Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-20 Thread Art
Willie, 

Here is a shot in the dark but hopefully will help. 

if you have a  DFSMSHSM CONTROL DATASET - MIGRATED DATASET-- LISTING
do a search on the file and see if it shows the volume that your file was 
migrated too and try to recatalog it with that volume number.
  DATASETMIGRATED  LAST REF   
. NAME  ON VOLUMEDATE  
. Your file41022207/10/03

and if you want. use IEFBR14 as shown here. 
//STEP01  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//DD1 DD DSN=YOUR FILE NAME, 
//   DISP=(OLD,CATLG,CATLG),  
//   UNIT=your unit name, 
//   VOL=SER=410222

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-19 Thread Staller, Allan
snip
If the migrated dataset was scratched, the MCDS definitions for the
dataset are gone also, and this is what is causing your recall failure.
/snip

This is not necessarily true. There are parameters that govern how long
these records are kept in the CDS's. SETSYS MIGRATIONCLEANUPDAYS
controls this activity (please RTFM for the full details). At the end of
this interval, the records are deleted during secondary space
management.

The situation described by the OP had the dataset being uncataloged very
shortly after migration and (presumably) before secondary space
management occurred, so the record should have been in the MCDS.

Given that the record was in the MCDS, DEF NVSAM(NAME(X) DEVT(tape
device) volume(MIGRAT)' should enable the recall of the dataset.

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread willie bunter
I TRIED IT OUT AND IT DIDN'T WORK.  BELOW IS MESSAGE:
   
  ARC1001I SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0028,  
ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=   
ARC1128I BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST 


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Good Day,

A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error
( del nscr purge). Is there a way of getting it back?

I tried :
DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00) - 
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) - 
RECATALOG) 


IF DFHSM still has it available via archive(?), then just restore it. If
you have to restore it with a G00V00 name other than how it was, then
use G0001V01 (which is the next version of the generation data set
itself).

Regards,
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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread McKown, John
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 Good Day,

   A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was 
 uncataloged in error ( del nscr purge).  Is there a way of 
 getting it back?

   I tried :
   DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00)  -  
 VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -  
 RECATALOG) 
 
   I received the following:

   IDC3201I CONSTANT 'MIGRAT2' EXCEEDS LENGTH LIMIT 
 
   Is there something else I can try?

   Thanks.

Catalog it to MIGRAT with a device type of X'78048081'. Also, all
migrated files are NONVSAM.

DEF NVSAM(NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00) -
DEVT(X'78048081') -
VOLUME(MIGRAT))

I __think__ that is correct. Well, off to the group lunch! OutBack Steak
House! yum.

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DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread willie bunter
Good Day,
   
  A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error ( del 
nscr purge).  Is there a way of getting it back?
   
  I tried :
  DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00)  -  
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -  
RECATALOG) 

  I received the following:
   
  IDC3201I CONSTANT 'MIGRAT2' EXCEEDS LENGTH LIMIT 

  Is there something else I can try?
   
  Thanks.

   
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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
A couple thoughts.  First of all, shut the caps-lock key off.  It looks
like you're yelling at us.  :-)

Did you try doing the DEFINE NVSAM that John (I believe) tossed out?

At least at our site, before a dataset can get migrated, it must be
backed up via DFHSM backup routines.  You could try running a DFHSM
RECOVER command to try to get the most recent backup of the dataset.  

Post the actual command you tried below.  That could give us a clue as
to what you actually tried!  Running the RECALL command against the
dataset would be the correct way to get it back from the ML2 volume.

How long ago did the dataset get uncataloged?  Depending on what DFHSM
has run since the uncatalog happened may cause you problems.

Do you have any full-volume backups of the pack it was originally on?
If so, you may be able to get it back from a backup.


Rex

 

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I TRIED IT OUT AND IT DIDN'T WORK.  BELOW IS MESSAGE:
   
  ARC1001I SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0028,

ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=

ARC1128I BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST



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Subject: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

Good Day,

A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error (
del nscr purge). Is there a way of getting it back?

I tried :
DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00) -
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -
RECATALOG) 


IF DFHSM still has it available via archive(?), then just restore it. If
you have to restore it with a G00V00 name other than how it was, then
use G0001V01 (which is the next version of the generation data set
itself).

Regards,
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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread willie bunter
Rex,
   
  My apologies for using caps-lock.
   
