Cloning USS files

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Myers
All:
 
How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What I am 
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories) from one 
HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
 
The HFS file containing the desired directories is mounted as root on one file 
system, which is the downlevel system from which I am migrating. I want to 
carve out a copy of selected directories and files from it and put them into an 
HFS file that will be mounted and used on the uplevel system.
 
What are the steps I need to do to accomplish this?
 
Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Greenville, NC

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-17 Thread McKown, John
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Myers
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:38 PM
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> Subject: Cloning USS files
> 
> All:
>  
> How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across 
> LPARs? What I am trying to do is to copy part (one directory 
> and all sub-directories) from one HFS file on one LPAR into 
> an HFS file on another LPAR. 
>  
> The HFS file containing the desired directories is mounted as 
> root on one file system, which is the downlevel system from 
> which I am migrating. I want to carve out a copy of selected 
> directories and files from it and put them into an HFS file 
> that will be mounted and used on the uplevel system.
>  
> What are the steps I need to do to accomplish this?
>  
> Mike Myers

When I had to do this, I used pax to create an archive of the files that
I needed. I then ftp'ed the archive file to the new system and used pax
to "unwind" the archive.

1) create a sequential file that is big enough to contain the archive

2) cd to the starting subdirectory

3) pax -osaveext -wvf "//'sequential.dataset'" .

4) ftp 'sequential.dataset' to the new system (if not on shared DASD)

5) logon to the new system to a UNIX shell (TSO OMVS will work)

6) cd to the receiving subdirectory

7) pax -pex -rvf "//'sequential.dataset'"

There are other ways to do this, but the above is the simpliest
conceptually. It is the UNIX equivalent of doing a DFDSS or FDR dump of
the files and then restoring the dump on the new system.

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Myers
John:
 
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
 
Mike


>>> "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/17/2008 9:16 AM >>>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Cloning USS files
> 
> All:
>  
> How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across 
> LPARs? What I am trying to do is to copy part (one directory 
> and all sub-directories) from one HFS file on one LPAR into 
> an HFS file on another LPAR. 
>  
> The HFS file containing the desired directories is mounted as 
> root on one file system, which is the downlevel system from 
> which I am migrating. I want to carve out a copy of selected 
> directories and files from it and put them into an HFS file 
> that will be mounted and used on the uplevel system.
>  
> What are the steps I need to do to accomplish this?
>  
> Mike Myers

When I had to do this, I used pax to create an archive of the files that
I needed. I then ftp'ed the archive file to the new system and used pax
to "unwind" the archive.

1) create a sequential file that is big enough to contain the archive

2) cd to the starting subdirectory

3) pax -osaveext -wvf "//'sequential.dataset'" .

4) ftp 'sequential.dataset' to the new system (if not on shared DASD)

5) logon to the new system to a UNIX shell (TSO OMVS will work)

6) cd to the receiving subdirectory

7) pax -pex -rvf "//'sequential.dataset'"

There are other ways to do this, but the above is the simpliest
conceptually. It is the UNIX equivalent of doing a DFDSS or FDR dump of
the files and then restoring the dump on the new system.

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-17 Thread Roger Lowe
snip..
> 
>How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories) from
one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
> ...snip

Mike,
   You could create your new HFS and mount it temporarily on the
downlevel system and then use 'copytree' to copy your selected
directory/sub-directories.

You should be able to get a copy of 'copytree' from the IBM UNIX Tools &
Toys website but if you can't find it, contact me offline

Hope this helps

Roger

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-17 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Mike

Do the LPARS share the same catalog for the HFS files ?, if so you can
create a new HFS file mount it and use the Unix cp command to copy the
files across "cp -R /current /new/hfs/mount/point", once the copy has
completed unmount the new hfs file.
Go to the other lpar mount your new hfs and copy out whatever
files/directories you need.

If the lpars do not share a catalog, we use ADRDSSU to dump the file and
the use ADRDSSU on the other lpar to restore the hfs with a new name,
then mount it and you can copy out what you need.

Regards
Gerard Ceruti 
may the 'z' be with you

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snip..
> 
>How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What
I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories)
from
one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
> ...snip

Mike,
   You could create your new HFS and mount it temporarily on the
downlevel system and then use 'copytree' to copy your selected
directory/sub-directories.

