Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-11 Thread Ed Micucci
Thanks to all for replies.

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HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Micucci
We want to turn on the Allow dynamic changes to the channel subsystem
input/output (I/O) definition switch on the HMC.  But this will require
storage, and I can not find reference as to how much.  We currently have all
available storage tied up among our LPARs.  So I must steal some storage
from an LPAR, and I'd like to keep it to the minimum.  Any info will be
greatly appreciated.

Ed Micucci

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
I believe the I/O configuration display command mentioned should be D
IOS,CONFIG(HSA).

Regards,

Kevin

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It depends on the processor type you have and whether you have FICON, or
not.

The z/990 tends towards a GIG for HSA, and you need at least a 50%
cushion.
But, I would plan for twice as much as you are currently using.

You can display the memory usage through the HMC (I forget how).
Or, you can figure it out by how much you have installed vs how much you
have allocated to LPARs.

D IOS,HSA

Only displays the number of devices defined, NOT memory (at least the
last time I looked).


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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Micucci
Ted,

We have NO storage available for this.  I will have to steal some from a
test LPAR.  So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running a
z890.  

Ed

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
IBM Resource Link has an HSA Estimator look under Tools for z9.  z990
had it on the HMC.  I don't recall if it's on the z890 HMC.  

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Ted,

We have NO storage available for this.  I will have to steal some from a
test LPAR.  So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running
a z890.  

Ed

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running a
z890.

Look at the SAPR Guide for z/890.

I have only looked at the ones for the z/900  z/990.
They both have an HSA planning table.
I assume the z/890 has one, as well.

IIRC, SAPR - System Assurance Planning Reference.


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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Hal Merritt
Easy enough. Just flip the switch, turn off 'load on activate', and POR.
Then activate your LPARS one at a time in priority order. When you run
out of main, then that activation will fail. Reduce the allocation for
that LPAR to fit. 

The risk is that you will run out of main before you run out of LPAR's
and you will have to deactivate and reduce several LPARs. If you do not
'load on activate', then you can back out before you IPL. Dynamic
changes are oh so handy but oh so expensive. Well worth it IMHO but
YMMV.



HTH and good luck.

 

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We want to turn on the Allow dynamic changes to the channel subsystem
input/output (I/O) definition switch on the HMC.  But this will require
storage, and I can not find reference as to how much.  We currently have
all
available storage tied up among our LPARs.  So I must steal some storage
from an LPAR, and I'd like to keep it to the minimum.  Any info will be
greatly appreciated.

Ed Micucci

 

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Re: HMC : Dynamic I/O

2006-05-10 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
It really depends on how big the IOCDS is, how much is being reserved
for dynamic expansion, etc.  The Processor Resource/Systems Manager
Planning Guide and Support Element Operations Guide have good
information on this.  As mentioned previously the support element has an
HSA Estimation Tool.  As an absolute guess, baring FICON, as a place to
start I would figure about 512MB.

Regards,

Kevin

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Ted,

We have NO storage available for this.  I will have to steal some from a
test LPAR.  So I'm looking for the minimal amount needed.  We're running
a
z890.  

Ed

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