Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/05/2005 at 08:24 AM, Thomas Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Norman's never been a product pimp, even when he was with Candle. He's never hid his company affiliation, so I think you're off-base here. To be fair, he failed to include his affiliation in his sig. I regard that as an innocent mistake, but still a mistake. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview
- Original Message - From: ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:40 PM Subject: Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview You still an employee of CA Norman ???. If so, perhaps you should make that more obvious when plugging CA products like this. Ed, Bruce, CC, et al make no attempt to hide their relationship with their employer Shane ... Shane, Norman's never been a product pimp, even when he was with Candle. He's never hid his company affiliation, so I think you're off-base here. Norman's one of the good guys. As far as SYSVIEW itself, it's a nice product, but SDSF has caught up with and surpassed it in JES spool browsing, IBM has added many of its dynamic functions, and TASID, SHOWMVS, and MXI provide most, if not all, of the display capability, for a lot less $$$'s. Given CA's outrageous price increases and the fact that they stripped capability from Legent license holders, I no longer recommend SYSVIEW. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview
On 8/5/2005 8:26 AM, Thomas Conley wrote: Norman's never been a product pimp, even when he was with Candle. He's never hid his company affiliation, so I think you're off-base here. Norman's one of the good guys. He may not hide his company affiliation, but as someone who follows ibm-main via the newsgroups, I can say that there is no indication in his posting that he works for CA. Possibly those of you following ibm-main via email can see a CA-based email address, but the newsgroup users cannot. Therefore, perhaps users mentioning their own products should include such relevant information in a signature block, which would be visible to all. Just my thoughts... Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview
The same functionality in SDFS is included in CA-Sysview. And you don't have to leave your Performance Monitor for Spooling and Job Management activities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview
You still an employee of CA Norman ???. If so, perhaps you should make that more obvious when plugging CA products like this. Ed, Bruce, CC, et al make no attempt to hide their relationship with their employer Shane ... From: Norman Hollander The same functionality in SDFS is included in CA-Sysview. And you don't have to leave your Performance Monitor for Spooling and Job Management activities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview
Sorry if you didn't know that. Most folks know who my current employer is. Since many folks ask about CA products I try to answer them or connect them to some one who can help them, I was a natural assumption. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ibm-main Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 SYSN 3:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview You still an employee of CA Norman ???. If so, perhaps you should make that more obvious when plugging CA products like this. Ed, Bruce, CC, et al make no attempt to hide their relationship with their employer Shane ... From: Norman Hollander The same functionality in SDFS is included in CA-Sysview. And you don't have to leave your Performance Monitor for Spooling and Job Management activities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES vs. IOF??? Try Sysview
Shane said; Ed, Bruce, CC, et al make no attempt to hide their relationship with their employer Nor (in general) do we plug products. BMC has a nice functional replacement for SDSF that also works on JES3, but with the added benefit of offering integrated ISPF-LIKE functions browse/edit/search/compare datasets, HFS files etc. But ooh, ah, blech it's a gooey and clearly not what was being asked/discussed, so I did not even dredge it up. I don't mind vendors giving the occasional plug for a product if its fairly clear what the connection is. I was aware of Norm Hollander's employer and I wasn't bothered by his, essentially a one liner, pitch. I'd cut him some slack on it. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