You should be able to get a copy of 'copytree' from the IBM UNIX Tools
&
Toys website but if you can't find it, contact me offline

Hope this helps

Roger

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Jousma, David
 
Mike,

No one asked, so I am.  Just out of curiosity, what are you manually
copying around out of your root filesystem?  Just don't want to see you
shoot yourself in the foot

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> 
>How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What 
>I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories)
from one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
> ...snip


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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Myers
Dave:
 
Thanks for asking. There are several directories and files that are associated 
with the major application in use here. For whatever reason, they seem to be 
contained in the HFS data set that is mounted as root on the system I am 
migrating from. I would like to get these directories and files into a separate 
HFS data set, to simplify future migration. 
 
I am migrating from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 now and anticipate migrating to z/OS 1.9 as 
soon as possible afterwards. 
 
Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Greenville, NC
 
>>> "Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2008 7:48 AM >>>

Mike,

No one asked, so I am.  Just out of curiosity, what are you manually
copying around out of your root filesystem?  Just don't want to see you
shoot yourself in the foot

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> 
>How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What 
>I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories)
from one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
> ...snip


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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Jousma, David
Since you are going to this effort to move it, why not use the
opportunity to create a separate HFS/ZFS for this application, mount it
at the desired location, and then put your contents into it?  Then you
NEVER have to revisit this situation again, and you get to keep your
root FS *clean*

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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Cloning USS files

Dave:
 
Thanks for asking. There are several directories and files that are
associated with the major application in use here. For whatever reason,
they seem to be contained in the HFS data set that is mounted as root on
the system I am migrating from. I would like to get these directories
and files into a separate HFS data set, to simplify future migration. 
 
I am migrating from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 now and anticipate migrating to z/OS
1.9 as soon as possible afterwards. 
 
Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Greenville, NC
 
>>> "Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2008 7:48 AM >>>

Mike,

No one asked, so I am.  Just out of curiosity, what are you manually
copying around out of your root filesystem?  Just don't want to see you
shoot yourself in the foot

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> 
>How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What 
>I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories)
from one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
> ...snip


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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Jack Kelly

There are several directories and files that are associated with the major 
application in use here.


This is the spot to copy/mount these files/directories to their own HFS 
and then mount that HFS to their mountpoint, as R/O, to the other LPARs

Jack Kelly
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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Myers
Jack:
 
Right. That's what I want to do. Why they wound up where they are in the first 
place is beyond me, but the guy(s) who set this system up in the first place 
are long gone and I'm here to try and make things right.
 
Mike

>>> "Jack Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2008 10:22 AM >>>

There are several directories and files that are associated with the major 
application in use here.


This is the spot to copy/mount these files/directories to their own HFS 
and then mount that HFS to their mountpoint, as R/O, to the other LPARs

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Myers
Dave:
 
My intention exactly. I just needed a few suggestions to find a way to do that, 
being not a strong Unix guy.
 
Mike

>>> "Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2008 10:23 AM >>>
Since you are going to this effort to move it, why not use the
opportunity to create a separate HFS/ZFS for this application, mount it
at the desired location, and then put your contents into it?  Then you
NEVER have to revisit this situation again, and you get to keep your
root FS *clean*

Dave 


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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Cloning USS files

Dave:

Thanks for asking. There are several directories and files that are
associated with the major application in use here. For whatever reason,
they seem to be contained in the HFS data set that is mounted as root on
the system I am migrating from. I would like to get these directories
and files into a separate HFS data set, to simplify future migration. 

I am migrating from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 now and anticipate migrating to z/OS
1.9 as soon as possible afterwards. 

Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Greenville, NC

>>> "Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2008 7:48 AM >>>

Mike,

No one asked, so I am.  Just out of curiosity, what are you manually
copying around out of your root filesystem?  Just don't want to see you
shoot yourself in the foot

___

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Assistant Vice President
Mainframe Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
616.653.8429

> 
>How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What 
>I am
trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories)
from one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 
> ...snip


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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Steve Comstock

Mike Myers wrote:

Dave:
 
My intention exactly. I just needed a few suggestions to find a way to do that, being not a strong Unix guy.
 
Mike


First, you might get a little more insight if you asked over
on the mvs-oe list.

