Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 06:07:59 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. Being Snip End Snip Thanks in advance -- When you say no changes, do you really mean NO changes. That is: No maintence to z/OS No maintance to DFSORT IIRC you can specific default DFSORT system parameters, these did not change either? Yes John, no maintenance to z/OS or DFSORT. DFSORT system parameters are different from default but it hasn't been changed between executions! Thx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:46:54 -0800, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/01/2005 01:14:36 AM: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. ... Any idea to continue working? If you want to know why hipersorting couldn't be used for this particular run, I need to see the ICE898I message information. But what exactly is the concern here? Did the job using dataspace fail? DFSORT can choose memory object sorting, data space sorting, or hipersorting for the same job at different times depending on what's going on in the system at the time. This doesn't mean that the job isn't working, unless it actually failed. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM) Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ Hello Frank, as I mentioned at mvshelp forum we'll sent you output of executions, one of them using hiperspc. and another using dataspaces. Thank you for your help Christian Blesa DMR-Qualitas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
Another important difference: Before: ICE752I FSZ= 26843782528 BC IGN= 14280193 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34865459 C DYN= 630120 56664 Now: ICE752I FSZ= 26663697126 BC IGN= 14119737 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34631560 C DYN= 1389344 24544 Thanks Chr. On 12/1/05, DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. This job executes DFSORT: //P015 EXEC PGM=SORT,PARM='DYNALLOC=(,90),FILSZ=E0014119737' Statistics before: RECORDS - IN: 14240593, OUT: 14240593 NUMBER OF BYTES SORTED: 25405217912 AVERAGE RECORD LENGTH = 1784 BYTES TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 700875 , TRACKS USED: 522495 HIPERSPACE STORAGE USED = 1048464K BYTES DATA SPACE STORAGE USED = 0K BYTES Statistics now: RECORDS - IN: 14346472, OUT: 14346472 NUMBER OF BYTES SORTED: 25594106048 AVERAGE RECORD LENGTH = 1784 BYTES TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 628785 , TRACKS USED: 459660 HIPERSPACE STORAGE USED = 0K BYTES DATA SPACE STORAGE USED = 202216K BYTES We have compared execution messages and we have seen following differences: ICE750I Before: DC 26843782528 TC 0 CS DSVT0 KSZ 46 VSZ 46 Now: DC 26663697126 TC 0 CS DSVHH KSZ 46 VSZ 46 ICE886I Before: SYS 2956616 TSTG 4674693 FS 6553658 INIT 36949 MAX 50803 LEN 50803 Now: This message not appears ICE165I Before: TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 630120 TRACKS USED: 514800 Now: TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 686775 TRACKS USED: 514800 Following messages has appeared now: ICE880I 0 QP=64 QA=149 HI=465 LI=393 MI=541 TZ=262144 N1=262144 N2=262144 SZ=65 HN=1ICE897I 0 AVAL=1172189,BVAL=1880648,CVAL=1880648,ASV=1749576,HSZ=0,HM=M0,HN=2 ICE096I 0 SUCCESSFUL RECOVERY FROM B37 ABEND(S) FOR WORK DATA SET(S) ICE881I 0 EQ=I2 DX=0 D2=0 D3=63 D4=1 AS=0 SA=0 SB=0 SC=0 HN=1 Available storage is not changed and not in/decrease capacity sort pool!! Any idea to continue working? Thanks in advance -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. Being Snip End Snip Thanks in advance -- When you say no changes, do you really mean NO changes. That is: No maintence to z/OS No maintance to DFSORT IIRC you can specific default DFSORT system parameters, these did not change either? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing Another important difference: Before: ICE752I FSZ= 26843782528 BC IGN= 14280193 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34865459 C DYN= 630120 56664 Now: ICE752I FSZ= 26663697126 BC IGN= 14119737 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34631560 C DYN= 1389344 24544 Thanks Chr. On 12/1/05, DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. Who changed what, and when? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/01/2005 01:14:36 AM: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. ... Any idea to continue working? If you want to know why hipersorting couldn't be used for this particular run, I need to see the ICE898I message information. But what exactly is the concern here? Did the job using dataspace fail? DFSORT can choose memory object sorting, data space sorting, or hipersorting for the same job at different times depending on what's going on in the system at the time. This doesn't mean that the job isn't working, unless it actually failed. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM) Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
