Re: Idcams Listdata and ESS

2005-06-10 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Thanks all.
Indeed weird software/programmer behaviour. At least we have Astex, that
does know what is inside an ESS.

Kees.

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 In a message dated 6/9/2005 4:29:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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 RMF  cache reporting and the results of a LISTDATA STATUS command
 report a cache  size of 4,8, 12, 16, 32 GB and an NVS size of 1 GB -
 half the actual  size.
 This is because the information returned represents only the cluster  to
 which the logical control unit is attached.
 
 
 
 
 Ah, this is reminiscent of the 3880 caching control unit and its two cache

 halves.  In order to know the total workload on any given device, you had
to 
 drive the CCWs to retrieve the cache storage totals and caching
statistics 
 down two different channel paths to the device, then add the two  halves'
values 
 together.  So the 2105's reporting software follows this  same
user-unfriendly 
 philosophy.  Sure, some people want to know what each  cluster's size is.

 And many might want to know the totals for both without  having to go
through 
 the manual step of addition or without having to build a  simple SYSOUT
scanner 
 and adder program.  Sounds a lot like working as  coded.
  
 Bill Fairchild
 
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Idcams Listdata and ESS

2005-06-09 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Hello all, 
I have a problem with IDCAMS LISTDATA that I can't believe to happen, but
can't find a fix: 
IDCAMS LISTDATA STATUS consistently reports for all SSIDs on all ESS's half
of the real cache size and half of the real NVS size. This should have been
apar-ed and fixed by now, or am I the only user of LISTDATA in this century?
Where is the problem?
Kees.



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Re: Idcams Listdata and ESS

2005-06-09 Thread Frank Krueger
To have a quick answer :

The ESS is build of two clusters - each responsible for half of the
Subsystem.
Therefore it reports only half of the total values .
I know it is described - but actually not where .
Will post it when i find it.
So no bug - no apar

Frank Krueger


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Hello all,
I have a problem with IDCAMS LISTDATA that I can't believe to happen, but
can't find a fix:
IDCAMS LISTDATA STATUS consistently reports for all SSIDs on all ESS's half
of the real cache size and half of the real NVS size. This should have been
apar-ed and fixed by now, or am I the only user of LISTDATA in this
century?
Where is the problem?
Kees.



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Re: Idcams Listdata and ESS

2005-06-09 Thread Frank Krueger
Found it -

ESS cache and NVS reporting
RMF cache reporting and the results of a LISTDATA STATUS command
report a cache size of 4,8, 12, 16, 32 GB and an NVS size of 1 GB 
half the actual size.
This is because the information returned represents only the cluster to
which the logical control unit is attached.

Chapter 5.11 Performance - z/OS environment tools.
The book is IBM Total Storage Enterprise Storage Server Modell  800
Number : SG24-6424

Frank Krueger

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Re: Idcams Listdata and ESS

2005-06-09 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
In a message dated 6/9/2005 4:29:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

RMF  cache reporting and the results of a LISTDATA STATUS command
report a cache  size of 4,8, 12, 16, 32 GB and an NVS size of 1 GB 
half the actual  size.
This is because the information returned represents only the cluster  to
which the logical control unit is attached.




Ah, this is reminiscent of the 3880 caching control unit and its two cache  
halves.  In order to know the total workload on any given device, you had  to 
drive the CCWs to retrieve the cache storage totals and caching  statistics 
down two different channel paths to the device, then add the two  halves' 
values 
together.  So the 2105's reporting software follows this  same user-unfriendly 
philosophy.  Sure, some people want to know what each  cluster's size is.  
And many might want to know the totals for both without  having to go through 
the manual step of addition or without having to build a  simple SYSOUT scanner 
and adder program.  Sounds a lot like working as  coded.
 
Bill Fairchild

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