  I tired the DEFINE NVAS command and I am having a problem with device type:
  IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 168 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEH-4
   
  I know it is a high density drive 9840 (STORAGETEK) but it doesn't seem to 
work.
  Here is my command:
  DEFINE NVSAM (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00 )  -  
DEVT(9840) -  
VOLUMES(MIGRAT) - 

  I perfomed a recall of another migrated dataset just to verify the drive type 
and it shows the device type as 3590.
   
  I tried the RECOVER but it failed because of :
  ARC1001I SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00  RECOVER FAILED, RC=0028,
ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS= 
ARC1128I BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST   



Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A couple thoughts. First of all, shut the caps-lock key off. It looks
like you're yelling at us. :-)

Did you try doing the DEFINE NVSAM that John (I believe) tossed out?

At least at our site, before a dataset can get migrated, it must be
backed up via DFHSM backup routines. You could try running a DFHSM
RECOVER command to try to get the most recent backup of the dataset. 

Post the actual command you tried below. That could give us a clue as
to what you actually tried! Running the RECALL command against the
dataset would be the correct way to get it back from the ML2 volume.

How long ago did the dataset get uncataloged? Depending on what DFHSM
has run since the uncatalog happened may cause you problems.

Do you have any full-volume backups of the pack it was originally on?
If so, you may be able to get it back from a backup.


Rex



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I TRIED IT OUT AND IT DIDN'T WORK. BELOW IS MESSAGE:

ARC1001I SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0028,

ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=

ARC1128I BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST



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Subject: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

Good Day,

A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error (
del nscr purge). Is there a way of getting it back?

I tried :
DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00) -
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -
RECATALOG) 


IF DFHSM still has it available via archive(?), then just restore it. If
you have to restore it with a G00V00 name other than how it was, then
use G0001V01 (which is the next version of the generation data set
itself).

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread Staller, Allan
Do the define without the RECATALOG parameter

DEF NVSAM(name(x) devt(tape) volume(migrat))

snip   
  A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error
( del nscr purge).  Is there a way of getting it back?
   
  I tried :
  DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00)  -  
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -  
RECATALOG) 

  I received the following:
   
  IDC3201I CONSTANT 'MIGRAT2' EXCEEDS LENGTH LIMIT 
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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread willie bunter
I tried your suggestion for the DEVT.  Still same error message:
   
  IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 168 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEH-4 

  I will keep on digging.

Adams, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Issue the DEFINE command again but use device type DEVT(X'78048083').
Then try to recall the dataset. If it fails look in the HSM Storage
Administration Guide and follow the steps for Case 9 in the Data
Recovery Scenarios Chapter (at least that is the case in the 1.8
manual!). You would look for the heading:
Reestablish Access to Previously Deleted Migrated Data Sets (No Backup
Exists, ML2 Only)

That should fix you up.

ThanksRick

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I forgot to answer your question about how long ago the dataset was
uncataloged. It was about 2 hours ago.

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread Adams, Rick
Issue the DEFINE command again but use device type DEVT(X'78048083').
Then try to recall the dataset.  If it fails look in the HSM Storage
Administration Guide and follow the steps for Case 9 in the Data
Recovery Scenarios Chapter (at least that is the case in the 1.8
manual!).  You would look for the heading:
Reestablish Access to Previously Deleted Migrated Data Sets (No Backup
Exists, ML2 Only)

That should fix you up.

ThanksRick

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I forgot to answer your question about how long ago the dataset was
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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Good Day,
   
  A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error
( del nscr purge).  Is there a way of getting it back?
   
  I tried :
  DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00)  -  
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -  
RECATALOG) 
SNIP

IF DFHSM still has it available via archive(?), then just restore it. If
you have to restore it with a G00V00 name other than how it was, then
use G0001V01 (which is the next version of the generation data set
itself).

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
If it was only a couple hours DFHSM shouldn't have had time to clear out
all backups of the dataset.  Did you try either RECALL or RECOVER?  If
so, what command did you use and what was the output?

Rex

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I forgot to answer your question about how long ago the dataset was
uncataloged.  It was about 2 hours ago.

Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A couple thoughts.
First of all, shut the caps-lock key off. It looks like you're yelling
at us. :-)

Did you try doing the DEFINE NVSAM that John (I believe) tossed out?

At least at our site, before a dataset can get migrated, it must be
backed up via DFHSM backup routines. You could try running a DFHSM
RECOVER command to try to get the most recent backup of the dataset. 

