Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

On a hunch, I went to the IBM tech support site
(https://techsupport.services.ibm.com/server/zseries.srchBroker)
where I found 2 PTF's that addressed my problem with PL/I
and HFS.

But both PTF pages have this:

Applicable component levels
R703 PSY UQ91928   UP04/08/19 P F408
R705 PSY UQ91929   UP04/08/19 P F408
R706 PSY UQ91930   UP04/08/19 P F408
R707 PSY UQ91931   UP04/08/19 P F408
R708 PSY UQ91932   UP04/08/19 P F408


Select the PTF appropriate for your component level.


So, how do I select the applicable component level?
I guessed and tried the last, didn't work; then I
tried the R705 because I see I have HLE7705 FMID
(I don't even know if that's the right FMID for
PL/I, but my colleague seemed to think it is).

Anyway, the un-terse goes OK, but the receive fails
because there is no match of sysmods. Arrrh!

I'm just shooting mostly in the dark anyway, so I
come again asking for some guidance: how can I find
the correct FMID and component level so I know what
PTF to download?

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Greg Shirey
Steve, here's what I would do.  Someone else may suggest something more
elegant. 

I went to IBMLink and browsed the first PTF on your list - UQ91928.  Down at
the bottom, under  PRE-REQS/CO-REQS  it said: 
AR038   FMIDHLE7703 PRE UQ89777 ++IFFMIDHLE7705
REQ UQ91929 ++IFFMIDHLE7706 REQ UQ91930
++IFFMIDHLE7707 REQ UQ91931 ++IFFMID
HLE7708 REQ UQ91932

So, there are the possible FMID's.  I went to the SMP/E panels and selected
option 3 for QUERY, then option 2 for CROSS-ZONE Query.  Enter SYSMOD as the
ENTRY TYPE, and then just entered all of those FMID's until I found the one
that was applied and accepted on my system - HLE7707.  (the others were SUP)


HTH,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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snip
Anyway, the un-terse goes OK, but the receive fails
because there is no match of sysmods. Arrrh!

I'm just shooting mostly in the dark anyway, so I
come again asking for some guidance: how can I find
the correct FMID and component level so I know what
PTF to download?

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Dave Kopischke
Steve, here's what I would do.  Someone else may suggest something more
elegant.

I went to IBMLink and browsed the first PTF on your list - UQ91928.  Down
at
the bottom, under  PRE-REQS/CO-REQS  it said:
AR038   FMIDHLE7703 PRE UQ89777 ++IFFMIDHLE7705
REQ UQ91929 ++IFFMIDHLE7706 REQ UQ91930
++IFFMIDHLE7707 REQ UQ91931 ++IFFMID
HLE7708 REQ UQ91932

So, there are the possible FMID's.  I went to the SMP/E panels and selected
option 3 for QUERY, then option 2 for CROSS-ZONE Query.  Enter SYSMOD as
the
ENTRY TYPE, and then just entered all of those FMID's until I found the one
that was applied and accepted on my system - HLE7707.  (the others were
SUP)




I take the shotgun approach. I download all the PTF's in the APAR and the
RECEIVE will only take the one that applies to me.

For small maintenance runs, it works OK. For large ones, it can get messy.
You get at least four times the number of PTF's you would get if you just
selected the right one. But it's also a lot faster than having to try to
figure out which one applies to you.

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Gabe Torres
Steve,
  I list all the FMID'S defined in the GLOBAL.CSI and keep the listing
handy since it is referenced quite frequently. 
//S1   EXEC PGM=GIMSMP
//SMPCSI   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.GLOBAL.CSI
//SMPCNTL  DD *
  SETBOUNDARY (GLOBAL)  .
  LIST GZONE .

Then I manually compare the PTF FMID with the listing to see if it
matches any FMID in my SMPE global.

gabe  

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Subject: Need more PTF guidance

On a hunch, I went to the IBM tech support site
(https://techsupport.services.ibm.com/server/zseries.srchBroker)
where I found 2 PTF's that addressed my problem with PL/I and HFS.

