Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-11 Thread Ken Porowski
There is a different link off of www.neon.com home page 

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Thompson, Steve

Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read
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Steve Thompson

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Ken Porowski

I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD

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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-11 Thread Edward Jaffe

Eric Bielefeld wrote:

Thanks for the posting.  I signed up.


Looks like they'll have their attorney present. If I could attend the 
webinar, I would probably ask him something simple like:


Will Neon agree to indemnify and hold buyer harmless from all monetary 
claims made by IBM that are directly attributable to the excess 
exploitation of Specialty Engines made possible by buyer's usage of the 
zPrime product?  If not then why not?


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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-11 Thread Blaicher, Chris
A slightly loaded, but I think a very appropriate, question.  In my opinion, if 
you cannot get that in writing, along with a pre-funded liability insurance 
policy specifically for your account for the duration of your contract to use 
Z/Prime, then I would walk away.  The reason I say pre-funded is because here 
in Texas a common occurrence is someone gets automobile insurance and pays for 
the first month and then lets the policy lapse.  In this case, I would assume 
that Neon would be good to keep up the payments, but if IBM gets on their high 
horse and wipes Neon out, then where are you?

As with most things in life, it is up to the user to determine the risk/reward 
balance and make their own choices.

The preceding is my personal opinion and does not reflect those of my employer 
or anyone else.

Chris Blaicher
Phone: 512-340-6154
Mobile: 512-627-3803

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Eric Bielefeld wrote:
 Thanks for the posting.  I signed up.

Looks like they'll have their attorney present. If I could attend the 
webinar, I would probably ask him something simple like:

Will Neon agree to indemnify and hold buyer harmless from all monetary 
claims made by IBM that are directly attributable to the excess 
exploitation of Specialty Engines made possible by buyer's usage of the 
zPrime product?  If not then why not?

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NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-10 Thread Ken Porowski
I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD

http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=1331e=328elq=afd32854d7c047509a3a5e1
65b96bd5a

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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-10 Thread Thompson, Steve
Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read
from a computer system running Windows and IE.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD

http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=3D1331e=3D328elq=3Dafd32854d7c047509
a=
3a5e1
65b96bd5a

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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld

Thanks for the posting.  I signed up.

At the last meeting of the Midwest Computer Measurement Group, which was 
held in Milwaukee a month or so ago, Al Sherkow spoke, but not on Neon 
zPrime.  He was asked a lot of questions about it during his 2 hours, and it 
was very interesting.  He does consulting work for both Neon and IBM.  He 
didn't give any definitive answers, but did point out that whatever contract 
you sign with IBM for using ZIIPs and ZAAPs is binding.  This should be 
interesting to see how this plays out.


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434


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I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD

http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=1331e=328elq=afd32854d7c047509a3a5e1
65b96bd5a 


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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Thompson, Steve wrote:

Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read
from a computer system running Windows and IE.
  


I read it using Firefox 3.5.2 under Windows XP SP3.

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