ESOTERIC decomissioning

2005-11-16 Thread Big Iron
You can find entries in a catalog that specify an esoteric. They look like
x'8000' (tape) or x'2000' (disk) where  is a binary sequence number.

Other than say JES2 EXIT 6 or something similar, it would be harder to
identify jobs that specify an esoteric. A batch job will JCL error if it
specifies an esoteric that no longer exists.

The problem with esoterics in the catalog is that there is a sequence number
included in the device type entry, so if you remove one, all the other ones
with larger sequence numbers will change; so if there are esoterics in
catalog entries, they may point to a different esoteric. IIRC z/OS uses the
real device type, so someone would have had to use IDCAMS DEFINE (or
equivalent) to create a catalog entry that specifies an esoteric.

 Bill

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'day
> I did do a fair amount of reading on the list to see if someone has
> already done something of this sort.  Apparently yes but with way more
> experience than I have.  Hence asking for help.
>
> We are in the process of decomissioning old ESOTERICs.  I would like to
> know if there is a possibility for me to track who is using a
> particular ESOTERIC.  To the best of my knowledge this is not available
> in SMF, can't be directly figured out from the CATALOG entries through
> DEVTYPE.  I read most of what Bruce Black and others discussed.  Still
> can't see the light.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> brgds
> @sh.

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Re: ESOTERIC decomissioning

2005-11-16 Thread Gabe Torres
There is the utility IEFESO in SAMPLIB, in conjunction with the member
IEFESOJL. 

You can modify the asm code to your liking.  We did some very basic
changes to it to get what we wanted.
I ended up with a report like this:

Data set FAC.CB.CH.CIMSDISK.BKPOCT03  was found to be
cataloged using esoteric CARTF02645  1
Data set FAC.CB.CH.CIMSDISK.OCT03 was found to be
cataloged using esoteric CARTF02651  1
Data set FAC.CB.SPD.HSTAUG92  was found to be
cataloged using esoteric CARTF19845  1
Data set FAC.COB2TEST was found to be
cataloged using esoteric 
Data set FAC.HM.HELPERS2  was found to be
cataloged using esoteric 
Data set FAC.MVS.SMFAPR01.P1  was found to be
cataloged using esoteric CARTR00123  1
Data set FAC.MVS.SMFAPR01.P1  was found to be
cataloged using esoteric CARTR00048  1
Data set FAC.PP.LINKLIB   was found to be
cataloged using esoteric 
Data set FAC.TP.HELPERS.TCPTSTwas found to be
cataloged using esoteric 


Of course, you probably should scan JCL libraries and change to using a
Generic name like '3480'.

gabe 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'day
> I did do a fair amount of reading on the list to see if someone has 
> already done something of this sort.  Apparently yes but with way more

> experience than I have.  Hence asking for help.
>
> We are in the process of decomissioning old ESOTERICs.  I would like 
> to know if there is a possibility for me to track who is using a 
> particular ESOTERIC.  To the best of my knowledge this is not 
> available in SMF, can't be directly figured out from the CATALOG 
> entries through DEVTYPE.  I read most of what Bruce Black and others 
> discussed.  Still can't see the light.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> brgds
> @sh.

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Re: ESOTERIC decomissioning

2005-11-16 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg

At 17:16 -0600 on 11/16/2005, Big Iron wrote about ESOTERIC decomissioning:


The problem with esoterics in the catalog is that there is a sequence number
included in the device type entry, so if you remove one, all the other ones
with larger sequence numbers will change; so if there are esoterics in
catalog entries, they may point to a different esoteric. IIRC z/OS uses the
real device type, so someone would have had to use IDCAMS DEFINE (or
equivalent) to create a catalog entry that specifies an esoteric.


I may be wrong but I have the impression that if you open a cataloged 
dataset that has an esoteric device type, the catalog is 
automatically updated (I think at close time) to have the correct 
device type (IOW: As you access datasets, any esoterics are replaced 
with the correct device type value for that volume).


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Re: ESOTERIC decomissioning

2005-11-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:16:58 -0600, Big Iron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>The problem with esoterics in the catalog is that there is a
>sequence number
>included in the device type entry, so if you remove one, all the other ones
>with larger sequence numbers will change; so if there are esoterics in
>catalog entries, they may point to a different esoteric.

This hasn't been an issue since MVS/ESA V5.  You assign tokens (a number)
in the HCD along with the esoteric, so if you remove an esoteric the
tokens for the ones that remain don't change.

If you currently have no tokens assigned in your HCD, just assign them.

Regards,

Mark
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Re: ESOTERIC decomissioning

2005-11-17 Thread Gabe Torres
Mark,
  If Tokens were assigned, wouldn't any current cataloged dataset using
an esoteric have to be uncataloged, then cataloged?  Or at least assign
a Token that matches the entry in the table.

gabe  

  

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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:16:58 -0600, Big Iron
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>The problem with esoterics in the catalog is that there is a sequence 
>number included in the device type entry, so if you remove one, all the

>other ones with larger sequence numbers will change; so if there are 
>esoterics in catalog entries, they may point to a different esoteric.

This hasn't been an issue since MVS/ESA V5.  You assign tokens (a
number) in the HCD along with the esoteric, so if you remove an esoteric
the tokens for the ones that remain don't change.

If you currently have no tokens assigned in your HCD, just assign them.

Regards,

Mark
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Re: ESOTERIC decomissioning

2005-11-17 Thread Big Iron
One could presumably assign tokens to match the existing numbers associated
with those esoterics,

Bill

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:14:17 -0800, Gabe Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mark,
>  If Tokens were assigned, wouldn't any current cataloged dataset using
>an esoteric have to be uncataloged, then cataloged?  Or at least assign
>a Token that matches the entry in the table.
>
>gabe
>
>
>
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>Subject: Re: ESOTERIC decomissioning
>
>On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:16:58 -0600, Big Iron
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>The problem with esoterics in the catalog is that there is a sequence
>>number included in the device type entry, so if you remove one, all the
>
>>other ones with larger sequence numbers will change; so if there are
>>esoterics in catalog entries, they may point to a different esoteric.
>
>This hasn't been an issue since MVS/ESA V5.  You assign tokens (a
>number) in the HCD along with the esoteric, so if you remove an esoteric
>the tokens for the ones that remain don't change.
>
>If you currently have no tokens assigned in your HCD, just assign them.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark
>--
>Mark Zelden
>Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America
>and Farmers Insurance Group
>mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Systems Programming expert at http://Search390.com/ateExperts/ Mark's
>MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html
>

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