Managing WLM manged initiators
Hi, We’ve started using WLM managed initiators. Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, and even per system. The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per system? Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
""??? ?? ???"" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > We've started using WLM managed initiators. > > Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, and even per system. > The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. > Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per system? > > Thanks > > Gadi > See the $DSRVCLASS command to display the current limits set by WLM and used by JES2. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators ""??? ?? ???"" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > We've started using WLM managed initiators. > > Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, and even per system. > The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. > Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per system? > > Thanks > > Gadi > See the $DSRVCLASS command to display the current limits set by WLM and used by JES2. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
> > Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, and even per system. > The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. > Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per system? >> > Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command. > Gadi - In JES2 it is always a command whether there is an panel interface with it or not. So, the question I have is - what specifically are your needs? Operations, end user, audit process and control? Automation? For example, with OPS/MVS you could devise a process. Or if you use Tivoli, then it may already be built-in. It would help to know your requirements for such an interface. Currently SDSF has a panel. Perhaps that is not what your needs require? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
I am looking for something I can show the operators. CA-SYSVIEW doesn't have it. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators > > Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators > per class, and even per system. > The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. > Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values > per system? >> > Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command. > Gadi - In JES2 it is always a command whether there is an panel interface with it or not. So, the question I have is - what specifically are your needs? Operations, end user, audit process and control? Automation? For example, with OPS/MVS you could devise a process. Or if you use Tivoli, then it may already be built-in. It would help to know your requirements for such an interface. Currently SDSF has a panel. Perhaps that is not what your needs require? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
> I am looking for something I can show the operators. > CA-SYSVIEW doesn't have it. > > Gadi > > > > Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators > > per > class, and even per system. > > The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC > command. > > Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values > > per > system? > >> > > > Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command. > > > Gadi, In the SYSVIEW USER's guide there is a section on how to build your own display function. See if that will help. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:44:09 +0300, גדי בן אבי wrote: >Hi, > >Weve started using WLM managed initiators. > >Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, >and even per system. >The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. >Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per >system? > I don't understand what you are looking for. $DJOBCLASS(*),LONG $DSRVCLASS(*),LONG $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQCOUT=n And all can be displayed and change with the SDSF JC command as you wrote. XEQMEMBER takes a JES2 command to change (unless that was added in z/OS 1.12) $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQMEMBER(abc)=(MAXIMUM=n) Isn't SDSF a utility? Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
Yes, SDSF is a utility, but it doesn’t do everything I am looking for. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 5:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:44:09 +0300, גדי בן אבי wrote: >Hi, > >We’ve started using WLM managed initiators. > >Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, >and even per system. >The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. >Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per >system? > I don't understand what you are looking for. $DJOBCLASS(*),LONG $DSRVCLASS(*),LONG $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQCOUT=n And all can be displayed and change with the SDSF JC command as you wrote. XEQMEMBER takes a JES2 command to change (unless that was added in z/OS 1.12) $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQMEMBER(abc)=(MAXIMUM=n) Isn't SDSF a utility? Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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> Yes, SDSF is a utility, but it doesn't do everything I am looking for. > > Gadi > > >Hi, > > > >We've started using WLM managed initiators. > > > >Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, > and even per system. > >The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. > >Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per system? > > > > I don't understand what you are looking for. > > $DJOBCLASS(*),LONG > $DSRVCLASS(*),LONG > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQCOUT=n > > And all can be displayed and change with the SDSF JC command as you wrote. > XEQMEMBER > takes a JES2 command to change (unless that was added in z/OS 1.12) > > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQMEMBER(abc)=(MAXIMUM=n) > > Isn't SDSF a utility? > > Mark Gadi, Can you tell us exactly what SDSF does not do? If you can give us more details perhaps we can help. If you want something in SYSVIEW then I would contact CA. I have always found them very helpful when I try to build functions. They may have something built, or they might help you build it. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi, I have an issue open with CA. I would like to: 1. See the value of XEQCOUNT MAXIMUM 2. be able to change the value of XEQCOUNT MAXIMUM 3. be able to see the value XEQMEMBER(xx)=(MAXIMUM for each member is the sysplex 4. be able to change the value XEQMEMBER(xx)=(MAXIMUM for each member is the sysplex This first two are possible in SDSF. In SYSVIEW, only the first option is available. The filed cannot be updated. Options 3 and 4 are not possible in either SDSF or SYSVIEW. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators > Yes, SDSF is a utility, but it doesn't do everything I am looking for. > > Gadi > > >Hi, > > > >We've started using WLM managed initiators. > > > >Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators > >per class, > and even per system. > >The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command. > >Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values > >per system? > > > > I don't understand what you are looking for. > > $DJOBCLASS(*),LONG > $DSRVCLASS(*),LONG > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQCOUT=n > > And all can be displayed and change with the SDSF JC command as you wrote. > XEQMEMBER > takes a JES2 command to change (unless that was added in z/OS 1.12) > > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQMEMBER(abc)=(MAXIMUM=n) > > Isn't SDSF a utility? > > Mark Gadi, Can you tell us exactly what SDSF does not do? If you can give us more details perhaps we can help. If you want something in SYSVIEW then I would contact CA. I have always found them very helpful when I try to build functions. They may have something built, or they might help you build it. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
Gadi, Then the question comes up: why do you want to change those values? You will be manually interfering in the WLM algorithmes to manage your batch and the systems in the sysplex in the most optimal way and according to your the Goals you set. What do you want to achieve with limiting WLM in this? Kees. ""??? ?? ???"" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > I have an issue open with CA. > I would like to: > 1. See the value of XEQCOUNT MAXIMUM > 2. be able to change the value of XEQCOUNT MAXIMUM > 3. be able to see the value XEQMEMBER(xx)=(MAXIMUM for each member is the sysplex > 4. be able to change the value XEQMEMBER(xx)=(MAXIMUM for each member is the sysplex > > This first two are possible in SDSF. > In SYSVIEW, only the first option is available. The filed cannot be updated. > Options 3 and 4 are not possible in either SDSF or SYSVIEW. > > Gadi > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators > > > Yes, SDSF is a utility, but it doesn't do everything I am looking for. > > > > Gadi > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >We've started using WLM managed initiators. > > > > > >Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators > > >per > class, > > and even per system. > > >The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC > command. > > >Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values > > >per > system? > > > > > > > I don't understand what you are looking for. > > > > $DJOBCLASS(*),LONG > > $DSRVCLASS(*),LONG > > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQCOUT=n > > > > And all can be displayed and change with the SDSF JC command as you wrote. > > XEQMEMBER > > takes a JES2 command to change (unless that was added in z/OS 1.12) > > > > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQMEMBER(abc)=(MAXIMUM=n) > > > > Isn't SDSF a utility? > > > > Mark > > Gadi, > Can you tell us exactly what SDSF does not do? > > If you can give us more details perhaps we can help. > > If you want something in SYSVIEW then I would contact CA. I have always found them very helpful when I try to build functions. They may have something built, or they might help you build it. > > Lizette > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ? ???, ? ? ? ??? ?? ??, ?? , ?? ??? ?, ??? ? ?? ??? ? ?? ?? ?, ? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? ??? ? ?. ? ? (? ) ?? ?? ???, ??? ? ? ?? ??? ? ?, > ?? ?? ? ? ?? ?? ?. > > > Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, > unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Because sometimes the client says that they want to see n number of jobs in a certain class running. We know that it might not be the best thing, but the client is always right. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators Gadi, Then the question comes up: why do you want to change those values? You will be manually interfering in the WLM algorithmes to manage your batch and the systems in the sysplex in the most optimal way and according to your the Goals you set. What do you want to achieve with limiting WLM in this? Kees. ""??? ?? ???"" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > I have an issue open with CA. > I would like to: > 1. See the value of XEQCOUNT MAXIMUM > 2. be able to change the value of XEQCOUNT MAXIMUM 3. be able to see > the value XEQMEMBER(xx)=(MAXIMUM for each member is the sysplex > 4. be able to change the value XEQMEMBER(xx)=(MAXIMUM for each member is the sysplex > > This first two are possible in SDSF. > In SYSVIEW, only the first option is available. The filed cannot be updated. > Options 3 and 4 are not possible in either SDSF or SYSVIEW. > > Gadi > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators > > > Yes, SDSF is a utility, but it doesn't do everything I am looking for. > > > > Gadi > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >We've started using WLM managed initiators. > > > > > >Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators > > >per > class, > > and even per system. > > >The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC > command. > > >Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values > > >per > system? > > > > > > > I don't understand what you are looking for. > > > > $DJOBCLASS(*),LONG > > $DSRVCLASS(*),LONG > > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQCOUT=n > > > > And all can be displayed and change with the SDSF JC command as you wrote. > > XEQMEMBER > > takes a JES2 command to change (unless that was added in z/OS 1.12) > > > > $TJOBCLASS(n),XEQMEMBER(abc)=(MAXIMUM=n) > > > > Isn't SDSF a utility? > > > > Mark > > Gadi, > Can you tell us exactly what SDSF does not do? > > If you can give us more details perhaps we can help. > > If you want something in SYSVIEW then I would contact CA. I have always found them very helpful when I try to build functions. They may have something built, or they might help you build it. > > Lizette > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ? ???, ? ? ? ??? ?? ??, ?? , ?? ??? ?, ??? ? ?? ??? ? ?? ?? ?, ? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? ??? ? ?. ? ? (? ) ?? ?? ???, ??? ? ? ?? ??? ? ?, > ?? ?? ? ? ?? ?? ?. > > > Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, > unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and d
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
>Because sometimes the client says that they want to see n number of jobs in a >certain class running. >We know that it might not be the best thing, but the client is always right. You need to convince them (if you can) that performance experts know better. Having more jobs in a class than the WLM has determined optimum: 1. Can lead to over-initiation. 2. Doesn't guarantee the class throughput will improve. 3. Can impact other classes, or workloads. As long as service levels are met, all else is secondary. PS: What happens if there aren't "N" jobs in the system? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Believe me, we've tried, but they 'know best' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators >Because sometimes the client says that they want to see n number of jobs in a >certain class running. >We know that it might not be the best thing, but the client is always right. You need to convince them (if you can) that performance experts know better. Having more jobs in a class than the WLM has determined optimum: 1. Can lead to over-initiation. 2. Doesn't guarantee the class throughput will improve. 3. Can impact other classes, or workloads. As long as service levels are met, all else is secondary. PS: What happens if there aren't "N" jobs in the system? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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What does your contract say? If there's nothing in it about "N" jobs, then tell them you are going to enforce it. If there is, or it's ambiguous, you're out of luck. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: גדי בן אבי Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:23:38 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators Believe me, we've tried, but they 'know best' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators >Because sometimes the client says that they want to see n number of jobs in a >certain class running. >We know that it might not be the best thing, but the client is always right. You need to convince them (if you can) that performance experts know better. Having more jobs in a class than the WLM has determined optimum: 1. Can lead to over-initiation. 2. Doesn't guarantee the class throughput will improve. 3. Can impact other classes, or workloads. As long as service levels are met, all else is secondary. PS: What happens if there aren't "N" jobs in the system? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Managing WLM manged initiators
Then, the easiest way to guarantee N jobs running concurrently is going back to JES2 managed jobclasses and start N initiators. The N jobs will run, but not necessaraly perform. But if that's what they want... Kees. ""??? ?? ???"" wrote in message news:... > Believe me, we've tried, but they 'know best' > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Managing WLM manged initiators > > >Because sometimes the client says that they want to see n number of jobs in a certain class running. > >We know that it might not be the best thing, but the client is always right. > > You need to convince them (if you can) that performance experts know better. > Having more jobs in a class than the WLM has determined optimum: > 1. Can lead to over-initiation. > 2. Doesn't guarantee the class throughput will improve. > 3. Can impact other classes, or workloads. > > As long as service levels are met, all else is secondary. > > PS: What happens if there aren't "N" jobs in the system? > - > Ted MacNEIL > eamacn...@yahoo.ca > Twitter: @TedMacNEIL > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ? ???, ? ? ? ??? ?? ??, ?? , ?? ??? ?, ??? ? ?? ??? ? ?? ?? ?, ? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? ??? ? ?. ? ? (? ) ?? ?? ???, ??? ? ? ?? ??? ? ?, > ?? ?? ? ? ?? ?? ?. > > > Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, > unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
