External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Gabe Torres
Hello List,
  I am looking to connect the z900 to an external time source. I will 
re-activate the 9037-2 Sysplex Timers, (once used when we had multiple 
processors), to use modem dialup to ACTS in Boulder, CO.

The UNIX Group is getting Time off the Internet using NTP.  They indicate I can 
connect to their RISC/UNIX Server to get the time, instead of dialing out.

I have read, and re-read every item I could find in the Archives,  but could 
not positively assert it is possible to connect the 9037-2 to the RISC box.  
Ken Clapp's CBT and Website option to make the Mainframe the primary time 
source looks interesting, but for the short-time, synchronizing to Boulder or 
the RISC is the target.  

Has anybody on the List connected to RISC/UNIX for their ETS ?   Any insight on 
doing this ??

Thanks to all, for consideration,
 Gabe
 


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Cut-Paste from 9037 Planning Manual on available External Time Source options.
  _ __   _ 
 |  9037   | EIA-232  | |External | Telephone Line
 | Console |   Port   |_|  Modem  |___¨to ACTS
 |_|__| |_|

  _ __   _ 
 |  9037   | EIA-232  | |Time-Code|
 | Console |   Port   |_|Receiver |___¨ To Antenna
 |_|__| |_|

  _ __   _ 
 |  9037   | EIA-232  | |Time-Code| External Time 
RS6000/UNIX 
 | Console |   Port   |_|Generator|___¨ Code Input
 |_|__| |_|

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Re: External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Gabe Torres said:

 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:00:16 -0700
 
 Has anybody on the List connected to RISC/UNIX for their ETS ?   Any insight 
 on
 doing this ??
 
Not I, but I understand the recommended technique is to connect the
EIA-232 port on the ETR to the RISC/UNIX system, perhaps by a null
modem cable, and let RISC/UNIX spoof the behavior of ACTS, including
the responses to dialing commands, etc.

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 Cut-Paste from 9037 Planning Manual on available External Time Source options.
   _ __   _
  |  9037   | EIA-232  | |External | Telephone Line
  | Console |   Port   |_|  Modem  |___¨to ACTS
  |_|__| |_|
 
becomes:
_ __   _
   |  9037   | EIA-232  | |  Null   | RISC/UNIX
   | Console |   Port   |_|  Modem  |___¨ emulating ACTS
   |_|__| |_|

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Re: External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Alan C. Field
Gabe,

I read Paul's suggestion. Unless you can find the code to emulate the 
Boulder
time signal that sounds like a lot of work. 

You don't say what version of z/OS you're running. We used Ken Clapp's NTP 
server
but on z/OS 1.6 there is a SNTP component of TCPIP. 

I'd recommend you dial out from the z box with the sysplex timer and then 
point
everything else to the NTP server on the z Box. 

That's what we do here. Unix/Wintel world were reluctant to do that 
initially but
eventually saw the light. 

Much simpler solution - and it works.

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Re: External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Skip Robinson
The recommended solution works anywhere from 1.4 (where SNTP was
introduced) on up. Below 1.4, Ken Clapp is your man.

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IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/19/2005
10:08:01:

 Gabe,

 I read Paul's suggestion. Unless you can find the code to emulate the
 Boulder
 time signal that sounds like a lot of work.

 You don't say what version of z/OS you're running. We used Ken Clapp's
NTP
 server
 but on z/OS 1.6 there is a SNTP component of TCPIP.

 I'd recommend you dial out from the z box with the sysplex timer and then

 point
 everything else to the NTP server on the z Box.

 That's what we do here. Unix/Wintel world were reluctant to do that
 initially but
 eventually saw the light.

 Much simpler solution - and it works.

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Re: External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Gabe Torres
 We are on zOS1.4, with zOS1.6 coming later this year.
Thanks for the info.
gabe 

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The recommended solution works anywhere from 1.4 (where SNTP was
introduced) on up. Below 1.4, Ken Clapp is your man.

.
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/19/2005
10:08:01:

 Gabe,

 I read Paul's suggestion. Unless you can find the code to emulate the 
 Boulder time signal that sounds like a lot of work.

 You don't say what version of z/OS you're running. We used Ken Clapp's
NTP
 server
 but on z/OS 1.6 there is a SNTP component of TCPIP.

 I'd recommend you dial out from the z box with the sysplex timer and 
 then

 point
 everything else to the NTP server on the z Box.

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