IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Adams, Tracy
  
While I am cleaning out my DR room... I also have an IBM 7060 H30, $1
plus shipping and packaging.  Please respond to me directly.

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Re: IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
 While I am cleaning out my DR room... I also have an IBM 7060 H30,
 $1 plus shipping and packaging.

And I have a H50 that's probably not even worth that much.

Shane ...

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Re: IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld

Tracy,

I was going to email you and find out where your 7060 was located, but then 
I looked for your web site and found out you are in Vermont.  I would be 
interested in an H30, and it would fit in my car, but Vermont is a long way 
from Milwaukee.  Also, there is the minor problem of z/OS software.  I 
remember when the company I worked for had an H50, all of the IBM software 
cost 30K per month approximately.  I believe the 7060 runs z/OS 1.5 and 
below.


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434


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While I am cleaning out my DR room... I also have an IBM 7060 H30, $1
plus shipping and packaging.  Please respond to me directly.

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Re: IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/7/2 Adams, Tracy tad...@cvps.com:

 While I am cleaning out my DR room... I also have an IBM 7060 H30, $1
 plus shipping and packaging.  Please respond to me directly.

One in Florida sold on eBay just recently for US $515, with 4 serious
bidders (it started at $99). Item 220436063530, and from the pictures
it appears to have little or no DASD (or maybe it's the OS/2 disks
that are missing). OTOH the parts value may be higher than as a
running machine. Those 18 GB SSA drives are still available from IBM
at roughly $5000 each!

It's a great little machine, and many developers are disappointed that
IBM never made a z/Arch version.

Tony H.

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IBM 7060 H30 network cards

2005-11-02 Thread Richard Pinion
We have an IBM 7060 H30 that has 4 network cards.  One for OS/2, two for
prodcution z/OS LPAR, and one for test z/OS LPAR.  Last week we had to
unplug and replug the production LPAR network cables from the H30.  We did
this twice.  Both times the 7060's PC rebooted which as some of you might
know kills the S/390 processor.  We did not stop the TCP/IP stacks that
were using the interface cards.  Should we have stopped TCP/IP?  Should we
vary the even odd device addresses offline?  Should we vary the even odd
device address paths offline.  Should something on the OS/2 side (emio
device drivers) be stopped?

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Re: IBM 7060 H30 network cards

2005-11-02 Thread Hal Merritt
Had much the same configuration once, but don't ever recall any issues
plugging and unplugging those cables. 

We did have some serious issues trying to use the 3270 controller
emulation on the OS/2 NIC for console support. OS/2 would get really
flakey to the point of locking up or doing very strange things. We had
to use the little red reset button on more than one occasion. Since we
were using internal (emulated) DASD, we considered it unacceptable for
production except as a dead last resort. We did use it on our remote BR
machine, but we rebooted every week or so to keep OS/2 from going
bonkers. 

If you choose to use those emulated controllers, then I would strongly
suggest weekly reboots. 

HTH.

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We have an IBM 7060 H30 that has 4 network cards.  One for OS/2, two for
prodcution z/OS LPAR, and one for test z/OS LPAR.  Last week we had to
unplug and replug the production LPAR network cables from the H30.  We
did
this twice.  Both times the 7060's PC rebooted which as some of you
might
know kills the S/390 processor.  We did not stop the TCP/IP stacks that
were using the interface cards.  Should we have stopped TCP/IP?  Should
we
vary the even odd device addresses offline?  Should we vary the even odd
device address paths offline.  Should something on the OS/2 side (emio
device drivers) be stopped?

 

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Re: IBM 7060 H30 network cards

2005-11-02 Thread Meehan, Cheryl
In general, it's always a good idea to at least bring down the
interfaces ( on Z/OS) V TCPIP,,STOP,X  before unplugging cables.  I
usually also bring down the subchannel addresses, and chipid's  but I'm
known to be overcautious.

 

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We have an IBM 7060 H30 that has 4 network cards.  One for OS/2, two for
prodcution z/OS LPAR, and one for test z/OS LPAR.  Last week we had to
unplug and replug the production LPAR network cables from the H30.  We
did this twice.  Both times the 7060's PC rebooted which as some of you
might know kills the S/390 processor.  We did not stop the TCP/IP stacks
that were using the interface cards.  Should we have stopped TCP/IP?
Should we vary the even odd device addresses offline?  Should we vary
the even odd device address paths offline.  Should something on the OS/2
side (emio device drivers) be stopped?

