Re: Messages and Codes (was WLM)
I absolutely agree with Radoslaw. People from other platforms have no idea there are books covering all possible messages. Concept of unique message identificator is unknown to them. When I teach new people for z/OS it is second thing I tell them. First one is that it helps to remember numbers (3390, 3270 etc) and abbreviations. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia On 4/7/06, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: Sometimes it is big help to enlight user that such thing like Messages and Codes exist. Folks experienced on other platforms usually have no idea that it is available. Been there seen that. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Messages and Codes (was WLM)
Unique message identifiers are a wonderful thing. I still don't know why their use isn't more widespread. Too much trouble, maybe? Jon snip I absolutely agree with Radoslaw. People from other platforms have no idea there are books covering all possible messages. Concept of unique message identificator is unknown to them. When I teach new people for z/OS it is second thing I tell them. First one is that it helps to remember numbers (3390, 3270 etc) and abbreviations. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Messages and Codes (was WLM)
In a recent note, McKown, John said: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:52:55 -0500 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Unique message identifiers are a wonderful thing. I still don't know why their use isn't more widespread. Too much trouble, maybe? For the same reason that there is not a COBOL messages manual. All messages on all other platforms are understandable by all with no futher explanation necessary or even possible. Right? Irony noted. OTOH, the availability of MC should not be used to excuse, as IBM too often does, message texts that are obscure, inadequate, misleading, or just plain wrong. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Messages and Codes (was WLM)
As I have said a lot of times that the message tells me what I did wrong if I did everything right. Bob Lawrence DBA Boscov's Dept Stores LLc -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Messages and Codes (was WLM) In a recent note, McKown, John said: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:52:55 -0500 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Unique message identifiers are a wonderful thing. I still don't know why their use isn't more widespread. Too much trouble, maybe? For the same reason that there is not a COBOL messages manual. All messages on all other platforms are understandable by all with no futher explanation necessary or even possible. Right? Irony noted. OTOH, the availability of MC should not be used to excuse, as IBM too often does, message texts that are obscure, inadequate, misleading, or just plain wrong. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Messages and Codes (was WLM)
On Apr 7, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Irony noted. OTOH, the availability of MC should not be used to excuse, as IBM too often does, message texts that are obscure, inadequate, misleading, or just plain wrong. Gil, And don't forget the COBOL people have stated that a MC for COBOL is not nesc as the messages are self descibing,. Ed -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