But both PTF pages have this:

Applicable component levels
R703 PSY UQ91928   UP04/08/19 P F408
R705 PSY UQ91929   UP04/08/19 P F408
R706 PSY UQ91930   UP04/08/19 P F408
R707 PSY UQ91931   UP04/08/19 P F408
R708 PSY UQ91932   UP04/08/19 P F408


Select the PTF appropriate for your component level.


So, how do I select the applicable component level?
I guessed and tried the last, didn't work; then I tried the R705 because
I see I have HLE7705 FMID (I don't even know if that's the right FMID
for PL/I, but my colleague seemed to think it is).

Anyway, the un-terse goes OK, but the receive fails because there is no
match of sysmods. Arrrh!

I'm just shooting mostly in the dark anyway, so I come again asking for
some guidance: how can I find the correct FMID and component level so I
know what PTF to download?

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Steve Comstock wrote:
[snip]


I'm just shooting mostly in the dark anyway, so I
come again asking for some guidance: how can I find
the correct FMID and component level so I know what
PTF to download?



You can order PTFs by APAR number using ShopzSeries or even SUF. Both 
will use your inventory to determine the correct PTF for your 
environment. For ShopzSeries, you must generate (via a batch job) and 
upload (via the web) your inventory. For SUF it's automatic. Either way, 
it sure beats trying to figure out which FMID you're running!


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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

Greg Shirey wrote:

Steve, here's what I would do.  Someone else may suggest something more
elegant. 


I went to IBMLink and browsed the first PTF on your list - UQ91928.  Down at
the bottom, under  PRE-REQS/CO-REQS  it said: 
AR038   FMIDHLE7703 PRE UQ89777 ++IFFMIDHLE7705

REQ UQ91929 ++IFFMIDHLE7706 REQ UQ91930
++IFFMIDHLE7707 REQ UQ91931 ++IFFMID
HLE7708 REQ UQ91932

So, there are the possible FMID's.  I went to the SMP/E panels and selected
option 3 for QUERY, then option 2 for CROSS-ZONE Query.  Enter SYSMOD as the
ENTRY TYPE, and then just entered all of those FMID's until I found the one
that was applied and accepted on my system - HLE7707.  (the others were SUP)


HTH,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company



Thanks, Greg. I tried what you suggested and it looks
like HLE7703, HLE7705, HLE7706, HLE7707, and HLE7708
are all on my system.

Of course, I don't know how to interpret the listing:


To select an entry from a zone, enter S next t

 * - Entry not found in zone.
** - Zone could not be allocated or is not

    Status ---
   ZONE TYPE FMID STATUS   DATE
       ---
   CSQ531D  *
   CSQ531T  *
   GLOBAL
   MVSD   SUP
   MVST   SUP
** Bottom of data

I don't know what SUP status tells me; I just notice
the last three zones do not have an asterisk in the
TYPE field, and I interpret the * to mean Entry
not found in zone as indicated above the table. If
this is correct, then I get the same display for all
of the HLE770n values mentioned. So I'm not there
yet.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

Dave Kopischke wrote:

Steve, here's what I would do.  Someone else may suggest something more
elegant.

I went to IBMLink and browsed the first PTF on your list - UQ91928.  Down


at


the bottom, under  PRE-REQS/CO-REQS  it said:
AR038   FMIDHLE7703 PRE UQ89777 ++IFFMIDHLE7705
  REQ UQ91929 ++IFFMIDHLE7706 REQ UQ91930
  ++IFFMIDHLE7707 REQ UQ91931 ++IFFMID
  HLE7708 REQ UQ91932

So, there are the possible FMID's.  I went to the SMP/E panels and selected
option 3 for QUERY, then option 2 for CROSS-ZONE Query.  Enter SYSMOD as


the


ENTRY TYPE, and then just entered all of those FMID's until I found the one
that was applied and accepted on my system - HLE7707.  (the others were


SUP)






I take the shotgun approach. I download all the PTF's in the APAR and the
RECEIVE will only take the one that applies to me.