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Re: IBM 7060 H30 network cards

2005-11-02 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
This is the reason when we put in our H50 we went with a third-party
network device.  I asked the business integrator who assisted us what
his take was on it and here is his reply:

Rex -

You are correct - what happened to them is exactly the reason you went
with the external device.  If any emulated I/O is in use, a reboot of
the Support Element will probably take MVS down.

If they had to unplug and replug the network cable connected to the
ethernet card, they should have done everything possible to stop all
activity on that card prior to unplugging the cable.   I'm not sure if
there is a foolproof procedure, but if I had to unplug the ethernet
cable I would do the following in this sequence.  Stop TCP/IP.  Vary
offline ALL emulated devices associated with that card.  Vary the path
to those devices
offline.  Config CHPID FC offline to this LPAR.   When this is complete,
you might be able to unplug the ethernet without taking down OS/2.  If
the cable work did not cause any OS/2 problems, reverse the above
procedure to get the TCP/IP connection restored.

As far as I know, there is nothing they could have done from an OS/2
perspective.  I know of no way to stop device drivers or anything else
that may be associated with the ethernet card.





HTH

Rex



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We have an IBM 7060 H30 that has 4 network cards.  One for OS/2, two for
prodcution z/OS LPAR, and one for test z/OS LPAR.  Last week we had to
unplug and replug the production LPAR network cables from the H30.  We
did this twice.  Both times the 7060's PC rebooted which as some of you
might know kills the S/390 processor.  We did not stop the TCP/IP stacks
that were using the interface cards.  Should we have stopped TCP/IP?
Should we vary the even odd device addresses offline?  Should we vary
the even odd device address paths offline.  Should something on the OS/2
side (emio device drivers) be stopped?

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Re: IBM 7060 H30 network cards

2005-11-02 Thread Richard Pinion
Hey thanks, that's what I needed to know!!!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2005 1:08:10 PM 
This is the reason when we put in our H50 we went with a third-party
network device.  I asked the business integrator who assisted us what
his take was on it and here is his reply:

Rex -

You are correct - what happened to them is exactly the reason you went
with the external device.  If any emulated I/O is in use, a reboot of
the Support Element will probably take MVS down.

If they had to unplug and replug the network cable connected to the
ethernet card, they should have done everything possible to stop all
activity on that card prior to unplugging the cable.   I'm not sure if
there is a foolproof procedure, but if I had to unplug the ethernet
cable I would do the following in this sequence.  Stop TCP/IP.  Vary
offline ALL emulated devices associated with that card.  Vary the path
to those devices
offline.  Config CHPID FC offline to this LPAR.   When this is complete,
you might be able to unplug the ethernet without taking down OS/2.  If
the cable work did not cause any OS/2 problems, reverse the above
procedure to get the TCP/IP connection restored.

As far as I know, there is nothing they could have done from an OS/2
perspective.  I know of no way to stop device drivers or anything else
that may be associated with the ethernet card.





HTH

Rex



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We have an IBM 7060 H30 that has 4 network cards.  One for OS/2, two for
prodcution z/OS LPAR, and one for test z/OS LPAR.  Last week we had to
unplug and replug the production LPAR network cables from the H30.  We
did this twice.  Both times the 7060's PC rebooted which as some of you
might know kills the S/390 processor.  We did not stop the TCP/IP stacks
that were using the interface cards.  Should we have stopped TCP/IP?
Should we vary the even odd device addresses offline?  Should we vary
the even odd device address paths offline.  Should something on the OS/2
side (emio device drivers) be stopped?

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Re: IBM 7060 H30 network cards

2005-11-02 Thread mark . van-der-eynden
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:21:07 -0600, Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

We have an IBM 7060 H30 that has 4 network cards.  One for OS/2, two for
prodcution z/OS LPAR, and one for test z/OS LPAR.  Last week we had to
unplug and replug the production LPAR network cables from the H30.  We did
this twice.  Both times the 7060's PC rebooted which as some of you might
know kills the S/390 processor.  We did not stop the TCP/IP stacks that
were using the interface cards.  Should we have stopped TCP/IP?  Should we
vary the even odd device addresses offline?  Should we vary the even odd
device address paths offline.  Should something on the OS/2 side (emio
device drivers) be stopped?

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Gee, maybe you want to get something fixed.

We have a 7060 H50 with a similar setup. Can't say we unplug the
Production cards much, 90% of all terminal traffic goes through them, 100%
of all print traffic and 100% of all FTP. 7060's (internal) PC was last
booted over a year ago (when the system was moved). The internal OS/2 is
connected via a crossover cable to the OMC, which was up and down all over
the place when the move occurred, the mainframe did not miss a beat.

Mark

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