Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:38:03 -0400, John Eells wrote: >Correction! The Service and Support is also priced at zero dollars. >... But SEPARATELY priced at zero dollars. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS
Correction! The Service and Support is also priced at zero dollars. John Eells wrote: Knutson, Sam wrote: I have had some side conversations with folks outside and inside IBM because the announcement lists this as chargeable but it was understood that entitlement was to be included with z/OS. Deep Blue says... No Charge! So why the announcement letter came out with something to the contrary I have asked the z/OS Marketing folks. There seems to have been some type of a "boiler plate version" and in those preliminary notices it was clearly "N/C" . So they are thinking that it's in the configuration changes that perhaps have not caught up with the announcement Whatever..I'm still being told this is N/C! :>) It would be nice to have the announcement corrected and maybe someone from z/OS Technical Marketing could confirm here it is no charge. Say has anyone seen John Eells? (I actually have nothing to do with pricing; or, for that matter, marketing. I just happen to be my organization's liason to marketing, which is how I suppose they arrived at my job title. I'll tell you all about it at SCIDS next week.) But I'll come out to play anyway. For various internal reasons we have trouble saying "free" in announcements and things like ordering systems. If I understand it correctly, what we've got here (other than "failure to communicate") is a value-unit-priced product called z/OSMF (order number 5655-S28) with a price of...wait for it...zero dollars and zero cents per value unit. Zero times any number of value units is still zero, and zero dollars converted to any other currency is likewise still zero. [Inaccurate info removed, sorry] Talk with your account team and if they come up with a different answer please let me know. I'll also verify all this tomorrow and see whether the announcement actually needs to be corrected. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS
z/OS Management Facility is showing up in IBM's pricing system now. Both 5655-S38 (license) and 5655-S39 (subscription and support) are listed at zero dollars. (I just checked.) "Operators are standing by" (along with Shopz). Here are some more z/OS freebies available from IBM: http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2008/11/zos-freebies-revisited.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS
Knutson, Sam wrote: I have had some side conversations with folks outside and inside IBM because the announcement lists this as chargeable but it was understood that entitlement was to be included with z/OS. Deep Blue says... No Charge! So why the announcement letter came out with something to the contrary I have asked the z/OS Marketing folks. There seems to have been some type of a "boiler plate version" and in those preliminary notices it was clearly "N/C" . So they are thinking that it's in the configuration changes that perhaps have not caught up with the announcement Whatever..I'm still being told this is N/C! :>) It would be nice to have the announcement corrected and maybe someone from z/OS Technical Marketing could confirm here it is no charge. Say has anyone seen John Eells? (I actually have nothing to do with pricing; or, for that matter, marketing. I just happen to be my organization's liason to marketing, which is how I suppose they arrived at my job title. I'll tell you all about it at SCIDS next week.) But I'll come out to play anyway. For various internal reasons we have trouble saying "free" in announcements and things like ordering systems. If I understand it correctly, what we've got here (other than "failure to communicate") is a value-unit-priced product called z/OSMF (order number 5655-S28) with a price of...wait for it...zero dollars and zero cents per value unit. Zero times any number of value units is still zero, and zero dollars converted to any other currency is likewise still zero. However, service and support for z/OSMF (a different order number, one digit higher, 5655-S29) *does* have a charge associated with it. Talk with your account team and if they come up with a different answer please let me know. I'll also verify all this tomorrow and see whether the announcement actually needs to be corrected. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS
I have had some side conversations with folks outside and inside IBM because the announcement lists this as chargeable but it was understood that entitlement was to be included with z/OS. Deep Blue says... No Charge! So why the announcement letter came out with something to the contrary I have asked the z/OS Marketing folks. There seems to have been some type of a "boiler plate version" and in those preliminary notices it was clearly "N/C" . So they are thinking that it's in the configuration changes that perhaps have not caught up with the announcement Whatever..I'm still being told this is N/C! :>) It would be nice to have the announcement corrected and maybe someone from z/OS Technical Marketing could confirm here it is no charge. Say has anyone seen John Eells? Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:sknut...@geico.com (office) 301.986.3574 (cell) 301.996.1318 "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS I thought this was an interesting announcement this morning and one I am looking forward to learning more about at SHARE in Denver! After the disappointment I had with the z/OS Management Console I am cautiously optimistic and very curious to see this. IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS z/OS page with links to announcement http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/ This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:06 -0400, Knutson, Sam wrote: > A large portion of the z/OS Management Facility application is written > in Java(tm), and therefore, is eligible for the System z Application > Assist Processor (zAAP). I hadn't looked at the V1.11 announcement before this, and just noticed the "zAAP on zIIP" support. Is there any reason to buy a zAAP now? -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS
I thought this was an interesting announcement this morning and one I am looking forward to learning more about at SHARE in Denver! After the disappointment I had with the z/OS Management Console I am cautiously optimistic and very curious to see this. IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS z/OS page with links to announcement http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/ Announcement http://tinyurl.com/pmzjgv http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an &appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum=ENUS209-241&open&cm_mmc=5291-_-n -_-vrm_newsletter-_-10577_125657&cmibm_em=dm:0:18221033#h2-tcx The IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 (5655-S28) is a new product for z/OS that provides support for a modern, Web-browser-based management console for z/OS. The z/OS Management Facility is intended to enable system programmers to more easily manage and administer a mainframe system by simplifying day-to-day operations and administration of a z/OS system. More than just a graphical user interface, the z/OS Management Facility is intelligent, with designs toward addressing the needs of a diversified skilled workforce and maximizing their productivity. Automated tasks can help reduce the learning curve and improve productivity. In addition, embedded active user assistance (such as wizards) guides users through tasks and helps provide simplified operations. The initial release of the z/OS Management Facility provides the foundation for platform simplification. Existing user interfaces such as ISPF, operator commands, and others will continue to be supported and coexist with the z/OS Management Facility. A large portion of the z/OS Management Facility application is written in Java(tm), and therefore, is eligible for the System z Application Assist Processor (zAAP). In addition, portions of z/OS Management Facility workload are planned to be eligible for the IBM System z Integrated Information Processor (zIIP) as well. Some functions in z/OS Management Facility use the Common Information Model (CIM) set of industry standards to communicate with z/OS subsystems and starting with z/OS V1.11, the z/OS CIM server processing is eligible to run on the zIIP. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:sknut...@geico.com (office) 301.986.3574 (cell) 301.996.1318 "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