Post the actual command you tried below. That could give us a clue as to
what you actually tried! Running the RECALL command against the dataset
would be the correct way to get it back from the ML2 volume.

How long ago did the dataset get uncataloged? Depending on what DFHSM
has run since the uncatalog happened may cause you problems.

Do you have any full-volume backups of the pack it was originally on?
If so, you may be able to get it back from a backup.


Rex



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I TRIED IT OUT AND IT DIDN'T WORK. BELOW IS MESSAGE:

ARC1001I SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0028,

ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=

ARC1128I BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST



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Subject: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

Good Day,

A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error (
del nscr purge). Is there a way of getting it back?

I tried :
DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00) -
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -
RECATALOG) 


IF DFHSM still has it available via archive(?), then just restore it. If
you have to restore it with a G00V00 name other than how it was, then
use G0001V01 (which is the next version of the generation data set
itself).

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread willie bunter
I forgot to answer your question about how long ago the dataset was 
uncataloged.  It was about 2 hours ago.

Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A couple thoughts. First of all, 
shut the caps-lock key off. It looks
like you're yelling at us. :-)

Did you try doing the DEFINE NVSAM that John (I believe) tossed out?

At least at our site, before a dataset can get migrated, it must be
backed up via DFHSM backup routines. You could try running a DFHSM
RECOVER command to try to get the most recent backup of the dataset. 

Post the actual command you tried below. That could give us a clue as
to what you actually tried! Running the RECALL command against the
dataset would be the correct way to get it back from the ML2 volume.

How long ago did the dataset get uncataloged? Depending on what DFHSM
has run since the uncatalog happened may cause you problems.

Do you have any full-volume backups of the pack it was originally on?
If so, you may be able to get it back from a backup.


Rex



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I TRIED IT OUT AND IT DIDN'T WORK. BELOW IS MESSAGE:

ARC1001I SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0028,

ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=

ARC1128I BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST



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Subject: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

Good Day,

A files which was migrated by DFHSM (MIGRAT2)was uncataloged in error (
del nscr purge). Is there a way of getting it back?

I tried :
DEFINE CL (NAME(SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00) -
VOLUMES(MIGRAT2) -
RECATALOG) 


IF DFHSM still has it available via archive(?), then just restore it. If
you have to restore it with a G00V00 name other than how it was, then
use G0001V01 (which is the next version of the generation data set
itself).

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Don't RECOVER, RESTORE!

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Subject: Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

I TRIED IT OUT AND IT DIDN'T WORK.  BELOW IS MESSAGE:
   
  ARC1001I SCCPM1.GBANK.LOG3.FDBS0658.G0001V00 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0028,

ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=

ARC1128I BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST



Thompson, Steve snip wrote:

snip

IF DFHSM still has it available via archive(?), then just restore it. If
you have to restore it with a G00V00 name other than how it was, then
use G0001V01 (which is the next version of the generation data set
itself).

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Re: DFHSM - URGENT HELP

2007-11-16 Thread Joel C. Ewing
If the migrated dataset was scratched, the MCDS definitions for the 
dataset are gone also, and this is what is causing your recall failure.


In addition the the DEF NVSAM to catalog the dataset, you will also need 
to determine what ML2 volume contains the dataset (may require looking 
at old HSM CDS backups) and then run an DFHSM AUDIT on that tape, which 
will then see the dataset cataloged to MIGRAT and on the tape but not in 
the MCDS and propose/make the necessary fixes in MCDS to make the 
dataset accessible again.


Another approach that we occasionally use, assuming you have backups of 
the HSM CDS datasets and a recovery/test MVS platform that can be used:
You can bring up an HSM environment on a test system with back level 
versions of the production CDS datasets that still have the dataset on 
ML2 and catalog the dataset to MIGRAT with DEF NVSAM on the test system, 
 Recall the dataset there, and then export the dataset back to the 
production system by some means, where it can be re-migrated back to ML2.


Willie bunter wrote:

I tried your suggestion for the DEVT.  Still same error message:
   
  IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 168 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEH-4 


  I will keep on digging.

Adams, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Issue the DEFINE command again but use device type DEVT(X'78048083').
Then try to recall the dataset. If it fails look in the HSM Storage
Administration Guide and follow the steps for Case 9 in the Data
Recovery Scenarios Chapter (at least that is the case in the 1.8
manual!). You would look for the heading:
Reestablish Access to Previously Deleted Migrated Data Sets (No Backup
Exists, ML2 Only)

That should fix you up.

ThanksRick


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