Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Okay, I have forgotten so much about TSO/VTAM I need to little refresher course.

We have 160 for Max Usr defined.  We have 256 VTAM Applids defined for TSO 
usage.  Yet we are getting IKT011I Message TCAS UNABLE TO ACCEPT LOGON RC=100

We use TCPIP to logon to TSO but that is about the only difference I can think 
of.

What would I need to look at to see why the IKT011I message is being produced?  
From the message I am at a loss to explain the lack of TCAS Logons.

100
   No more TSO user APPLIDs are available. You may have defined too
   few TSO user APPLIDs.   


Lizette

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 10:10:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What  would I need to look at to see why the IKT011I message is being  
produced?  From the message I am at a loss to explain the lack of TCAS  Logons.





Hard to tell w/o more info. Normally TCP recycles APPLIds. Are you  
experiencing network problems? D net,pending or a few NETSTAT commands ought to 
 give 
you a clue. 



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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
No - no network issues, the D NET,PENDING has nothing queued.  NETSTAT does not 
show any issues.

We are at z/OS V1.7.  We made no changes to any parms.  Our MAX Address space 
in IEASYS00 is 375, we currently have 363 address spaces running.  In TSOKEY00 
our USERMAX=160 (D TS indicates only 80 out of 160 being used).  We show VTAM 
TSO Appl display with 256 appls but up to 80 show ACT/S the rest are CONCT.

Confusion abounds.  There are no additional error messages indicating a 
problem.  I may open an ETR to IBM if I am unable to resolve this issue.  

Do you think any USS processes may be affecting my MAX Address Space 
information?  Or am I barking up the wrong O'Ladder? 

So - other than VTAM TSO Appl definitions and USERMAX, anything else to look at 
for TSO?

Lizette





Hard to tell w/o more info. Normally TCP recycles APPLIds. Are you  
experiencing network problems? D net,pending or a few NETSTAT commands ought 
to  give 
you a clue. 



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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Think we found it.  In our VTAMLST definition for TSO, we had this

IST080I TSOH878  ACT/S  TSOH879  ACT/S  TSOH880  ACT/S   
IST080I TSOH8H8  CONCT  TSOH882  CONCT  TSOH883  CONCT   
IST080I TSOH884  CONCT  TSOH885  CONCT  TSOH886  CONCT   



After TSOH880 comes TSOH8H8.  And that is where we are stopping. So I am 
guessing that VTAM stopped because the TSOH8H8 was not acceptable for some 
reason.  At least that is what coincidence is telling me.


We will change the TSOH8H8 to TSOH881 and cycle the TSO ACB tonight.  Will let 
you know how it works.

Lizette




No - no network issues, the D NET,PENDING has nothing queued.  NETSTAT does 
not show any issues.

We are at z/OS V1.7.  We made no changes to any parms.  Our MAX Address space 
in IEASYS00 is 375, we currently have 363 address spaces running.  In TSOKEY00 
our USERMAX=160 (D TS indicates only 80 out of 160 being used).  We show VTAM 
TSO Appl display with 256 appls but up to 80 show ACT/S the rest are CONCT.

Confusion abounds.  There are no additional error messages indicating a 
problem.  I may open an ETR to IBM if I am unable to resolve this issue.  

Do you think any USS processes may be affecting my MAX Address Space 
information?  Or am I barking up the wrong O'Ladder? 

So - other than VTAM TSO Appl definitions and USERMAX, anything else to look 
at for TSO?

Lizette





Hard to tell w/o more info. Normally TCP recycles APPLIds. Are you  
experiencing network problems? D net,pending or a few NETSTAT commands ought 
to  give 
you a clue. 