Second, I've been porting Apache to z/OS recently, and here's
what I did to reserve space for the Apache files:

1. submit a job to allocate the HFS:

   //ZFSAPACH JOB ,'ZFS ALLOCATE',NOTIFY=&SYSUID,
   // USER=IBMUSER,PASSWORD=1CIRCUS1,
   // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
   //  SET JOBID=ZFSAPACH
   //*
   //*  This job defines and formats a ZFS data set to hold the
   //*   Apache server from IBM
   //*
   //* IOEAGFMT is documented in SC24-5989
   //*   Distributed File Service ZFS Administration
   //*
   //*
   //DEFINE   EXEC   PGM=IDCAMS
   //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
   //DASD0DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=HFSTUF
   //SYSINDD *
DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(APACHE.ZFS) -
   VOLUMES(HFSTUF) -
   LINEAR CYL(600 40) SHAREOPTIONS(3))
   /*
   //CREATE   EXEC   PGM=IOEAGFMT,REGION=0M,
   // PARM=('-aggregate APACHE.ZFS -compat')
   //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
   //STDOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
   //STDERR   DD SYSOUT=*
   //CEEDUMP  DD SYSOUT=*
   //*

2. In my PARMLIB member BPXPRMBB (you will probably use a
   different member name), include these lines:

   MOUNTFILESYSTEM('APACHE.ZFS')
TYPE(ZFS)
MODE(RDWR)
MOUNTPOINT('/usr/lpp/zApache')

   [this is to ensure the system is mounted at ipl time in the future]

3. Under omvs, issue these commands:

su
cd /usr/lpp
mkdir zApache
/usr/sbin/mount -t zfs -f APACHE.ZFS /usr/lpp/zApache

At this point you have a place to move your files to, using
pax or tar or copytree or whatever mechanism you prefer.

HTH.



"Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2008 10:23 AM >>>

Since you are going to this effort to move it, why not use the
opportunity to create a separate HFS/ZFS for this application, mount it
at the desired location, and then put your contents into it?  Then you
NEVER have to revisit this situation again, and you get to keep your
root FS *clean*

Dave 



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Myers
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:13 AM
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Subject: Re: Cloning USS files


Dave:

Thanks for asking. There are several directories and files that are
associated with the major application in use here. For whatever reason,
they seem to be contained in the HFS data set that is mounted as root on
the system I am migrating from. I would like to get these directories
and files into a separate HFS data set, to simplify future migration. 


I am migrating from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 now and anticipate migrating to z/OS
1.9 as soon as possible afterwards. 


Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Greenville, NC


"Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2008 7:48 AM >>>


Mike,

No one asked, so I am.  Just out of curiosity, what are you manually
copying around out of your root filesystem?  Just don't want to see you
shoot yourself in the foot

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How do I go about cloning part of a HFS file system across LPARs? What 
I am

trying to do is to copy part (one directory and all sub-directories)
from one HFS file on one LPAR into an HFS file on another LPAR. 

...snip



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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:41:38 -0600, Steve Comstock
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>Second, I've been porting Apache to z/OS recently, and here's
>what I did to reserve space for the Apache files:
>

>
>3. Under omvs, issue these commands:
>
> su
> cd /usr/lpp
> mkdir zApache



Most sane shops would need to do this to a maintenance root mounted
at a service mount point, clone, and re-IPL since the root is usually
mounted read only and may be shared in a non-sysplex aware file
system environment.  Even in a shared file system environment the
sysres root should be mounted read only.

Example:
su
cd /service/usr/lpp
mkdir zApache

I realize in your sandbox (P390, flex?) this probably isn't a concern.

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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Steve Comstock

Mark Zelden wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:41:38 -0600, Steve Comstock
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Second, I've been porting Apache to z/OS recently, and here's
what I did to reserve space for the Apache files:




3. Under omvs, issue these commands:

su
cd /usr/lpp
mkdir zApache




Most sane shops 

   
Ah, there's the rub! :-)


would need to do this to a maintenance root mounted

at a service mount point, clone, and re-IPL since the root is usually
mounted read only and may be shared in a non-sysplex aware file
system environment.  Even in a shared file system environment the
sysres root should be mounted read only.

Example:
su
cd /service/usr/lpp
mkdir zApache

I realize in your sandbox (P390, flex?) this probably isn't a concern.


Right, flex-es on a Thinkpad. But thanks for pointing this out.



Mark
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Re: Cloning USS files

2008-06-18 Thread Jack Kelly

There are several directories and files that are associated with the major 

application in use here.


Mike:

You probably already know but before you change the mount point to this 
new HFS, you should clean up the directory in the root or you'll simply 
lose the space in root. Just a thought.

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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