Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
Hmmm. I'm not a storage administrator, but I thought that one of the reasons to allocate a data set as extended was so that the allocation *could* exceed the size of any one volume in the storage group by striping the pieces to fit on the selected volumes. No? And, for what it's worth, SMS L2 confirmed that OA20446 should correct the problem that I described in a prior post about this. Larre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
Perhaps I have a basic miss understaning. Am I limited to the size of the volume for the primary allocation. I was thinking I could allocate say 2gig as an initial allocation with Idcams and the system would allocate the space accross the needed volumes? That's why I had an initial allocation greater than one volume Thanks, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
You have a basic misunderstanding. MVS will attempt to allocate the Primary in as many as 5 extents. If not enough space exists on a single volume to honor that request then the allocation fails. From: Dave Guthrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 7/2/2007 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate Perhaps I have a basic miss understaning. Am I limited to the size of the volume for the primary allocation. I was thinking I could allocate say 2gig as an initial allocation with Idcams and the system would allocate the space accross the needed volumes? That's why I had an initial allocation greater than one volume Thanks, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
Unless you take advantage of SCR (Space Constraint Relief) in SMS via the dataclass. Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg (602) 977-5154 WARNING: All email sent to or from this address will be received by the Charles Schwab corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate You have a basic misunderstanding. MVS will attempt to allocate the Primary in as many as 5 extents. If not enough space exists on a single volume to honor that request then the allocation fails. From: Dave Guthrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 7/2/2007 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate Perhaps I have a basic miss understaning. Am I limited to the size of the volume for the primary allocation. I was thinking I could allocate say 2gig as an initial allocation with Idcams and the system would allocate the space accross the needed volumes? That's why I had an initial allocation greater than one volume Thanks, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
I am getting the IDG17272I message when attempting to a primary allocation using IDCAMS of more than one 3390 DASD volume on a flex-es system running z/OS 1.6. I’ve set up data class with the extended attribute. I am able to allocate less than a full volume with no problem. I don’t see where the problem is, but I think it must be something simple. DETAILED ERROR messages: IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT IGD17290I THERE WERE 1 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE FIRST 1 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION. THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:DBCLASS IGD17279I 1 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ONLINE IGD17279I 3 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE IGD17219I UNABLE TO CONTINUE DEFINE OF DATA SET My IDCAMS commands are: DEFINE CLUSTER - (NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT) - DATACLASS(DBCLASS) - STORCLAS(DBCLASS) - KEYS(8 0) - RECORDSIZE(600 2043) - SHAREOPTIONS(2 3) - SPEED) - DATA(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.D) - CYLINDERS(3999 005) - FREESPACE(0 10) - CISZ(4096)) - INDEX(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.I)) DATA(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.D) - CYLINDERS(3999 005) - FREESPACE(0 10) - CISZ(4096)) - INDEX(NAME(SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT.I)) The data class definition: DBCLASS CDS Name . . . : SYS1.SCDS.DATA Data Class Name : DBCLASS Recfm . . . . . . . . . : Lrecl . . . . . . . . . : Space Avgrec . . . . . . : Avg Value . . . . : Primary . . . . . : Secondary . . . . : Directory . . . . : Retpd Or Expdt . . . . . : Volume Count . . . . . . : 3 Add'l Volume Amount . . : Data Set Name Type . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . : REQUIRED Extended Addressability : YES Record Access Bias . . : USER Space Constraint Relief . : NO I have stet up in SMS: DATACLAS TSODWG.SMS.CNTL BUILDDCR ADCDMST 2007/06/25 MGMTCLAS --- -- - STORCLAS TSODWG.SMS.CNTL BUILDSCR ADCDMST 2007/04/23 STORGRP TSODWG.SMS.CNTL BUILDSGR ADCDMST 2007/04/23 11:05 Here is the SMS status: D SMS,STORGRP(DBCLASS),LISTVOL RESPONSE=ADCD IGD002I 09:51:34 DISPLAY SMS 956 STORGRP TYPESYSTEM= 1 DBCLASS POOL+ VOLUME UNITSYSTEM= 1 STORGRP NAM OS3P8A + DBCLASS SMSACA 0ACA+ DBCLASS SMSADA 0ADA+ DBCLASS SMSAD8 0AD8+ DBCLASS * LEGEND * . THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS NOT DEFINED TO THE SYSTEM + THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS ENABLED - THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS DISABLED * THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS QUIESCED D THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS DISABLED FOR NEW ALLOCATIONS ONLY Q THE STORAGE GROUP OR VOLUME IS QUIESCED FOR NEW ALLOCATIONS ONLY Abend Message in jobstream: 09.37.21 JOB08215 IGD17272I VOLUME SELECTION HAS FAILED FOR INSUFFICIENT SPACE F 943 DATA SET SMS.DLS.BIGTEXT.TEXT 943 JOBNAME (SDBDEF2 ) STEPNAME (SDBDEF ) 943 PROGNAME (IDCAMS ) DDNAME (N/A ) 943 REQUESTED SPACE QUANTITY = 3059211 KB 943 STORCLAS (DBCLASS) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (DBCLASS) 943 STORGRPS (DBCLASS ) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
Dave - What a coincidence--just last week I opened an ETR for what I suspect may be the exact same issue, except I'm using 3390-9's instead of -3's. After some initial investigation, the SMS L2 technician thinks that OA20446 may resolve the issue, but he needs to confirm that with Development. OA20446 talks about the FAST_VOLSEL SMS parameter and we do have FAST_VOLSEL turned ON, but I get the same results even if I turn it OFF. Larre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate
Dave, What model 3390 are you using? A mod-3 only has 3339 cyls, while you are = using CYLINDERS(3999 005) - Suggest you try a smaller Primary. For multi-volume files I often used cyls(300 200) which gave me an entire volume in 16 extents if it was empty and the freedom to allocate to other partially used volumes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
