Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/06/2006
   at 01:51 PM, Steve Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Besides ALC, where are PL/I and RPG II.

I know PL/I. I will only admit to RPG under duress, and it doesn't
count if my lawyer isn't present.
 
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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 02/06/2006
   at 02:06 PM, "Porowski, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Is this what we have to look forward to?

What? People who believe that CICS, DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL and IBM
Utilities are programming languages? Considering the number of
advertisements that I've seen that applied the term "systems
programmer" when what they were looking for was an applications
programmer or a systems analyst, I'm not surprised. People[1] sling
buzz words around without the vaguest conception of what they mean.

[1] Some of whom call themselves systems programmers :-(
 
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Re: HP annual report (was: Mainframe Programmer on EBay)

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 2/6/2006 9:59:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

"The  best way to steer a company toward growth is to look out four or five  
years at the big market trends evolving, and then work backward to  identify 
opportunities...   There will be continued movement  toward a lower cost, 
industry-standard, distributed computing environment  and a shift away from 
mainframe computing".



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Isn't this identically what Garner said 20 years  ago?

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Re: HP annual report (was: Mainframe Programmer on EBay)

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Salt
> 
> > > Rare Mainframe programmer in near mint condition!!!
> > > A rare find in the IT world!
> 
> He may as well try for the big bucks while he can, as it 
> looks like he won't be needed soon. The CEO and President of 
> Hewlett-Packard made the following comment in the opening 
> statement of this years annual report:
> 
> "The best way to steer a company toward growth is to look out 
> four or five years at the big market trends evolving, and 
> then work backward to identify opportunities...  
> There will be continued movement toward a lower cost, 
> industry-standard, distributed computing environment and a 
> shift away from mainframe computing".

Another way to say it:  "... continued movement into the sea of mediocrity
and away from islands of stability and reliability," driven by the eternal
quest for instant gratification.

Remember that even the pioneer seafarers eventually returned to land.

> Does this mean HP is going to stop making mainframes?;-)

More likely they will *start* making them  :-)

-jc-

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Re: HP annual report (was: Mainframe Programmer on EBay)

[Timothy Sipples]

>He may as well try for the big bucks while he can, as it looks like he 
won't 
>be needed soon. The CEO and President of Hewlett-Packard made the 
following 
>comment in the opening statement of this years annual report:
>"The best way to steer a company toward growth is to look out four or 
five 
>years at the big market trends evolving, and then work backward to 
identify 
>opportunities...   There will be continued movement toward a lower cost, 
>industry-standard, distributed computing environment and a shift away 
from 
>mainframe computing".
>Does this mean HP is going to stop making mainframes?;-)

"Continued movement"? Didn't IBM just announce its best mainframe revenue 
quarter since 1998 (the year of great Y2K preparation)? (Mainframes cost 
less than they did in 1998, by the way.) When is this movement going to 
start?

Darn that pesky IBM, investing billions year after year to 
deliver the industry's premier business servers year after year. Haven't 
they heard that what customers really want are systems that require little 
or no R&D expense?

I'd also be interested to know why HP recently *entered* the mainframe 
outsourcing business. My best guess is that HP identified an opportunity. 
Better not tell the CEO. :-)

And yet another reminder: I do not speak for IBM. Especially about HP, 
which is a fine company, truly. I appreciate the great service I get from 
my "legacy" Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 4L printer, although I confess I 
don't buy cartridges from HP.

- - - - -
Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Sebastian Welton]

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 16:28:49 -0600, Desi de la Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I don't see any operating systems conversions, smpe work or cics upgrades.
>What's up with that?

Probably because he's a mainframe programmer which as far as I can tell it
means he writes programs. Good luck to him.

Seb.

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HP annual report (was: Mainframe Programmer on EBay)

[Dave Salt]

> Rare Mainframe programmer in near mint condition!!!
> A rare find in the IT world!


He may as well try for the big bucks while he can, as it looks like he won't 
be needed soon. The CEO and President of Hewlett-Packard made the following 
comment in the opening statement of this years annual report:


"The best way to steer a company toward growth is to look out four or five 
years at the big market trends evolving, and then work backward to identify 
opportunities...   There will be continued movement toward a lower cost, 
industry-standard, distributed computing environment and a shift away from 
mainframe computing".


Does this mean HP is going to stop making mainframes?;-)

Dave Salt
SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a mainframe!
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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Ray Mullins]

I'm guessing s/he's more of an apps person, not a systems person. 

The guy/gal has chutzpah, I'll grant that.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desi de la Garza
> Sent: Monday February 06 2006 14:29
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay
> 
> I don't see any operating systems conversions, smpe work or 
> cics upgrades.
> What's up with that?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Porowski, Ken
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:06 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Mainframe Programmer on EBay
> 
> Is this what we have to look forward to?
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> Rare Mainframe programmer in near mint condition!!!
> A rare find in the IT world!
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Mainframe-programmer-in-near-mint-con
> dition_W0Q
> QitemZ7217211023QQcategoryZ184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> Take advantage of this rare opportunity to purchase a VINTAGE 
> antique mainframe programmer, a value at $150/hour!  
>  
> The REAL thing - he knows mainframe!   With over twenty years 
> of legacy
> software experience, this is a genuine programmer being 
> offered, NOT an imitation (aka - point and click baby). 
>  
> You are bidding on a technology icon,  capable of generating 
> true legacy code in the following languages (Cobol, CICS, 
> DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL, IBM
> Utilities) and much more. Please bid with confidence and good 
> luck in acquiring this rare and valuable find.
>  
> Discounts are available with long term contracts. Bigger 
> discounts for warm climates. Really big discount if there is 
> Geritol in the vending machine.
>  
> Disclaimer: I reserve the right to end this auction early.
> 

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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Desi de la Garza]

I don't see any operating systems conversions, smpe work or cics upgrades.
What's up with that?