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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:56 AM
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 Subject: Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100
 
 
 Think we found it.  In our VTAMLST definition for TSO, we had this
 
 IST080I TSOH878  ACT/S  TSOH879  ACT/S  TSOH880  ACT/S   
 IST080I TSOH8H8  CONCT  TSOH882  CONCT  TSOH883  CONCT   
 IST080I TSOH884  CONCT  TSOH885  CONCT  TSOH886  CONCT   
 
 
 
 After TSOH880 comes TSOH8H8.  And that is where we are 
 stopping. So I am guessing that VTAM stopped because the 
 TSOH8H8 was not acceptable for some reason.  At least that is 
 what coincidence is telling me.
 
 
 We will change the TSOH8H8 to TSOH881 and cycle the TSO ACB 
 tonight.  Will let you know how it works.
 
 Lizette

If you need this RIGHT NOW, then you can create a temporary VTAMLST
member containing only the TSO881 entry and V NET,ACT,ID=... to activate
it. 

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Subject: Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

No - no network issues, the D NET,PENDING has nothing queued.  NETSTAT
does not show any issues.

We are at z/OS V1.7.  We made no changes to any parms.  Our MAX Address
space in IEASYS00 is 375, we currently have 363 address spaces running.
In TSOKEY00 our USERMAX=160 (D TS indicates only 80 out of 160 being
used).  We show VTAM TSO Appl display with 256 appls but up to 80 show
ACT/S the rest are CONCT.
SNIP

I have been away from this aspect for a bit, but something to think
about:

While you did not say ADDRESS SPACE create failure was happening, a
quick look at the numbers, you only have 13 address spaces available.
Now, if you have a certain number in reserve for system usage...

So you might want to up your number of address spaces a bit to give
yourself just a bit more wiggle room.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Okay, one last help,
My vtam is very weak.

If I create a new member in VTAMLST with the TSOH881 will that allow vtam to 
use the remaining 100+ appls, or are they unavailable until I fix my ACB?

Lizette



If you need this RIGHT NOW, then you can create a temporary VTAMLST
member containing only the TSO881 entry and V NET,ACT,ID=... to activate
it. 

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
We are planning to drop the MAX Address space from the individual IEASYS 
members (one per LPAR) and let the IEASYS00 member rule.  It has 1000 
specified.  Therefore, wiggle room will be obtained. We have IPLs scheduled for 
this weekend, so it will go in with those. 

Thanks for the advice.

Lizette

I have been away from this aspect for a bit, but something to think
about:

While you did not say ADDRESS SPACE create failure was happening, a
quick look at the numbers, you only have 13 address spaces available.
Now, if you have a certain number in reserve for system usage...

So you might want to up your number of address spaces a bit to give
yourself just a bit more wiggle room.


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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 10:56:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

We will  change the TSOH8H8 to TSOH881 and cycle the TSO ACB tonight.  Will 
let  you know how it works.





So the VTAM def and the TCP LUs don't match up? Guess you could vary inact  
H8H8 in vtam and TCP and see if it continued with the existing  defs...



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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:18 AM
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 Subject: Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100
 
 
 Okay, one last help,
 My vtam is very weak.
 
 If I create a new member in VTAMLST with the TSOH881 will 
 that allow vtam to use the remaining 100+ appls, or are they 
 unavailable until I fix my ACB?
 
 Lizette
 

They should then be available immediately. What is happening is that TSO
is trying to use the TSOH881 value, when it gets a bad RC from VTAM
(applid doesn't exist), it assumes that it ran out of possibilities and
just stops.

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Tim Hare
Make changes to the current member of VTAMLST, issue V 
NET,ACT,ID=,UPDATE=ALL  and it should implement your changes on the 
fly.

VTAM has quite a bit of update-while-running functionality, rarely 
mentioned, but it is documented.

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
I would also switch to using VTAM Generic resource definitions for TSO. 
Once this is in place you never will have problems with VTAM and TSO applids.

On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:48:08 -0400, Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Make changes to the current member of VTAMLST, issue V
NET,ACT,ID=,UPDATE=ALL  and it should implement your changes on the
fly.

VTAM has quite a bit of update-while-running functionality, rarely
mentioned, but it is documented.

Tim Hare
Senior Systems Programmer
Florida Department of Transportation
(850) 414-4209

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