them for the Cross
Domain communication.  


A display of the new links show they are active and available:

D NET,E,ID=CTCXP2
IST097I DISPLAY ACCEPTED
IST075I NAME = CTCXP2, TYPE = CA MAJOR NODE 100 IST486I STATUS= ACTIV,
DESIRED STATE= ACTIV IST654I I/O TRACE = OFF, BUFFER TRACE = OFF IST170I
LINES:
IST232I CTC9214L ACTIVE   CUA = 9214
IST232I CTC9215L ACTIVE   CUA = 9215
IST232I CTC8224L ACTIVE   CUA = 8224
IST232I CTC8225L ACTIVE   CUA = 8225

How do I get COMMSERV to use the new links ?  What am I missing ?

TIA,. ..any help is appreciated,
Gabe 



Do you have paths coded?

Are you setup for SA or APPN, or both?

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Re: COMMSERV using CTC CNCs

2006-08-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:42:21 -0700, Gabe Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
> To prepare for the new configuration, I defined a new set of CTC/CNC's
>definitions without the Director involved, but keeping the old
>definitions inplace.  I then disable (INACT)  the old CTC/CNC links, and
>activate the new CTC/CNC links on both the Lpars I want communicating
>with each other.  I am able to get the Sysplex to use these new
>signaling links,. 

That means PATHIN / PATHOUT defs in a COUPLE member? 

>... But I can not get COMMSERV to use them for the Cross
>Domain communication.
>...

Assuming you've picked addresses for VTAM that are actually under the 
same CU as your XCF links (not just conveniently close addresses) there 
is no reason it should not work.  Does a D U,.. show the device addrs
online?  Allocated to VTAM? 

I use the same technique.  Find XCF links that already work; then take 
some unused addresses under those CUs and give them to VTAM.   I use MPC+
rather than standard CTC defs, but that's not significant. 

Of course there is an easier technique if your VTAMs are APPN nodes.
Set XCFINIT=YES in VTAM and the VTAM s will automatically set up cross-
domain connections using the XCF signalling that already exists.  Such
things are MUCH easier if you migrate from subarea to APPN.  Very 
different, but easier.

Pat O'Keefe

 

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COMMSERV using CTC CNCs

2006-08-09 Thread Gabe Torres
 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gabe Torres
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:42 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ESTAE control block chain. (from assembler-list)

Hello List,
 
 We are dropping our Escon Directors from our mainframe configuration.  
We have CTC/CNCs using an Escon Director to communicate between
COMMSERV's on two  Lpars on a single processor.   We will be moving to
CTC/CNC's without an Escon Director.  Our Sysplex also uses these for
PATHIN and PATHOUT signaling links between the Lpars. 

 To prepare for the new configuration, I defined a new set of CTC/CNC's
definitions without the Director involved, but keeping the old
definitions inplace.  I then disable (INACT)  the old CTC/CNC links, and
activate the new CTC/CNC links on both the Lpars I want communicating
with each other.  I am able to get the Sysplex to use these new
signaling links,. But I can not get COMMSERV to use them for the Cross
Domain communication.  

A display of the new links show they are active and available:

D NET,E,ID=CTCXP2
IST097I DISPLAY ACCEPTED
IST075I NAME = CTCXP2, TYPE = CA MAJOR NODE 100 IST486I STATUS= ACTIV,
DESIRED STATE= ACTIV IST654I I/O TRACE = OFF, BUFFER TRACE = OFF IST170I
LINES:
IST232I CTC9214L ACTIVE   CUA = 9214
IST232I CTC9215L ACTIVE   CUA = 9215
IST232I CTC8224L ACTIVE   CUA = 8224
IST232I CTC8225L ACTIVE   CUA = 8225

How do I get COMMSERV to use the new links ?  What am I missing ?

TIA,. ..any help is appreciated,
Gabe 

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