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Porowski, Ken
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

Is this what we have to look forward to?

Ken


Rare Mainframe programmer in near mint condition!!!
A rare find in the IT world!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Mainframe-programmer-in-near-mint-condition_W0Q
QitemZ7217211023QQcategoryZ184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Take advantage of this rare opportunity to purchase a VINTAGE antique
mainframe programmer, a value at $150/hour!  
 
The REAL thing - he knows mainframe!   With over twenty years of legacy
software experience, this is a genuine programmer being offered, NOT an
imitation (aka - point and click baby). 
 
You are bidding on a technology icon,  capable of generating true legacy
code in the following languages (Cobol, CICS, DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL, IBM
Utilities) and much more. Please bid with confidence and good luck in
acquiring this rare and valuable find.
 
Discounts are available with long term contracts. Bigger discounts for
warm climates. Really big discount if there is Geritol in the vending
machine.
 
Disclaimer: I reserve the right to end this auction early.

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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Paul Hanrahan]

Going once  Going twice. Sold the project manager with thumb screws on
his desk.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Porowski, Ken
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe Programmer on EBay


Is this what we have to look forward to?

Ken


Rare Mainframe programmer in near mint condition!!!
A rare find in the IT world!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Mainframe-programmer-in-near-mint-condition_W0Q
QitemZ7217211023QQcategoryZ184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Take advantage of this rare opportunity to purchase a VINTAGE antique
mainframe programmer, a value at $150/hour!  
 
The REAL thing - he knows mainframe!   With over twenty years of legacy
software experience, this is a genuine programmer being offered, NOT an
imitation (aka - point and click baby). 
 
You are bidding on a technology icon,  capable of generating true legacy
code in the following languages (Cobol, CICS, DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL, IBM
Utilities) and much more. Please bid with confidence and good luck in
acquiring this rare and valuable find.
 
Discounts are available with long term contracts. Bigger discounts for warm
climates. Really big discount if there is Geritol in the vending machine.
 
Disclaimer: I reserve the right to end this auction early.

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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Steve Arnett]

When did CICS, DB2, IMS, and IDMS become languages?

Besides ALC, where are PL/I and RPG II.  For that kind of money, I would 
expect those to be included, as well!


Porowski, Ken wrote:


Is this what we have to look forward to?

Ken




You are bidding on a technology icon,  capable of generating true legacy
code in the following languages (Cobol, CICS, DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL, IBM
Utilities) and much more. Please bid with confidence and good luck in
acquiring this rare and valuable find.

 



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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Richard Tsujimoto]

Maybe a sexy picture will result in more bids (or maybe not).

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Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Porowski, Ken
> 
> Is this what we have to look forward to?
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> Rare Mainframe programmer in near mint condition!!!
> A rare find in the IT world!
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Mainframe-programmer-in-near-mint-con
> dition_W0Q
> QitemZ7217211023QQcategoryZ184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

What??  No Assembler???

-jc-

> 
> Take advantage of this rare opportunity to purchase a VINTAGE 
> antique mainframe programmer, a value at $150/hour!  
>  
> The REAL thing - he knows mainframe!   With over twenty years 
> of legacy
> software experience, this is a genuine programmer being 
> offered, NOT an imitation (aka - point and click baby). 
>  
> You are bidding on a technology icon,  capable of generating 
> true legacy code in the following languages (Cobol, CICS, 
> DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL, IBM
> Utilities) and much more. Please bid with confidence and good 
> luck in acquiring this rare and valuable find.
>  
> Discounts are available with long term contracts. Bigger 
> discounts for warm climates. Really big discount if there is 
> Geritol in the vending machine.
>  
> Disclaimer: I reserve the right to end this auction early.
> 
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Mainframe Programmer on EBay

[Porowski, Ken]

Is this what we have to look forward to?

Ken


Rare Mainframe programmer in near mint condition!!!
A rare find in the IT world!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Mainframe-programmer-in-near-mint-condition_W0Q
QitemZ7217211023QQcategoryZ184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Take advantage of this rare opportunity to purchase a VINTAGE antique
mainframe programmer, a value at $150/hour!  
 
The REAL thing - he knows mainframe!   With over twenty years of legacy
software experience, this is a genuine programmer being offered, NOT an
imitation (aka - point and click baby). 
 
You are bidding on a technology icon,  capable of generating true legacy
code in the following languages (Cobol, CICS, DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL, IBM
Utilities) and much more. Please bid with confidence and good luck in
acquiring this rare and valuable find.
 
Discounts are available with long term contracts. Bigger discounts for
warm climates. Really big discount if there is Geritol in the vending
machine.
 
Disclaimer: I reserve the right to end this auction early.

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