For small maintenance runs, it works OK. For large ones, it can get messy.
You get at least four times the number of PTF's you would get if you just
selected the right one. But it's also a lot faster than having to try to
figure out which one applies to you.


Hmmm. That seems like a lot of work, though, even for small amounts.
I have to download, upload, unterse, then recieve for all these
guys, only one of which I need. I'm not a sysprog, and never pretended
to be, and I have a much deeper appreciation for the weirdness of
your world now.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Greg Shirey
Curious.  If you put an S next to MVST on the panel you snipped below, you
might see, on the next panel, something like: 

Status: 
SUPBY   HLE7707 
  

When I do a cross-zone query on HLE7707, I see:

 Status ---

ZONE TYPE FMID STATUS   DATE TIME REWORK

       

GLOBAL

MVSD100  FUNCTION HLE7707  ACC  02.149   15:48:19 2002112

MVST100  FUNCTION HLE7707  APP  02.149   20:05:36 2002112   

If, I put an S in the column next to my target zone name (MVST100), on the
next panel, I see: 

Entry Type:  SYSMOD  Zone Name: MVST100  
Entry Name:  HLE7707 Zone Type: TARGET   
Description: Language Environment Base   

I'm on z/OS version 1.4.  YMMV. 

HTH,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company

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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:28 PM
snip 

To select an entry from a zone, enter S next t

  * - Entry not found in zone.
 ** - Zone could not be allocated or is not

 Status ---
ZONE TYPE FMID STATUS   DATE
    ---
CSQ531D  *
CSQ531T  *
GLOBAL
MVSD   SUP
MVST   SUP
** Bottom of data

I don't know what SUP status tells me; I just notice
the last three zones do not have an asterisk in the
TYPE field, and I interpret the * to mean Entry
not found in zone as indicated above the table. If
this is correct, then I get the same display for all
of the HLE770n values mentioned. So I'm not there
yet.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Dave Kopischke

Hmmm. That seems like a lot of work, though, even for small amounts.
I have to download, upload, unterse, then recieve for all these
guys, only one of which I need. I'm not a sysprog, and never pretended
to be, and I have a much deeper appreciation for the weirdness of
your world now.


Order the PTF's as a group. IBM packages them as one big file. You only do
one FTP or web download, one FTP to your target system, and one UNTERSE to
one big file of PTF's.

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

Gabe Torres wrote:

Steve,
  I list all the FMID'S defined in the GLOBAL.CSI and keep the listing
handy since it is referenced quite frequently. 
//S1   EXEC PGM=GIMSMP

//SMPCSI   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.GLOBAL.CSI
//SMPCNTL  DD *
  SETBOUNDARY (GLOBAL)  .
  LIST GZONE .

Then I manually compare the PTF FMID with the listing to see if it
matches any FMID in my SMPE global.

gabe  


Well, that's cool; I get:

GLOBAL  ZONE ENTRIES 






  NAME 




GLOBAL  UPGLEVEL= SMP/E 33.01 

OPTIONS = OPTSVSC 

ZONEINDEX = CSQ531D  DLIB CSQ531.CSQ531D.CSI 

CSQ531T  TARGET   CSQ531.CSQ531T.CSI 

MVSD DLIB MVS.MVSD.CSI 

MVST TARGET   MVS.MVST.CSI 

SREL  = Z038 


FMID  = EDU1H01 EER3500 EMI2220 ETI1106 FDU1H07 FDU1H08
HBB7709 HBCNC00 HBCND0B HBD6602 HBKM300 HBKP300
HBKQ300 HCMG110 HCM1610 HCPT360 HCRY2A0 HCR770A
HCS7708 HDZ11JH HDZ11J0 HDZ11UC HDZ11US HFST101
HFWL340 HFX1112 HGD3200 HGD3201 HIF5E02 HIMW530
HIO1104 HIP6160 HIT7709 HJE7708 HJS7708 HKYS300
HKY7708 HLB7703 HLB7708 HLB7709 HLE7709 HMB3190
HMOS705 HMP1F00 HMQ4150 HMSI707 HMSI737 HMS5200
HMS5310 HNET708 HOPI708 HOT7709 HPMG110 HPM7709
HPRT100 HPZ8500 HQX7708 HRF7709 HRM7708 HRO62A0
HRSL360 HRSS190 HSAP360 HSM1H00 HSWF100 HSWK360
HTE7709 HTV7709 HUN7709 HVT6160 HXFR100 HXFR120
HZFS360 H0GI400 H0H2360 H24P111 JBB77H9 JBD6201
JBD6202 JBKM310 JBKP310 JCPT361 JCRY2A6 JCS77H8
JDZ11JB JGD3219 JIP616K JIP616X JIP6169 JLB7713
JLB7718 JMQ415A JMS5201 JMS5206 JMS5207 JMS5311
JMS5315 JMS5316 JMS5317 JMS5318 JMS5319 JPZ8504
JRSL361 JRSL362 JRSL363 JSM1G01 JSM1H01 JSWK361
JTE77E9 JTV7738 JTV7748 JXFR121 JXFR122 JXFR123 



So obviously I mis-interpretd the output from SMP 3.2 that Greg
suggested I look at.

Thanks.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Alan C. Field
This is intersting. 

I'm surprised by the number of replys that suggest download them all and
let the system sort it out.

I'm guilty of that too - Its just too time consuming to try and figure out 
if
R1JK  or R1JL is my release.

More than once have I downloaded what I thought was the correct PTF 
only to get a failure at receive and have to repeat the process. 

More than once I have wondered why IBM doesn't just use the full FMID.

Alan

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

Edward E. Jaffe wrote:

Steve Comstock wrote:
[snip]


I'm just shooting mostly in the dark anyway, so I
come again asking for some guidance: how can I find
the correct FMID and component level so I know what
PTF to download?




You can order PTFs by APAR number using ShopzSeries or even SUF. Both 
will use your inventory to determine the correct PTF for your 
environment. For ShopzSeries, you must generate (via a batch job) and 
upload (via the web) your inventory. For SUF it's automatic. Either way, 
it sure beats trying to figure out which FMID you're running!




Sounds good. How do I get there?

I went to IBMLink; no mention of ShopzSeries nor SUF. I called
IBMLink help; he had never heard of either. I went back to the
IBMLink page; two options look possible:

 Access to ServiceLink applications page
ASAP - Automatic Software Alert Process
AST - Automatic Status Tracking
ETR - Electronic Technical Response
ESC+ - Electronic Service Call
PSP - Preventive Service Tracking
PCR - Product Cross Reference
SIS - Service Information Search
SRD - Service Request and Delivery

Access to Purchase/Upgrade tools page(Non-ServiceLink applications)
e-config - Install/update the e-config application
Inventory Services - Retrieve your IBM inventory and starting
   point for upgrade
MRReport - Confirm your current configuration
SCL - Confirm your current configuration - iSeries only
ESWPrice - Look up prices for zSeries software
Price - IBM Hardware and Software Prices
Schedules - Product availability (excluding PCs)


When I click on either page I am told I am not entitled
and I must apply for entitlement and they'll get back to
me within 2 business days.

So, we'll see.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

Dave Kopischke wrote:

Hmmm. That seems like a lot of work, though, even for small amounts.
I have to download, upload, unterse, then recieve for all these
guys, only one of which I need. I'm not a sysprog, and never pretended
to be, and I have a much deeper appreciation for the weirdness of
your world now.




Order the PTF's as a group. IBM packages them as one big file. You only do
one FTP or web download, one FTP to your target system, and one UNTERSE to
one big file of PTF's.



