Re: Host text file in Arabic
This dose not help you solve your problem but something I always see. I have seen many sites using Arabic on the mainframe and I always expect to see the same problem come up (and normally do) it's with two letters I think there called elle and phlam. Anyway, when put together they are one letter so when reversing the text, these letters don't get reversed. I always call on a friendly Arab to look at the problem and I get away quick. Kelvin Hills Saudi French Bank Riyadh Saudi Arabia Peter Hunkeler wrote: I never thought about and am not sure right-to-left is supported on z/OS. Anyone care to enlighten me? I'm currently doing the prepatory work to install zOS 1.6 with Arabic support and although zOS doesn't support right to left, the emulator does. There is quite a bit of work to do for zOS to support Arabic, such as ISPF/PDF screens being displayed in Arabic, DB2 and WAS in Arabic but it can be done. To set up yout PCOMM session to edit from right to left: 1. Select 420 Arabic Speaking as the host code page in the Customize Communication panel. 2. Select Arabic Speaking as the keyboard layout. 3. In the Select Display Font panel, choose ARB3270 at the Automatic Sizing list box or at the Fixed size font selection. 4. In the API Settings panel, select 864 as the DDE/EHLLAPI PC code page. 5. Choose Typing Arabic as the font in the Page Setup panel. And you can by pressing a combination of keys switch around. Sebastian. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Visit us on www.alfransi.com.sa == Banque Saudi Fransi - Privacy Notice == This message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. Any opinions and other information contained in this message that do not relate to the official business of Banque Saudi Fransi shall be understood as neither given or endorsed by it. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present in this email, BSF cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. == Banque Saudi Fransi - Privacy Notice == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Host text file in Arabic
Phil, Having worked at a company that had an Arabic contract a long tome ago in a galaxy far, far away, I can tell you that Arabic numbers are not foreign -- they have always read and printed their numbers left-to-right. Remember, they invented the concept of zero. The company I worked for at the time produced a 3270-workalike out of a microprocessor-based ASCII terminal (with 8-inch floppy drive, Zilog Z80 8-bit processor, 4K RAM) that supported both English mode and Arabic mode 3270 screens. The other interesting quality of Arabic printed words is that the shape of a character changes depending on the character that follows (to the left, that is). Most intriguing to see the text scrolling to the left and both changing direction for numbers and changing prior characters as new ones were displayed (on a slow, 2400-baud connection). I don't know Hebrew, but I would suppose it might have similar characteristics. Oh, and MVCIN first came with the 4300 processors, not 370. Peter -Original Message- From: Phil King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 4:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Host text file in Arabic Peter Hunkeler wrote: I never thought about and am not sure right-to-left is supported on z/OS. Anyone care to enlighten me? I have no idea whether or not z/OS explicitly supports right-to-left languages. However there were 3270 displays that supported right-to-left languages -- the support is known as bi-directional or BiDi. The help text in my IBM Personal Communications session indicates that it supports BiDi for Arabic and Hebrew code pages. Iirc the IBM 370 introduced the MVCIN (move character inverse) instruction to facilitate support for BiDi. So support for BiDi goes back a long way. I have a feeling that the original support provided on 3270 displays for right-to-left languages was not BiDi -- it was uni-directional and probably only required a very simple change to the wiring or electronics to completely reverse the display. This support had its limitations because a lot of Arabic and Hebrew text has imbedded foreign (for example English) words or numbers which are read left-to-right. _ This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Host text file in Arabic
Peter Hunkeler wrote: I never thought about and am not sure right-to-left is supported on z/OS. Anyone care to enlighten me? I'm currently doing the prepatory work to install zOS 1.6 with Arabic support and although zOS doesn't support right to left, the emulator does. There is quite a bit of work to do for zOS to support Arabic, such as ISPF/PDF screens being displayed in Arabic, DB2 and WAS in Arabic but it can be done. To set up yout PCOMM session to edit from right to left: 1. Select 420 Arabic Speaking as the host code page in the Customize Communication panel. 2. Select Arabic Speaking as the keyboard layout. 3. In the Select Display Font panel, choose ARB3270 at the Automatic Sizing list box or at the Fixed size font selection. 4. In the API Settings panel, select 864 as the DDE/EHLLAPI PC code page. 5. Choose Typing Arabic as the font in the Page Setup panel. And you can by pressing a combination of keys switch around. Sebastian. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Host text file in Arabic
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/17/2005 at 03:47 AM, Phil King [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Iirc the IBM 370 introduced the MVCIN (move character inverse) instruction to facilitate support for BiDi. No, it was introduced earlier: MVCIN was an RPQ on the 360/65. With ECPS:VSE on the 4341, MVCIN became a standard instruction. I don't recall when it became standard for other than VSE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Host text file in Arabic
My colleges has some Arabic text file in NT, and they would like to see how is with the text orientation in a HOST Arabic text file. In this case , if we could use the FTP code conversion to convert an NT text file to HOST Arabic text file. You might try quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-420,pc-arabic-codepage) on the ftp session. Replace the pc-arabic-codepage with the local codepage on NT. However, I never thought about and am not sure right-to-left is supported on z/OS. Anyone care to enlighten me? Peter Hunkeler Senior IT Specialist, IBM zSeries Technical Sales Support, Switzerland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Host text file in Arabic
If someone can send a text file which contains Arabic text in 420 code page. What exactly do you need? Can't you create one with the help of iconv? Peter Hunkeler Senior IT Specialist, IBM zSeries Technical Sales Support, Switzerland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Host text file in Arabic
Peter Hunkeler wrote: If someone can send a text file which contains Arabic text in 420 code page. What exactly do you need? Can't you create one with the help of iconv? Peter Hunkeler Senior IT Specialist, IBM zSeries Technical Sales Support, Switzerland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Hi Peter My colleges has some Arabic text file in NT, and they would like to see how is with the text orientation in a HOST Arabic text file. In this case , if we could use the FTP code conversion to convert an NT text file to HOST Arabic text file. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Host text file in Arabic
Hi If someone can send a text file which contains Arabic text in 420 code page. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
