Re: LPServe dynamic allocation

2007-08-22 Thread Gerard Brul
Thanks Ulrich for this reply.

Thus far I was only using the supplied example in SEZAINST which helds a lot
of comment but nothing about UNIT and VOLUME.

So I did add UNIT and VOLUME in the TCPDATA definitions, but indeed that is
the wrong place to do so.

Thanks for the reading of the manual and of course everything always comes
back on RTFM.

Everything works fine now.

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LPServe dynamic allocation

2007-08-21 Thread Gerard Brul
In the LPServe started task there will be a lot of dynamic allocations 
during the receiving of data that must be printed using the JES2 spool.

These dynamic allocations are done randomly on our attached dasd.

Does anybody know a way of allocating these temporary files on a dedicated 
volume? In the z/os SMTP environment are special configuration methods 
available. I can not find these regarding the LPServe (LPD) environment.

We do not use SMS.

Regards


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Re: LPServe dynamic allocation

2007-08-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
We do not use SMS.

You should.
It would be easy, then.

I implemented SMS in the early 1990's, warts and all.

17 years later, it's much better.
And, it works.

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Re: LPServe dynamic allocation

2007-08-21 Thread Gerard Brul
It will not be easy to install SMS right away, nobody else a diffrent solution?

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Re: LPServe dynamic allocation

2007-08-21 Thread Ulrich Krueger
OK, Gerard, help me out here ... I'm not into LPSERVE myself.
These dynamically allocated datasets are going to be of what type: 
- true temporary datasets (similar to DSN=TEMP1) or 
- short-time permanent, cataloged datasets (DSN=LPSERVE.X.Y.Z)?

If they're true temp. datasets, then they should go to your disks mounted
with the PUBLIC attribute.
If they're permanent datasets, then they'll go to disks mounted with the
STORAGE attribute. 
And if your shop doesn't use SMS or any other disk allocation manager (like
PROSMS, used be known as STOP/X37) then there's no easy way that I know of
to segregate LPSERVE datasets from the rest of the storage-mounted disks.
Of course, you could I/O configure a group of disks with a different UNIT
name ... but how do you tell LPSERVE to allocate to UNIT=MYDISK?
Are you sure, there's no LPSERVE configuration parameter?

Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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It will not be easy to install SMS right away, nobody else a diffrent
solution?

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Re: LPServe dynamic allocation

2007-08-21 Thread McKown, John
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 It will not be easy to install SMS right away, nobody else a 
 diffrent solution?
 

Well, yes I know of some ways. But they are, in my opinion, more
difficult to write and maintain than implementing SMS for this. The
methods are to use exits.

The first exit that comes to mind is the IGGPRE00 exit. This is DADSM
allocation preselection. The exit would examine the jobname (LPSERVE).
If not LPSERVE, then rc=0. Otherwise, look at the selected DASD volser.
If you don't like it, then return RC=8 with with a reason code of
X'47B0'. How to determine is up to you. We had this many years ago and
it did a RACROUTE to see if the user had READ access to a RACF profile
protecting the volume. If it did, then the volume was acceptable. If
not, then try again. If the exit denies every volume passed to it,
then allocation fails.

The second exit which comes to mind is IEFDB401. This is the dynamic
allocation validation exit. This exit could be used to modify the SVC 99
parameter list. What would be possible would be to create a special
ESOTERIC unitname for LPSERVE to use. Look at the SVC 99 parm list and
if the UNIT= parameter is specified, change it to your ESOTERIC. If you
don't find a text unit for the UNIT= parameter, add one using your
ESOTERIC. This does require a ESOTERIC just for this function and that
the appropriate DASD volumes be on the addresses assigned to this
ESOTERIC. Another possibility would be to add a text unit specifying the
VOL=SER parameter, forcing all allocations to a single volume, hard
coded.

Off hand, that's all that I can think of. Really, implementing a minimal
SMS environment is much easier and safer than doing any of the above,
honestly.

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Re: LPServe dynamic allocation

2007-08-21 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Gerard,
Following up on my earlier post ... that kept me thinking, so I started
reading ...
The z/OS 1.7 Comm Server IP Configuration Reference, Chapter 25 Remote Print
Server (LPD) contains a description of the LPDDATA control dataset and its
parameters. In there, I can find a UNIT and a VOLUME parameter.
See
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B451/2.20?SHE
LF=F1A1BK61DT=20060127182800

Isn't that what you are looking for?
Or are you looking at some other process?

Regards,
Ulrich Krueger


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Subject: LPServe dynamic allocation

In the LPServe started task there will be a lot of dynamic allocations 
during the receiving of data that must be printed using the JES2 spool.

These dynamic allocations are done randomly on our attached dasd.

Does anybody know a way of allocating these temporary files on a dedicated 
volume? In the z/os SMTP environment are special configuration methods 
available. I can not find these regarding the LPServe (LPD) environment.

We do not use SMS.

Regards


Gerard Brul

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