Great. where do I go to order a bunch?

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Jon Brock
You can access ShozSeries at 
https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/ShopzSeries/ShopzSeries.jsp 

I think you might have to wait for entitlement to use it, though.  

One caveat: I just used it to order a product for Internet delivery; if you do 
that, you must either download it to your PC (which uses a Java applet that 
doesn't work for me) or you can FTP it straight to your mainframe *if* you have 
ICSF enabled.  (We don't.)

Jon


snip
Sounds good. How do I get there?

I went to IBMLink; no mention of ShopzSeries nor SUF. I called
IBMLink help; he had never heard of either. 
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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

Greg Shirey wrote:

Curious.  If you put an S next to MVST on the panel you snipped below, you
might see, on the next panel, something like: 

Status: 
SUPBY   HLE7707 
  


When I do a cross-zone query on HLE7707, I see:

 Status ---

ZONE TYPE FMID STATUS   DATE TIME REWORK

       

GLOBAL

MVSD100  FUNCTION HLE7707  ACC  02.149   15:48:19 2002112

MVST100  FUNCTION HLE7707  APP  02.149   20:05:36 2002112   


If, I put an S in the column next to my target zone name (MVST100), on the
next panel, I see: 

Entry Type:  SYSMOD  Zone Name: MVST100  
Entry Name:  HLE7707 Zone Type: TARGET   
Description: Language Environment Base   

I'm on z/OS version 1.4.  YMMV. 


HTH,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


I get:


 Entry Type:  SYSMOD  Zone Name: MVST
 Entry Name:  HLE7707 Zone Type: TARGET
 Description:

   Type:  Status:
   FMID:  SUPBY   HLE7709
   Date/Time:



       
IF_REQ   UQ76040  UQ76040  UQ76040  UQ71263  UQ71760  UQ72579  UQ72540
 UQ85891  UQ78072  UQ78072



Ah hah!  so I go back and search on HLE7709 and get:



 * - Entry not found in zone.
** - Zone could not be allocated or is not initialized.

    Status --
   ZONE TYPE FMID STATUS   DATE TIME REWORK
         
   CSQ531D  *
   CSQ531T  *
   GLOBAL
   MVSD FUNCTION HLE7709  ACC  04.166   13:12:09 2004133
   MVST FUNCTION HLE7709  APP  04.160   23:27:53 2004133


then, Sing the last entry I get:

  Entry Type:  SYSMOD  Zone Name: MVST
  Entry Name:  HLE7709 Zone Type: TARGET
  Description: Language Environment Base

Type:FUNCTION  Status: APP   BYP
FMID:HLE7709JCLIN
Date/Time: 04.160   23:27:53   APP   REWORK   2004133



        
 NPRE HCL1100  HCL1103  HCL1200  HCL1300  HCL1310  HCL1320  HCL1400
 SUP  HLE6607  HLE6608  HLE6609  HLE7703  HLE7705  HLE7706  HLE7707
  HLE7708  HMWL110  HMWL111  HMWL210  HMWL310  HMWL410  HMWL510
  HMWL610  HMWL710  HMWL810  HMWL910  JLE66H7  JLE66H8  JLE66H9
  JLE66S7  JLE66S8  JLE77H3  JMWL11B  JMWL11C  JMWL11D  JMWL11E
  JMWL12B  JMWL12C  JMWL12D  JMWL12E  JMWL120  JMWL121  JMWL15B
  JMWL15C  JMWL15D  JMWL15E  JMWL15F  JMWL15G  JMWL150  JMWL151
  JMWL21B  JMWL21D  JMWL22B  JMWL22D  JMWL220  JMWL23B  JMWL23D
  JMWL230  JMWL25B  JMWL25D  JMWL25F  JMWL250  JMWL31B  JMWL31D
  JMWL31F  JMWL32B  JMWL32D  JMWL320  JMWL33B  JMWL33D  JMWL330
  JMWL35B  JMWL35D  JMWL35F  JMWL350  JMWL41B  JMWL41D  JMWL41F
  JMWL42B  JMWL42D  JMWL420  JMWL43B  JMWL43D  JMWL430  JMWL45B
  JMWL45D  JMWL45F  JMWL450  JMWL51B  JMWL51D  JMWL51F  JMWL52B
  JMWL52D  JMWL520  JMWL53B  JMWL53D  JMWL530  JMWL54B  JMWL54D
  JMWL540  JMWL55B  JMWL55D  JMWL55F  JMWL55H  JMWL55S  JMWL550
  JMWL61B  JMWL61D  JMWL61F  JMWL62B  JMWL62D  JMWL620  JMWL63B
  JMWL63D  JMWL630  JMWL64B  JMWL64D  JMWL640  JMWL65B  JMWL65D
  JMWL65F  JMWL65H  JMWL65S  JMWL650  JMWL71B  JMWL71D  JMWL75H
  JMWL75S  JMWL81B  JMWL81D  JMWL85H  JMWL85S  JMWL91D  JMWL95H
  JMWL95S
 DEL  HLE6607  HLE6608  HLE6609  HLE7703  HLE7705  HLE7706  HLE7707
--and lots more--

