Re: How to create a new system from a existing system

2010-06-10 Thread Hal Merritt
Some replicate the system volumes proper, and keep the 'personality' stuff 
(parmlibs, tcpparms, mcats, etc) separate. IODF's, for example, can be shared 
(note that they should be cataloged to each system for dynamic changes). 

Some used shared, concatenated parmlibs to keep the image specific stuff in one 
and the common stuff in another.  
 
There's some excellent RedBooks on the subject as well as the ABC's of System 
Programming series. 


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
ibmnew
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: How to create a new system from a existing system

Dear all

 As we know,if we want to create a new system from a existing system,we usually 
clone the existing system.

When we clone the existing system,we could use a new name convention for the 
new system.for example :

a new syslex name,a new system,a new MCAT name.  but it take few days to do 
it.


  I wonder whether I could  create a new system by coping all volumes on the 
exsiting system by full volume copy

 command with volid;then could I change the syslex name or system name? I feel 
it faster than clone.

 Of course we need do something as the following examples: 

For example:

Because there are duplex volumes,we need offline some of them from one 
system.because there is a new CF 

for the new system,we need redefine the CFRM.We aslo need modify VTAMTCP/IP 
definition..


Are there any other considerations we should pay attention to when we create 
the system by coping all volumes?


Any Suggestions are highly appreciated!

Thanks a lot!

Best Regards,

Jason Cai 





 

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are 
intended
exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, 
together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged 
information.
Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or 
distribution 
is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please 
immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies.

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html


Re: How to create a new system from a existing system

2010-06-10 Thread Schmeelk, Gregory
I have actually done the creation of a new system using EMC utilities to mirror 
and then split off complete copies of DASD a few times.

There are some significant problems with doing that, most notably dealing with 
duplicate volumes and setting up networking prior to splitting the volumes.  It 
can be pretty hazardous when IPLing and responding with the right unit 
addresses with all of the volumes.  Sometimes the operators have forgotten that 
you answer the one that you want kept OFFLINE, instead of what you want on.  It 
can make for some pretty interesting clean up after a mistake like that is made.
 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Hal Merritt
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: How to create a new system from a existing system

Some replicate the system volumes proper, and keep the 'personality' stuff 
(parmlibs, tcpparms, mcats, etc) separate. IODF's, for example, can be shared 
(note that they should be cataloged to each system for dynamic changes). 

Some used shared, concatenated parmlibs to keep the image specific stuff in one 
and the common stuff in another.  
 
There's some excellent RedBooks on the subject as well as the ABC's of System 
Programming series. 


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
ibmnew
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: How to create a new system from a existing system

Dear all

 As we know,if we want to create a new system from a existing system,we usually 
clone the existing system.

When we clone the existing system,we could use a new name convention for the 
new system.for example :

a new syslex name,a new system,a new MCAT name.  but it take few days to do 
it.


  I wonder whether I could  create a new system by coping all volumes on the 
exsiting system by full volume copy

 command with volid;then could I change the syslex name or system name? I feel 
it faster than clone.

 Of course we need do something as the following examples: 

For example:

Because there are duplex volumes,we need offline some of them from one 
system.because there is a new CF 

for the new system,we need redefine the CFRM.We aslo need modify VTAMTCP/IP 
definition..


Are there any other considerations we should pay attention to when we create 
the system by coping all volumes?


Any Suggestions are highly appreciated!

Thanks a lot!

Best Regards,

Jason Cai 





 

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at 
http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are 
intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The 
message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or 
privileged information.
Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or 
distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in 
error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all 
copies.

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at 
http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended 
recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary to US Foodservice, 
Inc and/or its subsidiaries or otherwise confidential or legally privileged. If 
you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply, and 
delete all copies of this message and any attachments. If you are the intended 
recipient you may use the information contained in this message and any files 
attached to this message only as authorized by US Foodservice. Files attached 
to this message may only be transmitted using secure systems and appropriate 
means of encryption, and must be secured using the same level password and 
security protection with which the file was provided to you. Any unauthorized 
use, dissemination or disclosure of this message or it's attachments is 
strictly prohibited.

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html


How to create a new system from a existing system

2010-06-09 Thread ibmnew
Dear all

 As we know,if we want to create a new system from a existing system,we usually 
clone the existing system.

When we clone the existing system,we could use a new name convention for the 
new system.for example :

a new syslex name,a new system,a new MCAT name.  but it take few days to do 
it.


  I wonder whether I could  create a new system by coping all volumes on the 
exsiting system by full volume copy

 command with volid;then could I change the syslex name or system name? I feel 
it faster than clone.

 Of course we need do something as the following examples: 

For example:

Because there are duplex volumes,we need offline some of them from one 
system.because there is a new CF 

for the new system,we need redefine the CFRM.We aslo need modify VTAMTCP/IP 
definition..


Are there any other considerations we should pay attention to when we create 
the system by coping all volumes?


Any Suggestions are highly appreciated!

Thanks a lot!

Best Regards,

Jason Cai 





 

--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html