Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1214459,00.html -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
I think this has been posted before...and is pretty old. By Matt Stansberry, Site Editor 06 Sep 2006 | SearchDataCenter.com Denis. -Original Message- From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 3:12 pm Subject: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1214459,00.html -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 08:12 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. Deja vu again ???. Didn't we already go over this a while back ???. Hardly new news I wold have thought. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
Mark Zelden wrote: Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1214459,00.html -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Old news (Sept. 2006). Think this was discussed earlier here on ibm-main. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Check out the Trainer's Friend Store to purchase z/OS == == application developer toolkits. Sample code in four== == programming languages, JCL to Assemble or compile, == == bind and test. == == http://www.trainersfriend.com/TTFStore/index.html== -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
Sounds like they weren't writing too many policies.. Doug Shane wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 08:12 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. Deja vu again ???. Didn't we already go over this a while back ???. Hardly new news I wold have thought. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
If this is old news, does any one know how they have done two years on? Thank You, Joe Aulph, Senior Systems Programmer: 850-487-8945 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] IEND.COM To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes 08/27/2008 09:27 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Mark Zelden wrote: Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1214459,00.html -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Old news (Sept. 2006). Think this was discussed earlier here on ibm-main. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Check out the Trainer's Friend Store to purchase z/OS == == application developer toolkits. Sample code in four== == programming languages, JCL to Assemble or compile, == == bind and test. == == http://www.trainersfriend.com/TTFStore/index.html== -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:23:20 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't we already go over this a while back ???. Sorry. I supposed we did and I missed it or don't remember. I didn't realize the date was almost 2 years ago. Can I use I hadn't had my coffee yet as an excuse? (same excuse for a missing word in another post of mine this morning). -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
Mark Zelden wrote: Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, ... snipped ... Eric N. Bielefeld already informed IBM-MAIN on Wed, 6 Sep 2006 about this insurer, same day when SearchDataCenter published that. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
Mark, No problem - I do things like this myself - even when I have had my coffee .. :-) It was interesting though - they have bolster the ability to dynamically add servers and remove them as needed. We used to provide the same under VM , back in my VM Software days. Brian Fitzgibbon SEGUS Inc (800)-327-9650 www.segus.com http://www.segus.com/ For support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:23:20 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't we already go over this a while back ???. Sorry. I supposed we did and I missed it or don't remember. I didn't realize the date was almost 2 years ago. Can I use I hadn't had my coffee yet as an excuse? (same excuse for a missing word in another post of mine this morning). -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Korean insurer retires 7,000 MIPS mainframes
-snip--- Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1214459,00.html --unsnip-- Start the timers! let's see how long it takes them to switch back. My guess is the first time they have to deal with all the claims from a major disaster, that system will fail miserably. Not because of the CPU time; far more likely that the I/O load will kill it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES (UNCLASSIFIED)
The original article said they were IBM zSeries mainframes. Also, the software that tmsxsoft supplied to achieve this is called Openframe and TJES which emulate mainframe CICS and JCL. Seems pretty clear to me that another IBM mainframe site has bitten the dust. Jim McAlpine On 9/8/06, John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They used something called Tmaxsoft Openframe. However the news release from this vendor: http://www.tmaxsoft.com/news/news/2006_08_02.shtml Mentions nothing about what type of box it replaced. All it says is that: The legacy system had the equivalent of 7000 MIPS of capacity ... If it was an IBM mainframe with 7,000 MIPS, why didn't they just say an IBM mainframe with 7,000 MIPS? Maybe it had the equilvant 7,000 HP Superdome MIPS? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES
On 6 Sep 2006 14:02:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Kopischke, David G. wrote: Greetings, Another interesting story today on SearchDataCenter. This is the biggest one I've read about so far. Now comes the wait for the first hacker to break in and steal countless millions of dollars of information :) Are mainframe Linux applications more secure than non-mainframe? Are z/OS mainframe Websphere applications more secure than the same functions in Websphere on non-mainframes or other operating systems? How secure are some of the old CICS applications against an attacker that knows CICS but not the individual applications? Mickey -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark F Morris Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES snip Are mainframe Linux applications more secure than non-mainframe? Assuming that the Linux application is not inherently insecure, I bet they are. The reason is that most exploits are architecture dependant. That is, they inject object code to be run. Since it is impossible to run x86 code on a zSeries, it is more secure because the code cannot be run. Also, most exploits depend as well on the stack architecture of the processor. The zSeries does not have an equivalent stack to corrupt in the same way. Now, having said that, it might be possible to create a zSeries specific virus. But it is unlikely due to the lack of targets. Are z/OS mainframe Websphere applications more secure than the same functions in Websphere on non-mainframes or other operating systems? Good question. I don't know. I would guess that it is likely to depend on the application design and the underlying security architecture of the processor and OS. z/OS is generally far more secure in its design that UNIX or Windows. How secure are some of the old CICS applications against an attacker that knows CICS but not the individual applications? I would __guess__ that they are very secure. I cannot envision any way to inject code into a CICS application that would actually do something other than crash the CICS region (at worst). Most exploits are to get enhanced capabilities. This simply cannot be done in CICS. There is no way to change from user A to superuser in CICS. Again, this assumes that the application cannot be compromised due to a coding error. The likelyhood of an outsider to have the time to mess around trying to find such an error is very slight. But they are there. I remember one where a user pressed an unexpected PF key and bypassed some processing. This resulted in an abend two transactions later because a temp storage queue had not been properly created. But, again, this did not result Mickey -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES snip Now, having said that, it might be possible to create a zSeries specific virus. But it is unlikely due to the lack of targets. snip It has already been done. It is for this reason that production control should do their OWN compiles and links into the PRODUCTION load libraries which are WRITE enabled for only a limited number of IDs while all others have read only authority (or execute only). Methodology of PC virii was examined and then an attempt to do similar behaviors with the S/370 instruction set was attempted. It was found that a virus could pre-fix a load module, get executed and spread to other modules in that load library. When I read about this back about 1992 I was blown away. I have forgotten who it was that did this, and what specific O/S was used (I thought it was MVS/SP2, but memory is a bit hazy now). Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE The number $20 MIL over for and then $10 Mil per year .. I wonder what percentage is Software cost.That is what is prohibiting the MF from dominating as it should med to large companies. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kopischke, David G. Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES Greetings, Another interesting story today on SearchDataCenter. This is the biggest one I've read about so far. Thanks, Dave K. === KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES | Matt Stansberry, Site Editor Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract, and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://go.techtarget.com/r/514132/279318 --or-- http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gc i1214459,00.html?track=NL-576ad=563694asrc=EM_NLT_514132uid=279318 -- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. OppenheimerFunds may, at its sole discretion, monitor, review, retain and/or disclose the content of all email communications. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES (UNCLASSIFIED)
They used something called Tmaxsoft Openframe. However the news release from this vendor: http://www.tmaxsoft.com/news/news/2006_08_02.shtml Mentions nothing about what type of box it replaced. All it says is that: The legacy system had the equivalent of 7000 MIPS of capacity ... If it was an IBM mainframe with 7,000 MIPS, why didn't they just say an IBM mainframe with 7,000 MIPS? Maybe it had the equilvant 7,000 HP Superdome MIPS? Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE The number $20 MIL over for and then $10 Mil per year .. I wonder what percentage is Software cost.That is what is prohibiting the MF from dominating as it should med to large companies. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Of Kopischke, David G. Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES Greetings, Another interesting story today on SearchDataCenter. This is the biggest one I've read about so far. Thanks, Dave K. === KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES | Matt Stansberry, Site Editor Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract, and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://go.techtarget.com/r/514132/279318 --or-- http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gc i1214459,00.html?track=NL-576ad=563694asrc=EM_NLT_514132uid=279318 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES
Greetings, Another interesting story today on SearchDataCenter. This is the biggest one I've read about so far. Thanks, Dave K. === KOREAN INSURER RETIRES 7,000 MIPS MAINFRAMES | Matt Stansberry, Site Editor Korean insurer Samsung Life Insurance shut down its IBM zSeries mainframes, shifting a 7,000 MIPS workload, including loan, contract, and payment systems to two HP Itanium 2-based Superdomes running HP-UX. http://go.techtarget.com/r/514132/279318 --or-- http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gc i1214459,00.html?track=NL-576ad=563694asrc=EM_NLT_514132uid=279318 -- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. OppenheimerFunds may, at its sole discretion, monitor, review, retain and/or disclose the content of all email communications. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