Now I'm still left with the dilema of which PTF to select, since
the applicable levels from the PTF download page says:

Applicable component levels
R703 PSY UQ91928   UP04/08/19 P F408
R705 PSY UQ91929   UP04/08/19 P F408
R706 PSY UQ91930   UP04/08/19 P F408
R707 PSY UQ91931   UP04/08/19 P F408
R708 PSY UQ91932   UP04/08/19 P F408

And now ... ?

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Dave Kopischke


Great. where do I go to order a bunch?


Well, I used to go to IBMLink, then I think it was SRD, then it would
display a section where you enter PTF numbers delimited by a space or
comma. Now I go to IBMLink and it's a new page and it says I'm not
registered. I'm afraid I'm going to have to wait two years to get that
information too.

Sorry.

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)

It looks like that APAR doesn't apply to your level.
But UQ91932 which is for level 708 is SUPed by UQ92378
which shows UQ92379 for level 709 which is SUPed by UK02624,
so you may be able to fix your problem by putting on UK02624 or UQ92369

Should be UQ92379 at the end of that last sentence




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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Alan C. Field
None of them.

The F408 says these PTFs were released in the 2004 08 maintenance..

I would think it was either incorporated in the base level code in which 
case
no PTF is required, or it got missed and is described and fixed under a 
differnet 
APAR/PTF combination, or you have discovered a new problem or this isn't 
the
problem you are having.

Alan

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Comstock

George Young wrote:
That is a PL/I runtime PTF, so that will actually be against LE. Perhaps 
this chart will help:


HLE6607  OS/390 2.7 LE
HLE6608  OS/390 2.8 LE
HLE6609  OS/390 2.9 LE
HLE7703  OS/390 2.10 LE
HLE7705  z/OS   1.2 LE
HLE7706  z/OS   1.3 LE
HLE7707  z/OS   1.4 LE
HLE7708  z/OS   1.5 LE
HLE7709  z/OS   1.6 LE

So, say you are on z/OS 1.4. You would want this PTF:

R707 PSY UQ91931   UP04/08/19 P F408

and it be for FMID HLE7707.

George


Thanks. That does help.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Need more PTF guidance

2005-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/11/2005
   at 11:47 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

So, how do I select the applicable component level?

The 3 characters after the R are not the actual release number, but
the last 3 characters of the FMID. Check your target zone to see which
function you have installed and order the PTF for that level.

So, how do I select the applicable component level?
I guessed and tried the last, didn't work; then I
tried the R705 because I see I have HLE7705 FMID
(I don't even know if that's the right FMID for
PL/I, but my colleague seemed to think it is).

That's probably an LE function rather than a PL/I function. What's the
FMID on that PTF?
 
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